2012-02-10, 11:07 | Link #141 |
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The fact that the author is making sure that Naruto has his work cut out for him is pretty damned obvious.
He decides to spare Nagato? Well then the previously crazy baby killer won't leave and return to finish off the survivors a week later, no he will rather resuscitate everybody and conveniently commit suicide doing so. Konoha is rulled by Danzou who wants Sasuke dead? Well he will be killed quickly and no Konoha ninja will come close to try and suffer for it. He wants peace? The war will be about all the ninja in the world fighting together (forgetting generations of mutual slaughter after one cheesy speech) against a thousands of clone that nobody will miss. He wants Sasuke back? The guy will somehow never kill any named good guy and suddenly decide he won't touch anyone before he kills Naruto for no discernible reason. And the list goes on for every decision Naruto has ever made. Naruto's choices will always be right and he will never suffers any adverse consequences from his actions. He can have his cake and eat it too, that's the way he rolls. |
2012-02-10, 11:47 | Link #143 | |
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and he did all this despite nagato killing his precious master. it's not something to cast aside like people are trying to say. and the village definitely mourns jiraiya. we don't need to have a funeral scene and people crying in the manga to know this. he was a beloved character, especially to the current hokage, elders, naruto, kakashi and gai. the younger generations didn't know him very well, but the older ones sure did. all this hypothetical storyline talk is pointless. the fact is that naruto and the village did have a reason to hate nagato despite him resurrecting the people he recently killed. let's not forget that he was also the supposed head of akatsuki at that time as well. so here's a hypothetical of my own. lets say orochimaru was still alive and killed half the village. then naruto talked to him, orochimaru was changed and resurrected the people he just killed before he died. are you guys saying that naruto and the village would have absolutely no problem forgetting that orochimaru killed the 3rd hokage? that it would be easy to forgive him since it happened a while ago? that just doesn't make sense... nagato killed jiraiya fairly recently in the story compared to his attack on konoha too. it's not like it was so long ago that people have forgot their feelings for him already |
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2012-02-10, 12:34 | Link #144 |
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Sasuke was walking out of the woods. He is heading to the battlefield. At this point the only place he could cause carnage is against all the divisions moving toward Naruto. Everything else is wrapped up in the war outside of the Kage-Madara fight, which only has a handful of characters present.
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2012-02-10, 14:03 | Link #146 | |
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2012-02-10, 14:53 | Link #147 | |
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Its possible Sasuke will kill someone before he fights Naruto since he may be heading in a different direction to Naruto. |
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2012-02-10, 15:26 | Link #148 |
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obviously I could be wrong, but I still think he's going after the elders. this is the perfect time. they seem to be alone or at least unprotected by konoha's finest. sasuke was completely bloodthirsty to kill danzou (and the other 2 responsible for the massacre/itachi decision) so why would he all of a sudden have a more valuable target? especially when he has the highest chance of fighting them without interference
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2012-02-10, 15:34 | Link #149 | |
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However Sasuke appears to be in a very similar looking place to were Naruto is which suggests he may be close to Naruto, maybe he could fight Hinata's group 1st? they all wanted to fight Sasuke so it would be interesting to see their reaction to meeting him. |
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2012-02-10, 19:42 | Link #150 | |
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Sasuke isn't heading to Konoha to kill the elders. "Carnage comes to the battlefield" certainly doesn't fit with Sasuke then.
Sasuke did say he would kill Naruto first before dealing with Konoha. So heading toward him fits in with the story. Running into Naruto's backup also seems likely since it delays any Sasuke and Naruto confrontation till after the war. Quote:
If Sasuke finally acts on his threats, wipes out thousands of Alliance ninja, kills the K12, and destroys Konoha, then Naruto simply cannot forgive him and walk away. It is one thing to understand one's pain. To understand why they have fallen. That doesn't mean you can justify their actions because of their pain. You cannot allow them to take out their pain on someone else. Kishi clearly has shown that Sasuke and Nagato are and were in the wrong. But he wiped away Nagato's sins against Konoha so Naruto wouldn't have to deal with his decision. And likely never have Sasuke do anything where he cannot be redeemed by Naruto. It would make Naruto a much more compelling and mature character if he were forced to deal with those difficult decisions. But as Hunter said, he will never suffer any adverse consequences from his actions. It is easy to play Jesus when everything falls in place around you. |
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-Matter of fact, so is Karin, for basically the same reason. Though I hold her in higher regard than say Sakura because it only took Karin 1 attempt on her life by Sasuke to make her to make her open her eyes. Quote:
-I believe Danzo wishes to have a few words with you.
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2012-02-11, 12:12 | Link #152 | |
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2012-02-11, 13:11 | Link #153 | |
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I wish the manga focused on Kakashi instead ;_;. Naruto Manga's highpoint was Kakashi Gaiden imo. Thankfully, Naruto himself is rather fun despite being overly cliche. But oh god everybody around him is so bland and boring. As for the chapter, I felt a part of me die despite being a Hinata fan. I don't want her stupid crush to come true, I want her to truly grow and that means growing out of her stupid childish crush. But yeah what gives, I hate NaruSaku pairing even more so I will settle for this I guess. Tobi is getting boring... very boring. He used to be fun, man. Both as the wacky new recruit and as the evil, omniscient villain. But now his place in the plot just seems lost. I hope he gets killed off soon because I can't stand this butchering of his character for much longer. Guy and Kakashi are so much more interesting than Naruto and Sasuke but they are just too far behind now, now that the plot has evolved into nothing but who screams louder shounen shit. I hope we see them do something soon though. As for Sasuke's return bla bla, I really was hoping he wouldn't be brought in yet because I didn't see a place he'd fit in. He isn't actually allied to Tobi and the Alliance don't really need to fight him either because they are irrelevant to his cause. So bringing him in right now feels just like bringing him there for the sake of bringing him into plot and feels forceful to me. I don't hate Sasuke nearly as much as the vocal haters on this thread and elsewhere but geez, Kishimoto Sensei really should reorient his approach to this character. I am looking forward to Kabuto vs Itachi though. Itachi is pretty awesome so it might just be fun. And I am pretty sure next chapter will actually feature Edo Madara vs Kages.
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2012-02-11, 14:02 | Link #154 |
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This what might probably happen to Sasuke:
He will walk out of the forest. He sees a battle and he sees Madara. Then Madara will start talking to SAsuke saying: So you finally reach THAT LEVEL. Speaking in code terms. Second possibility that Sasuke will fight the Konoha cheer squad!
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2012-02-11, 18:24 | Link #155 |
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The only way carnage could happen, and this is especially true for Sasuke, is if the whole "carnage" happens in an illusion or a true rinnegan user returns them to life shortly after their death. The only way Kishimoto would make Sasuke kill someone like Hinata or Sakura is if they are either resurrected or it turns out to be an illusion. The illusion can happen if Tobi uses the gathered demon chakras to make a smaller amount a 10-tails chakra and uses his infinite tsukiyomi on the battlefield. The resurrection can happen only if either Naruto or Sasuke gain the rinnegan power of resurrecting people. If it turns out to be a Naruto vs Sasuke epic battle where Sasuke gains the rinnegan and Naruto converts him to the good side during the battle, then it can happen that with their combined power (Naruto's special chakra and Sasuke's rinnegan) they make a jutsu which resurrects those killed by Sasuke previously. But right now that epic battle can't happen since Naruto is too exhausted.
Also a Sasuke vs Naruto battle at this stage wouldn't be too interesting, i mean we have seen Tobi and Madara with rinnegans and other crazy stuff, epic battles with all 5 kages involved, even if Sasuke has the EMS he can't really make such a good show that would something more than what we have seen. I mean in shonen manga the next battle is usually even better than the previous ones, when involving the main characters. So in order for their battle to be more epic than a 5 kages vs Madara and Tobi+demons vs Naruto+friends both Naruto and Sasuke need one more powerup, i guess for Naruto it will be combining sage mode and kyuubi mode and for Sasuke the awakening of rinnegan. |
2012-02-12, 08:52 | Link #157 | |
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I preferred non rinnegan Tobi since before he was calm, did his plans slowly and he was more careful but now he's in self denial over a few words Naruto said. Tobi should be the 1 who's using words to effect Naruto like a old school villain would but Naruto is the 1 who's getting under Tobi's skin. |
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2012-02-12, 12:37 | Link #158 |
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Konoha 12's thoghts are pathetic, it just show how little kishimoto cares about any character that is not Naruto or Sasuke. What's the point of all these ninja dying? They should just let jesus naruto take care of every single figtht and do what they do best, talk about how wonderful naruto is.
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