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Perfect 10 | 74 | 69.16% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 20 | 18.69% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 7.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 1.87% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.93% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.87% | |
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2007-07-24, 00:21 | Link #401 | |
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Mid-child system is almost entirely magic based with some augmentation using Intelligent deviced. The power of the magi are inborn with their linker cores which is also their main source. This makes them the general Mage-warrior class. Velka user are similar in that their powers are innate. However, reliance on the cartridges and Armed Devices means that magic is to augment their physical abilities. The surge of power from its use also means that there is a need for a dedicated systems manager [read: Unison devices] so that the surge doesn't eventually erode their bodies and kill them. Velka users are warrior first, the magic just gives that extra kick when needed. Inherent Systems takes Unison devices to an entirely different level. It is both their souce of power and weapon, integrated directly into the user. The most machinelike of the 3 systems, I'd guess that there are a development from the Velka system when there are not sufficent numbers for natural born magi. Pure warriors in this sense without the need for magic [hence Subaru's strange affinity with them in her report- she can beat the heck out of a drone without magic]. About Subaru's and Ginga's power then? What is the most likely scenario for ambitious prototype combat system but a hybrid of all 3. When the girl was 'zerking out she successfully employed all 3 systems at one time, literally tearing her weapons and body apart in the process [which is the likely danger]. The Number girls with their specialist system isn't going to have the firepower to face a monster like this alone. The smart thing would have been to cut and run with the sample they have. |
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2007-07-24, 00:28 | Link #402 | ||
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Oh yah the scene where Subaru took out 9 (IX) was awesome. Hahaha it left 9's arm useless while Subaru gets back up and fights.
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2007-07-24, 00:53 | Link #403 | |||
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Their over desire to capture rather than destroyed in Ep12 eventually allowed the Numbers and Lutecia to escape unscathed. Imagine if they just beat Lutecia's face in and knock her out for the storyline, and that Quattro as well. Even Sein might have been had if Vita had decisively and immediately destroyed the ground Sein dove into with Gigant Hammer. So now, with so many lost opportunities, the Numbers, Lutecia and Zest all accumulate together into a well-integrated Combined Arms Team and do their damage. The TSAB's security plan did not even make provision for enemy capabilities like Deep Diver - they should have been slotting in Forcefields into the floors to hinder that mode of movement. Man, Hayate has a lot to answer for. |
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2007-07-24, 01:01 | Link #404 |
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Brilliant, my question on why do people trust Jail is met with the reply of 'Just because other people don't'. and "Well, I don't really..."
Just brilliant. And I can't believe I have been asked as well about what Jail had done to deserve being called a criminal, perhaps you have skipped the first few episodes and jump straight here? @arkhangelsk When I said get rid of, I don't mean just losing their jobs. I mean literally executed. I don't know what backward world you grew up in, but that is considered immoral. And they weren't at war to begin with, Jail had made that first move without warning. You keep saying rules of war rules of war, WHEN THE HECK WERE THEY AT WAR BEFORE THAT?!
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2007-07-24, 01:02 | Link #405 |
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Hmm it got swallowed up by the arguments. 0_0 Sorry don't mind me, I've been following this hot debate and I find that there's nothing much left to insert as everyone is talking about their points and countering to no end here... SKANE! WE NEED YOU!!!
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2007-07-24, 01:03 | Link #406 | |
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2007-07-24, 01:08 | Link #407 | |
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True, Hayate will have to answer a lot of questions including a her squad. Anyway the next two or more episodes won't be as amazing but at least the plot is speeding up into pace.
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2007-07-24, 01:10 | Link #408 |
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Subaru's IS seems to be somewhat of an literal EXPORUSION upon knuckle impact. I think Thisguy mentioned destruction-upon-contact.
Since it didn't really shatter Nove's arm into pieces nor instantly break Cinque's shield, it's probably not extremely powerful. It's only dangerous for Nove and Uendi since Subaru's IS is purely close combat specialized...and they too are close combat Numbers. Even Cinque is a very-close midrange combat Number, which puts her in danger. So, it's pretty much a situation of the IS type Subaru is using being extreme disadvantage towards close combat types. If Otto was there as well... Subaru's probably dead since she was being extremely berserk-ish.
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2007-07-24, 01:14 | Link #409 | |
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2007-07-24, 01:16 | Link #410 | |
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I don't know what exactly turned him into a criminal, what other choices he could've made etc. His past is a mystery. All we have is TSAB records of his supposedly vile deeds (though did he hurt anybody directly? I don't recall him called murderer as well). It depends on your point of view. You consider Scaglietti a terrorist and a criminal. Others could consider him a revolutionary. And I don't need to officially declare a war to act according to its rules. |
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2007-07-24, 01:24 | Link #411 | ||
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Lol, Skane we need you. This isn't a "counter" but with this kind of debate it's alright as long as we don't get frustrated and start hating each other. Anyway hmmm maybe we should cool down a bit and get a drink while were at it.
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2007-07-24, 01:27 | Link #412 | |
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Always felt Subaru was the odd one out in terms of how she fights. She is the least magic dependent, in fact, has probably the least magical ability out of the rookie crew save for her hardened shields. Her magic and abilities are probably correct as B+ rank, a normal mage should be able to beat her on this alone. Unfortunately, a rampaging amazon with power skates and the strenght to effortlessly throw several hundred pounds of metal across a room is another matter entirely. Now we all know why this is so. She's the daughter of the Terminator |
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Most importantly, his own troops weren't 100% sure if Vivio was the "material" they were seeking in ep12. "IF that material is the right one..." If Scaglietti made her, you'd expect him to know, yes? Even if he made several, he ought to be able to tell if this was the one by now. Quote:
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2007-07-24, 01:33 | Link #414 | |
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Edit at 11:56pm -8 GMT: Woah it has calmed down. Awesome.
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2007-07-24, 02:22 | Link #416 | |
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2007-07-24, 02:35 | Link #417 | |
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Somewhat disappointed that the Guntank girl [Teana] wasn't there as support when Subaru went berserk. Suppose it can't be helped when her priority is to rearm the captains while the heavy tanks the drones. Her anti-missile skills would have helped against the Numbers. Ordinarily Teana and Subaru are paired when attacking and it wasn't possible here. Erio on the other hand should be told off when he wakes for abandoning Caro and attacking a superior enemy position. Sure he has a new toy, but Fred the Flying fortress isn't exactly invulnurable or immune to bind spells. |
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2007-07-24, 02:48 | Link #418 |
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Ok as much as I love Subaru, I wonder what "perverted yuri ecchi" scenes are going to be shown. If its going to be the same level as Subaru groping Teana, thats ok. If it's going to be Strawberry panic yuri ecchi then its gone too far.
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2007-07-24, 02:50 | Link #419 |
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Ok this i kinda off topic but kinda not I have been gone for a while so if this has been covered then I'm sorry ><
Ok I just watched ep 13 and 14 and OMG it is all over the place. There are hints scattered everywhere the Subaru and Ginga are "different". Earlier we where talking about if Teana know that Subaru is a cyborg, the answer if have discovered is Yes. as talked about inep 13 while Tea and Subaru are doing reports. (around 13:20) through out these two eps it is all over the place that a lot of people know about Subare and Ginga. near the end of ep14 while Subaru, Caro, and Erio are eating at the end when they are talking about mothers and stuff Subaru thinks to her self "a mother , huh?" ya i gust wanted to point some of this out if it had not been already ^^ if it has then I apologize. >< |
2007-07-24, 03:00 | Link #420 | |
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And the issue isn't magic. Mages are needles in haystacks to begin with, more so exceptional ones. So far, the Numbers are clearly NOT using magic as their source to their abilities and are not referred to as Artificial Mages, and it may imply that regular people can become Number-types, or at least weak mages can be boosted to higher levels relatively safely as a cyborg, if they so wishes. And some Numbers are exceptional. When 2 good ones can relatively match an S+ level mage who's like one in thousands, it speaks volumes. And must we drag Scaglietti into issues where it involves entrusting worlds? The issue isn't whether or not we can trust him, but whether or not there is merit in advancing the science which while is unethical, brings about different benefits when looked in different points of view. Like Project F which for all its worth, is kinda like a pseudo-resurrection of the dead, or even replication of the living. It may be "wrong", but when shit really comes down to us, people wish "A" or "B" never died, or could be reborn, even if it's technically not the same person. Or even non-magic human weaponry that can be trained within short periods of time to curb increasing crimes, and the need for child mages reduces with that in mind. Jail may not have very very very nice intentions, but since he sells them, the buyers can use it to good intentions. Plus if Subaru is any indication, it's not as if becoming Sentoukijins mean that they can't live a normal life, grow up like normal children, enjoy eating, and stuff. Heck, if Nakajima mama was a one, giving birth!
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