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Perfect 10 | 74 | 69.16% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 20 | 18.69% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 7.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 1.87% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.93% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.87% | |
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2007-07-24, 07:50 | Link #461 | |
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*Toss the torch* Catch.
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2007-07-24, 07:52 | Link #462 | |
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There's a lot of speculations left and right since we know nothing about his personal plans (( Relics/Vessel/King )), but from what is already layed out, we're discussing about it. It's easy to simply say "OMG HE IZ EBIL! He treats lives like toys, etc!" but where's the fun in that? It's all about looking beyond his portrayed "evil facade" and digesting the possible "neutralities" of what he's doing. It's easy to just think that Precia's just a crazy bitch who can't see what's in front of her and being delusional, but it's not irrational to see why she became what she became either. And since my moonspeak sucks, there'll be errors, but this is about it. Fate: Where the hell is Scaglietti? Why did he ignite this incident? Tre: If you really wish to know, we’ll be willing to indulge it with you anytime. Sette: Of course, that is only if you’re willing to cooperate and join us. Fate: He is a criminal! And also of the worst kind! Tre: Please don’t say such sad things. The Doctor, to you and that boy (( Elio )) is like your birth-father after all. Fate: *angry face* Sette: Your lives, because of the Doctor that planned and created the baseline for Project F, which is why… Fate: SHUT UP! Sette: Looks like it can’t be helped… We’ll meet again. At that time, hopefully everything can be explained properly… Tre: Ah..and as you had already noticed… yes…you…cannot defeat us. Fate: Ceh! Oh, and they were being very polite in their tone and speech with Fate, while Fate was all angry!STFU on them. Thisguy, help plz with clarification and error check. :3
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2007-07-24, 07:55 | Link #463 | |
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2007-07-24, 08:03 | Link #464 | |
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2007-07-24, 08:08 | Link #465 |
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Perhaps what the doctor did was help individuals with injuries or disabilities a second chance at life with the cybernetic enhancements whereas they could have remained disabled or helpless the rest of their lives, albeit being a test experiment. Maybe that's why they seem to maintain some form of loyalty towards him.
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2007-07-24, 08:09 | Link #466 | |
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2007-07-24, 08:10 | Link #467 | |
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and thanks for the conversation translation between Fate, Tres and Sette. They were being nice at saying it, but at the same time, I guess Fate took it as a taunt to her if she's willing to join them because of Scaglietti being the baseline of Project F and him being the creator of Fate and Erio. Well, looks like after this episode, we'll get some information filled episodes again until the final battle starts...theres only 9 episodes left and how this will end is still very very vague. Anyways, Lutecia now has Vivio, now what does she have do with relics and everything thats been going on... The future of Ginga, whether she holds something important as being a TYPE-0 or will she get brainwashed and go against TSAB in the next battle. |
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2007-07-24, 08:15 | Link #469 |
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Forgot to add something to my last post about the numbers. The forwards kicked Wendy's and Nuove's butts bigtime, and the forward are about A+. Also, Cinque requested backup to fight Ginga, cause Ginga was too powerfull for her.
PS: Just noticed, but Agito can be REALLY cute. Her jumping up and down yelling "Danna, this is not the time to praise her!!" was UBER cute |
2007-07-24, 08:31 | Link #470 | |
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for his character he is just going for his own goals...but like what you said about precia who is disillusioned so is Dr Spaghetti (with maybe a bit more intelligence than precia but what he is doing is effectively the same but using a more thought out plan)...he thinks what he is doing is right and maybe so from an advancement point of view...but his actions are no doubt twisted and evil...no merits whatsoever even if it means killing of that general ass hole on the ground...in the TSAB is corrupt then what Dr spaghetti is doing is no way better (and from my point of view even worse)..."violence cannot be solved with more violence"
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2007-07-24, 08:32 | Link #471 | |
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Scaglietti have been giving me Precia vibs for a while now, While there may be a twist but I see it as slim to none, so I'm quite happy to see him bites the dust there. Team Lutecia is however a completly different matter and I could see them go on Ace's side for whatever reason for the final battle. |
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2007-07-24, 08:33 | Link #472 | |
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Looking at Subaru, I'd say the girl would be a good study on how to increase the power output of the Numbers. Maybe how to successfully integrate high level cyborg parts into an already formidable mage. |
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2007-07-24, 09:02 | Link #475 | |
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There's no way that Jail, or anyone can conquer and defeat RF6/GC without injuries. The fact that he mostly (( I'm thinking there'll probably be several accidental deaths or 50, like near explosions, or debris hitting the head, or consumed by fire )) did so while holding back the killer force is already something. Meh, it's just an anime-excuse for RF6 to lose rationally without killing off Carim, Hayate, Regius, Shamal, Zafira, Vice, Griffith, etc anyway. Well, there's like a 99% chance Jail will give her new hands. Whether or not she'll be treated "well", well...that depends, but I'm seriously hoping they don't pull the brainwashing card, and cook up a decent excuse for her to really join Scaglietti for real. For 30 times teh drama. And Jail's a bad guy. He does what he wants, the way he wants it. Vivio is clearly VERY important to his unknown plans, since it was a primary objective alongside bloodless victory, and since there's no way TSAB will just "hand her over", he resorts to kidnapping. Simple as that. That's the thing of being a villain. Regardless of good or bad reason, they mostly screw morals and ethics in the long run.
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Ginga: NOOOOOOOOOO~! But we all now how that went...
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Why is that? Justify this position. They were in the positions of the highest respect and responsibility. That the consequences for failing such responsibilities are equally great should be a given. Quote:
You can take many, many points in the past. You can start from Ep12 when all the numbers showed up and they tried to blast the helicopter out of the sky and range all the way back to Ginga's mom. Further, even if I grant that Ep16 was the start of the war, a sneak attack is about the extent of the Doctor's crime. Not a very big one in terms of military strategy. Quote:
Ethical problems are not only transient in time, but are left unstated. If they are anything similar to the kinds of objections held to cloning currently (the only reference we have to go on), I'm sorry to say IMO those don't hold much water. You are going in the wrong direction. Try: The Inherent Skills are matching at least some of the abilities of even top ranked (ultra-rare) mages. This offers hope to the vast majority of people who aren't top-ranked mages (for example, the 95% below AAA ranks). This is potentially an equalizer equivalent to the Colt revolver! Definitely something worth pursuing. Quote:
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2) A problem with Stalin, at the beginning, is that he doesn't really know "competent" from "incompetent", and so he goes for killing the ones who lose. Considering the poor state of the army, it wouldn't have mattered whether he was executing generals for failure or not. Later, he got some clues that sometimes losing is not 100% correlated to incompetence, and so he won. Quote:
2) The talent inside a headquarters is known as the General Staff. It is generally made of the brighter half of the military, and has years of experience and specific knowledge with the problems of controlling the entire force. A hastily assembled replacement staff simply cannot match that efficiency. 3) There's a reason why second in commands are not in command yet. It is a backup scheme, but assuming they've been doing promotions right, substitutions of multiple commanders with their deputies will cause a significant drop in the ability of the command staff. Quote:
It is reasonable to expect people that can do S-power shoots won't die lightly. There's little reason to hold back until they are unconscious, bleeding, and missing arms. Quote:
She can hide under the ground. That's not the same as the idea that she is resillent to all normal attacks. Or Vita can try Flameslag (or whatever was the trick against Nanoha in Ep9 Nanoha A - melting the ground Sein is hiding in will certainly at least annoy her. Quote:
2) Hayate made no improvements on her own base either. I don't see any improvements to deal with for example Heavy Barrel's S-level blasts. If they had something like that they might have held out better. For that matter, she should have left one of the aces there, as others have suggested. It is her own responsibility her HQ got flattened. Quote:
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All Voltaire did was bust some drones. No decisive combat with Numbers. How did you even guess his superiority? Why are you so confident of Subaru. By the time she was in a position to destroy Cinque, she was half destroyed herself. Had Cinque retreated actively under cover of her yellow shield to buy distance (a tactical error on her part, or a limitation, or a failure to understand a berserk target because this is her time with one?), she would have bought time for an additional attack that may well have disabled Subaru completely before she can finish closing. If she wasn't in berserk mode and thus not feeling any pain, she should have gone down about 2 Rumble Detonators ago. Quote:
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2007-07-24, 09:56 | Link #479 | |
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She kinda asked for it, it's possible that they asked her nicely but she refused. And Vivio hardly can decide what's best by herself at her age anyway. As soon as I know why Doc needs Vivio I'll be able to say if her abducting was worth it. |
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