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marvelB · 2015-10-15, 03:09

^In regards to those spoilers:

Spoiler for 63:

And in other news..... last week we get the results of Japan's popularity poll, so for this week how about we take a gander at the USA Jump's results?

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^Huh, quite some differences from Japan's results! Interestingly, Bakugou outranks Todoroki here. And we even have the inclusion of Stain and Gran Torino! I'm rather amused that Mineta is roughly around the same place as he was in Japan's poll, though. Well, I'll definitely be looking forward to the next poll (whatever region it is) whenever it comes along....

Somethindarker · 2015-10-15, 04:11

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^In regards to those spoilers:

Spoiler for 63:

And in other news..... last week we get the results of Japan's popularity poll, so for this week how about we take a gander at the USA Jump's results?

Spoiler for US poll:

^Huh, quite some differences from Japan's results! Interestingly, Bakugou outranks Todoroki here. And we even have the inclusion of Stain and Gran Torino! I'm rather amused that Mineta is roughly around the same place as he was in Japan's poll, though. Well, I'll definitely be looking forward to the next poll (whatever region it is) whenever it comes along....

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LevelSeven · 2015-10-15, 09:44

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kacchans attack is actually #2 right after allmights 100% punch in ch.1 if it comes to destructive "one-shot" power attacks (from the feats shown until now), i really wonder how much strength a attack needs to have in order to injure him critically...
this is really suprising, i expected allmight to evade most of the attack but still be injured after being partially hit :/

doesnt his make the OFA user way to OP?
if the mangaka wants to keep the story "balanced" with deku at the top (after mastering OFA) and his friends close to him than the friends will need a HUGH powerup :/ i fear this will turn into something similar as naruto or bleach

one is the scenario where the MC(or MCs) will become so super-OP alongside the villian that the friends of said MC are turning into fodder and useless sidechars who only manage to do something thanks to plot :/
the other one is the scenario where the MC and his friends lvl up alongside each other (of course the villians become strogner too) but the MC still has a "edge" over the others, either way, it feels forced and "unreal" to give so many chars so much power in the same short time which the "special"-MC needs for a power up

i hope not a single of them happens and BNHA goes into the one piece direction: having the MC and friends powerful but still giving them room to grow with training and time, furthermore, neither of them should become OP and still need help from outsiders/comrades/others in order to beat the enemy (like with doflamingo) except for the ones where the villians are actually more of less fodder themselfes (like hody jones)

Xacual · 2015-10-15, 15:02

I don't really see how it's a bad thing for Deku to become the strongest, he's been set up for that ever since becoming the next OFA user. Once he reaches his peak he'll be even stronger than the current All Might at his prime.

LevelSeven · 2015-10-15, 15:55

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I don't really see how it's a bad thing for Deku to become the strongest, he's been set up for that ever since becoming the next OFA user. Once he reaches his peak he'll be even stronger than the current All Might at his prime.

It is not bad that he becomes the strongest but it should be balanced unlike in narutos and bleachs scenarios :/

Imagine how everyone else becomes fodder and wont be able to do anything against the main villian except for deku

i would like it to stay as balanced as now, BNHA never had unbreakable powerlvls

FateAnomaly · 2015-10-15, 20:58

As deku gets stronger i am sure the others will get stronger as well.

marvelB · 2015-10-15, 22:33

Hey, so the volume 5 omake got translated! IMO, the most interesting info was that Horikoshi originally planned for Endeavor to be a teacher. What interests me about this is that I can actually still see this idea being possible. Say that one of the current teachers is forced to take a leave of absence due to whatever circumstances (which is very much possible for All Might), and Endeavor volunteers to act as a substitute. Heck, I can already see the shock on Todoroki's face when he sees his pops walking in the classroom....

In other news, the Chinese scans for the new chapter are out:

Spoiler for 63:

Darius Drake · 2015-10-16, 01:07

@ LevelSeven: I disagree with you. You seem to be assuming that everyone we've seen is WEAK. That's wrong, they're inexperienced, not weak.

Momo's creation power's seem like they could create anything, so long as she understands it. Think about what would happen if she knew how to create some of the Hero Boosting Equipment! And that's ignoring the fact that she could make grenades as strong as the explosion shown in the spoilers!

Todoroki's Icy Flame power has NOT been used to it's fullest, or even it's half-way point. The Flame alone should come close to father's level. And imagine if both Fire and Ice were combined! And that's ignoring what we've seen he can do with the ice.

Bakugou's shown us that his explosions can be useful for both transport and combat, depending on use. He has also shown significant physical power. Imagine if he actually harnessed all that strength into a refined fighting style, instead of his current wild one.

In other words, if everyone's OP, nobody is. You're judging early because you can see the optimal end result of one character, and not all of them.

Sixth · 2015-10-16, 01:19

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I don't really see how it's a bad thing for Deku to become the strongest, he's been set up for that ever since becoming the next OFA user. Once he reaches his peak he'll be even stronger than the current All Might at his prime.

It would be weird if Deku didn't ended up as the strongest when he got the most strongest quirk in the world.

Somethindarker · 2015-10-16, 01:21

@levelseven Haven't forgotten about your post, I've just been busy lately.

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@ LevelSeven: I disagree with you. You seem to be assuming that everyone we've seen is WEAK. That's wrong, they're inexperienced, not weak.

Momo's creation power's seem like they could create anything, so long as she understands it. Think about what would happen if she knew how to create some of the Hero Boosting Equipment! And that's ignoring the fact that she could make grenades as strong as the explosion shown in the spoilers!

Todoroki's Icy Flame power has NOT been used to it's fullest, or even it's half-way point. The Flame alone should come close to father's level. And imagine if both Fire and Ice were combined! And that's ignoring what we've seen he can do with the ice.

Bakugou's shown us that his explosions can be useful for both transport and combat, depending on use. He has also shown significant physical power. Imagine if he actually harnessed all that strength into a refined fighting style, instead of his current wild one.

In other words, if everyone's OP, nobody is. You're judging early because you can see the optimal end result of one character, and not all of them.

What Momo created was flashbangs actually, I think it's a given that all the students are in different stages of growth since they're students and the teachers have been repeating over and over the weaknesses of the class. Todoroki relies on his quirk too much, Baku is a hothead who should focus on refining his ability and teamwork, Momo is booksmart but has very little combat experience etc; What he meant to say was that he doesn't want Deku to overshadow his peers as much as All Might does his, personally with guys like Todoroki, Bakugou, Iida and Tokoyami around I doubt OfA is gonna be enough to keep Deku at the top.

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It would be weird if Deku didn't ended up as the strongest when he got the most strongest quirk in the world.

I don't think OfA is gonna dominate like it used too there are a lot of strong kids in his class so Deku's got his work cut out for him.

LevelSeven · 2015-10-16, 04:31

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@ LevelSeven: I disagree with you. You seem to be assuming that everyone we've seen is WEAK. That's wrong, they're inexperienced, not weak.

i see them as weak compared to the feats allmight showed via OFA...
i know that deku will also become #1, nothing wrong, it wouldnt make sense otherwise but did you see kacchan loaded explosion-blast?
it hit a critically injured allmight who gave away most of OFA-power to deku from point black directly and what was the damage?
he bleeded a bit (which can also be the result of the attack causing his injury to get a bit worse and letting him bleed again)... so, it is a damage of little to nothing,
and except for allmights 100%-punch in ch.1 kacchans blast was the second most destructive attack seen so far,
if that is only giving allmight that much damage how strong will deku become?

it wont be possible to let deku stay at the edge but still balanced with the others without causing their powers to undergo some kind of mutation and take away most of their limits (which is akin to: plot forced power up aka bleach-style :/ )

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Momo's creation power's seem like they could create anything, so long as she understands it. Think about what would happen if she knew how to create some of the Hero Boosting Equipment! And that's ignoring the fact that she could make grenades as strong as the explosion shown in the spoilers!

this is true, i already mentioned it in this forum or somewhere else but momos powers can become a REALLY dangerous thing, as far as my limited knowledge goes uran or plotonium arent living things (which is the only thing that she cant create), if so, she could create a nuke whenever and whereever she wants, creating ultra-modern weapons in half a minute or less (like laserbeams or portable railguns etc),
if a gun-fanatic would have this quirck it is easy to imagine how much of a posible threat he could become

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Todoroki's Icy Flame power has NOT been used to it's fullest, or even it's half-way point. The Flame alone should come close to father's level. And imagine if both Fire and Ice were combined! And that's ignoring what we've seen he can do with the ice.

his ice powers are shown at the highest point, his fire powers are equal (to balance him out), but this would still not make him really that powerful :/
furthermore, his fire shouldnt be on his fathers lvl, afterall the ice-side isnt enhancing his fire-side but weakening it (which is also the reason why he can spam his powers since they are equalling each other out)...
for the bolded part: wouldnt the result be steam or water?

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Bakugou's shown us that his explosions can be useful for both transport and combat, depending on use. He has also shown significant physical power. Imagine if he actually harnessed all that strength into a refined fighting style, instead of his current wild one.

his explosions upper limit is shown, even his blast did not do anything...
lets say as adult he becomes 3 times as strong, i still dont see him being any closer to even current allmight-lvl (which is a near dead man who is losing his powers slowly but steadily)...

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In other words, if everyone's OP, nobody is. You're judging early because you can see the optimal end result of one character, and not all of them.

i tried to see it, except for momo (who has her merits too since her speed is still human which means that fast chars like stain could easily evade her attacks) there are noone else that could balance with 100%-OFA-deku, im not saing they need to be equal or stronger but at around 99.9% of his strength in order to not make this like naruto...
for the bolded part: yeah, and i fear that the mangaka will go bleachs roat where he allows not only the MC but everyone else to enhance in strength way to fast only so that the MC doesnt look impossibly broken (and to balance the sides out)... it is easy to imagine this happening in BNHA too...

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As deku gets stronger i am sure the others will get stronger as well.

they will but could they come even close to 100%-OFA-deku without letting it look like "the author forced them for the sake of balance"? this is how i fear the story could turn into...

if allmight would have been injured while evading 95% of the attack, than i would be more than happy, this means that kacchans strongest attack can heavily injure or kill a (maybe) 40%-OFA-allmight, and if kacchan becomes a adult and gains more strength he could still be comparable to 100%-OFA-deku (the same for others), but the gap seems awfully big which only something "forced by the mangaka" could overcome :/

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@levelseven Haven't forgotten about your post, I've just been busy lately.

i thought that we already stopped? i actually completly forgot about the topic of our discussion

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What he meant to say was that he doesn't want Deku to overshadow his peers as much as All Might does his, personally with guys like Todoroki, Bakugou, Iida and Tokoyami around I doubt OfA is gonna be enough to keep Deku at the top.

you saw how much kacchan strongest blast (and his powers are specialized in destruction) injured allmight right? and this allmight is FAR from being at 100%, and deku would become even stronger than 100%-allmight... OFA alone is horribly overpowered in comparison with anyone elses quirck except AFO...

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I don't think OfA is gonna dominate like it used too there are a lot of strong kids in his class so Deku's got his work cut out for him.

if possible can you give me a scenario where kacchan, todo, shadow-guy, gravity-girl, speed-boy etc reach current allmights lvl (which is maybe only 40-50% of full 100% (and deku will be like +20% more powerful than 100%-allmight)) without letting it look like a horrible forced power up like in bleach? and not to forget, this would only be half or even less than half of dekus future powers... unfortunatly i cant imagine a scenario in which that happens... OR deku gets injured critically too and will be severally limited in OFA usage, which will allow the other chars on the hero side to still be around adult-dekus lvl :/

Somethindarker · 2015-10-16, 06:19

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i see them as weak compared to the feats allmight showed via OFA...
i know that deku will also become #1, nothing wrong, it wouldnt make sense otherwise but did you see kacchan loaded explosion-blast?
it hit a critically injured allmight who gave away most of OFA-power to deku from point black directly and what was the damage?
he bleeded a bit (which can also be the result of the attack causing his injury to get a bit worse and letting him bleed again)... so, it is a damage of little to nothing,
and except for allmights 100%-punch in ch.1 kacchans blast was the second most destructive attack seen so far,
if that is only giving allmight that much damage how strong will deku become?

I agree with you for the most part but you gotta understand we haven't seen the full extent on, say, Endeavor's quirk or what Bakugou's upper limit actually is. They're just kids still who are finally concentrating on learning their quirks as far as we know the sky's the limit for some of them. Quirks are bodily functions so if you train muscles they grow bigger and stronger, you change your diet and your body becomes healthier do brain teasers and your mind becomes smarter.

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this is true, i already mentioned it in this forum or somewhere else but momos powers can become a REALLY dangerous thing, as far as my limited knowledge goes uran or plotonium arent living things (which is the only thing that she cant create), if so, she could create a nuke whenever and whereever she wants, creating ultra-modern weapons in half a minute or less (like laserbeams or portable railguns etc),
if a gun-fanatic would have this quirck it is easy to imagine how much of a posible threat he could become

Eeehhh I'm still a little iffy on if Momo can actually create full on guns, I'm completely open to the idea but I gotta see her do it first. Creating a makeshift canon or flashbang is one thing but creating a gun or assault rifle is another since the level of detail, material composition and chemicals required to create them is on a whole other level. Don't know much about nukes or lasers but again as soon as she creates something on the same level as guns or bombs then I'll change my mind.

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his ice powers are shown at the highest point, his fire powers are equal (to balance him out), but this would still not make him really that powerful :/
furthermore, his fire shouldnt be on his fathers lvl, afterall the ice-side isnt enhancing his fire-side but weakening it (which is also the reason why he can spam his powers since they are equalling each other out)...
for the bolded part: wouldnt the result be steam or water?

I'm no expert on thermodynamics or meteorology but if Todo can fine tune his ability he could straight up create hurricanes, tornadoes, thunderstorms lightening and create plasma. So yea if the author wanted to Todoroki could basically become a god.

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his explosions upper limit is shown, even his blast did not do anything...
lets say as adult he becomes 3 times as strong, i still dont see him being any closer to even current allmight-lvl (which is a near dead man who is losing his powers slowly but steadily)...

He's still a kid though so we don't know what his ceiling will actually be and raw power isn't everything it's the whole point of this arc so Bakugou can learn to use teamwork, also judging by what normal human ability truly is ie; Stain level of physical ability(if he isn't enhanced physically) then Bakugou quirk+Stain level of combat ability he will be a pretty terrifying opponent.

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i tried to see it, except for momo (who has her merits too since her speed is still human which means that fast chars like stain could easily evade her attacks) there are noone else that could balance with 100%-OFA-deku, im not saing they need to be equal or stronger but at around 99.9% of his strength in order to not make this like naruto...
for the bolded part: yeah, and i fear that the mangaka will go bleachs roat where he allows not only the MC but everyone else to enhance in strength way to fast only so that the MC doesnt look impossibly broken (and to balance the sides out)... it is easy to imagine this happening in BNHA too...they will but could they come even close to 100%-OFA-deku without letting it look like "the author forced them for the sake of balance"? this is how i fear the story could turn into...

if allmight would have been injured while evading 95% of the attack, than i would be more than happy, this means that kacchans strongest attack can heavily injure or kill a (maybe) 40%-OFA-allmight, and if kacchan becomes a adult and gains more strength he could still be comparable to 100%-OFA-deku (the same for others), but the gap seems awfully big which only something "forced by the mangaka" could overcome :/

We still have to wait and see how the story pans out hopefully the manga is closer to One Piece than Naruto or Bleach when it comes to secondary characters.

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i thought that we already stopped? i actually completly forgot about the topic of our discussion

Yea the discussion was pretty much over and we both were just sticking to our opinions, good talk though.

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if possible can you give me a scenario where kacchan, todo, shadow-guy, gravity-girl, speed-boy etc reach current allmights lvl (which is maybe only 40-50% of full 100% (and deku will be like +20% more powerful than 100%-allmight)) without letting it look like a horrible forced power up like in bleach? and not to forget, this would only be half or even less than half of dekus future powers... unfortunatly i cant imagine a scenario in which that happens... OR deku gets injured critically too and will be severally limited in OFA usage, which will allow the other chars on the hero side to still be around adult-dekus lvl :/

Bakugou- Stain level of combat ability, changing his diet to add power and volume to his explosions.
Todoroki- Basically Storm from X-Men mixed with Batman/Stain levels of combat prowess.
Tokoyami- At night will probably be pretty much invincible during the day maybe he sticks to alleys or indoors with the lights out to have maximum shadow power, like a ninja using surprise tactics and overwhelming the enemy before they have a chance to mount an attack.
Uraraka- Being able to basically throw cars or buildings at you and making the ground beneath you float so you never have good bearings in a fight. Not to mention once she touches you you're pretty much helpless.
Iida- He "supes" up his engines so his Recipro's last longer and are faster, his speed is already enough that professional heroes can't even follow his movements.
Shinsou- Pretty much is self explanatory he's OP as fuck if he fights someone who doesn't know about his quirk.

Personally though what I'm thinking the author is gonna do is nerf OfA so Deku only has, say, 50-70% of it. For some reason I'm thinking it's gonna be a group of people forming a "Justice League" instead of a solo act like All Might has done.

Darius Drake · 2015-10-16, 06:20

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What Momo created was flashbangs actually, I think it's a given that all the students are in different stages of growth since they're students and the teachers have been repeating over and over the weaknesses of the class. Todoroki relies on his quirk too much, Baku is a hothead who should focus on refining his ability and teamwork, Momo is booksmart but has very little combat experience etc; What he meant to say was that he doesn't want Deku to overshadow his peers as much as All Might does his, personally with guys like Todoroki, Bakugou, Iida and Tokoyami around I doubt OfA is gonna be enough to keep Deku at the top.

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@ LevelSeven: You're making assumptions. I don't think that we've seen the max of any of the students. Actually, I can outright state that I seriously doubt that we're going to be ABLE to see the max of any of the students while they're, well, STUDENTS. Why? Because Quirks are a function of the user's body in this, and the human body continues to grow and change during puberty. Among the changes that happen during this time, one of them is the increase in the limitations of our muscles without doing permanent harm to ourselves. I feel that it is reasonable to believe that the same happens with quirks, the maximum potential control and power you can generate with them increases as you go through puberty, slowing down around age 20, and eventually stopping in your early 20's.

My problem with what you're saying is that you're comparing what you have decided is the student's quirk's maximum, based purely on what you've seen the students do, against the potential of the "Greatest Hero Known", or what you see as a portion of Deku's maximum. This is a major problem in my mind, because none of the students are anywhere NEAR their halfway point at the moment.

Even ignoring the limitation's they've placed on themselves (Momo's lack of physical confidence, Todoroki's stationary fighting style, Bakugou's counter-productive pride, as examples), they've mostly shown us their quirk's current "power-level". We haven't seen anything like subtle usage of their quirks. The closest was actually when Todoroki used his ice powers to block the mufflers during the tournament. But I don't see that as subtle usage. Skilled and well controlled use, yes, but not subtle.

What do I expect/hope to see in the future? I'll limit it to Todoroki and Bakugou, since we know them a bit better (and Deku has the free upgrades of "You can now use +5% or 10%").

I expect Todoroki to start putting ice on the bottom of his shoes to allow him to move around more easily, and to start getting into positions where Area Of Effect Attack isn't succeeding for him any more. We've seen this start with Stain. Due to this, he would start to develop a more fluid, movement based style, where he attempts to control his opponent with fire and ice, so to push them into a trap. I also expect him to start focusing his fire and ice powers into such a form that they're stronger than they are spread out, and maybe get an upgrade to his suit to protect him from injury from wielding weapons made out of his concentrated fire and ice.

I expect Bakugou to become more of a mixed range fighter. At the moment, he's a powerful close-combat fighter, but we haven't seen him do anything at any other range. His quirk can turn trash and rubble into weapons, so I expect him to start doing that so to make it that he can fight even while a distance away from his opponents. I see him using his quirk as a method of movement LESS often, as his body grows, changes, and he get's to Stain's level of Physical Fitness. I'm not saying that he won't fight close-range anymore, however. I just believe that he'll start to fight outside his OPPONENT'S comfort zone (close combat for ranged fighters, ranged for close-combat).

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@ Something Darker's Predicitons: Nice, but I disagree with Todoroki's. I doubt that he'll get to the point where he's able to become an imitation X-Men's Storm. Mostly because I doubt he'd have that level of control after combining it. I do like your Plasma Power idea, however. Personally, I was also thinking that he could do "steam explosions". I also doubt that he would be able to prevent himself from being struck by his own storm-cloud created lightening.

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Wandering Soul · 2015-10-16, 16:10

That was a nice chapter for Momo's character and Todoroki learned that no matter how competent he is, it would be in his best interest to hear out his teammates plans from time to time.

~Yami~ · 2015-10-16, 16:53

let my ships sailed
I give my blessing to Deku X Kacchan and Todoroki X Yaoyoruzu

fun combination fight so far

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marvelB · 2015-10-16, 19:01

Great chapter! Like I said in the spoiler, I really enjoy seeing Momo get some development. Now, I eagerly await when the author gives more screentime to frog girl and grape boy....

Also, about Momo's power: I noticed that nukes were mentioned, and it occurred to me..... Bakugou's gonna be even more butthurt if Momo manages to make one of those babies before he's capable of creating nuke-level explosions of his own!

ranchan13 · 2015-10-16, 19:11

I'm just happy that in the American Poll, my beloved Frog Girl ranked #2

FateAnomaly · 2015-10-16, 21:06

Momo doesn't have resistance against the bombs she create so she will die if she make a nuke.

Darius Drake · 2015-10-16, 21:07

@ LevelSeven: Bakugou's actually already shown us how he could become a ranged fighter. He just needs to turn trash into projectiles, aka, use his quirk as a propellant, not a direct weapon.

As for getting the characters to the same level of power as All Might's/Deku's true 100%, that's a bit trickier, for a few reasons.
- 1. We don't know what All Might's or Deku's true 100% is.
- 2. We don't know how All Might is affected by the power loss, or what, specifically, is limiting him. AKA, we don't know how much of the loss is due to his injury, how much is due to the transfer to deku, and how much is due to both these things amplifying each other. This is important, because it's actually relates to the reason you've brought up how OP All Might seems. If All Might's currently received a 10% or 20% reduction, based purely on his direct power transfer, then the defensive part of the power boost may only be 10% or 20% below his max.
- 3. We don't know Endeavour's true power, or how he fights when backed into a corner. Nor do we know about the "power level" of the remaining top 5, nor what their quirks are. THIS is something I consider vital information. These are people considered to be near All Might's level. How they fight, how they react to things like hostage situations, how they trap their opponents, this is VITAL knowledge if we are to come up with ways that you can be strong without just making things up out of nothing.

And, no, I don't consider All Might's "In my heyday, it would have taken 5 punches, but I just threw 300" comment while fighting Nomu to be overly important comparison. Especially since I don't see much/any evidence that he's telling the truth.

So, instead of making up something I won't get you to change your mind on I'm going to explain "Subtle Use". Mostly because I want to know how Endeavour fights strong opponents, or in hostage situations, before I try to answer.

My idea of "Subtle" here is of a more of a refined and controlled, or maybe just different, fighting style that they can use.

Todoroki can use his ice quirk on the bottom of his shoes to allow him to slide around and move more quickly, and use his fire quirk to melt that ice so to stop. He could also use it together to create fog to hide in, adjust the air temperature (indirectly) to weaken opponents, put a layer of ice on the floor and walls to hinder his opponent's movement, you know, control the environment to control his opponent.

Bakugou I feel like I've already explained, can use his explosion quirk to throw rubble and trash at his opponents if they prefer a close-range fight, get in close if they prefer to fight range. Stop relying on his quirk to do the damage and start relying on his muscles instead. As a "kill them" style last resort, instead of the "High Power, Wide Range" explosion we've seen in the latest chapter, he could adjust his equipment for a highly focused blast as well.

Uraraka's quirk, as it currently stands, is tricky. But, by controlling it, she could make use of a sledgehammer as a weapon with little difficulty.

Iida would be using his quirk more subtly if he used it for power, rather than speed. In other words, instead of using his quirk to run around really fast for a little while, he could use it to kick REALLY hard, when it's important.

The change I would have Mineta make isn't really subtle. I would make him a close-combat fighter, who uses his head-balls to stick his opponent's to things (preferably themselves and their allies).

Also, I would like to point out that Stain seemed to be at a higher physical point than human's in our world, without a quirk that enhanced his physical abilities. As such, I suggest that you should move the "bar" on physical levels of highly trained humans to beyond our best athlete's, and towards the super-human level.

2015-10-15, 03:09	Link #1061
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	^In regards to those spoilers: Spoiler for 63: Apparently, the part about Momo/Todo vs. Aizawa isn't 100% confirmed yet. But yeah, interesting to see All Might took damage from Bakugou's blasts after all. Though I guess that's another sign of him weakening, because I sort of highly doubt those blasts would be as effective on him if he were in his prime.... And in other news..... last week we get the results of Japan's popularity poll, so for this week how about we take a gander at the USA Jump's results? Spoiler for US poll: 1. Izuku Midoriya 2. Tsuyu Asui 3. Ochako Uraraka 4. All Might 5. Katsuki Bakugo 6. Shoto Todoroki 7. Fumikage Tokoyami 8. Stain 9. Mei Hatsume (tied) 9. Mina Ashido (tied) 11. Gran Torino 12. Momo Yaoyorozu 13. Hitoshi Shinso (tied) 13. Tenya Ida (tied) 15. Denki Kaminari 16. Eijiro Kirishima 17. Minoru Mineta (tied) 17. Tomura Shigaraki (tied) 19. Midnight 20. Shota Aizawa ^Huh, quite some differences from Japan's results! Interestingly, Bakugou outranks Todoroki here. And we even have the inclusion of Stain and Gran Torino! I'm rather amused that Mineta is roughly around the same place as he was in Japan's poll, though. Well, I'll definitely be looking forward to the next poll (whatever region it is) whenever it comes along....

2015-10-15, 15:02	Link #1064
Xacual Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	I don't really see how it's a bad thing for Deku to become the strongest, he's been set up for that ever since becoming the next OFA user. Once he reaches his peak he'll be even stronger than the current All Might at his prime. __________________ I was influenced by a certain group overflowing with madness and started trying to write a story. Please give it a try. Crashed into Fantasy

2015-10-15, 22:33	Link #1067
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Hey, so the volume 5 omake got translated! IMO, the most interesting info was that Horikoshi originally planned for Endeavor to be a teacher. What interests me about this is that I can actually still see this idea being possible. Say that one of the current teachers is forced to take a leave of absence due to whatever circumstances (which is very much possible for All Might), and Endeavor volunteers to act as a substitute. Heck, I can already see the shock on Todoroki's face when he sees his pops walking in the classroom.... In other news, the Chinese scans for the new chapter are out: Spoiler for 63: As already revealed in the earlier spoilers, Deku launches a blast from Bakugou's grenade at All Might, then the two of them make a dash for the exit. As he coughs blood, I believe All Might praises the boys' newfound teamwork, but he's not done with the both of them just yet.... Meanwhile, we focus on the Todoroki/Momo team. The two of them talk for a bit while Momo produces a bunch of matryoshkas (you know, those Russian doll things). However, in the middle of their chat, Aizawa suddenly shows up! He proceeds to wrap up Icyhot with his fabric, suppressing his quirk. I believe Todoroki tells Momo to run away, which she does. She's clearly frightened, but she still manages to evade Aizawa, who's in close pursuit. Eventually, she returns to Todoroki's side, and I think she basically tells him that she has no confidence in passing this test. However, Todoroki doesn't feel that way, and gives her encouragement, also revealing that he was one of the people who voted for her to become the class rep. At that moment, Aizawa returns, and Momo makes her move..... she tosses some of those matryoshka dolls in the air, and when the teacher tries to swat them away, it's revealed that one of them is hiding.... a flash grenade! As the grenade goes off, Momo takes the time to free the bound Todoroki! And now it seems that she's indeed resolved to win, after all....!!! Heh, nice to see Momo getting some development this chapter. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, this is even her "origin" chapter (notice that other characters going through major developments had an origin chapter, like Bakugou and Todoroki).

2015-10-16, 08:03	Link #1074
LevelSeven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Germany	TL;DR… somethindarker, and we are back to long posts XD Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? TL;DR… @Darius Drake Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? EDIT: ch.63 is out, Spoiler for 63: i dont know what to think, the willingness of kacchan to "use" deku is to fast and: it seems like deku also has his own stuff with kacchan to deal with either way, it is like i said, even kacchan building-lvling attack only hurt allmight a bit, i fear for the future development nevermind, for others: todo seems to have realized his mistake and momo turned into my #2 most favorite char, she is still "normal", one of the things i read way to often in fantasy/shounen LNs/mangas but which never really convinced me, momos case is different, she really is mentally a 15 years old kid Last edited by LevelSeven; 2015-10-16 at 14:58.

2015-10-16, 16:10	Link #1075
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	That was a nice chapter for Momo's character and Todoroki learned that no matter how competent he is, it would be in his best interest to hear out his teammates plans from time to time. __________________

2015-10-15, 20:58	Link #1066
FateAnomaly Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	As deku gets stronger i am sure the others will get stronger as well.

2015-10-16, 01:07	Link #1068
Darius Drake Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Australia	@ LevelSeven: I disagree with you. You seem to be assuming that everyone we've seen is WEAK. That's wrong, they're inexperienced, not weak. Momo's creation power's seem like they could create anything, so long as she understands it. Think about what would happen if she knew how to create some of the Hero Boosting Equipment! And that's ignoring the fact that she could make grenades as strong as the explosion shown in the spoilers! Todoroki's Icy Flame power has NOT been used to it's fullest, or even it's half-way point. The Flame alone should come close to father's level. And imagine if both Fire and Ice were combined! And that's ignoring what we've seen he can do with the ice. Bakugou's shown us that his explosions can be useful for both transport and combat, depending on use. He has also shown significant physical power. Imagine if he actually harnessed all that strength into a refined fighting style, instead of his current wild one. In other words, if everyone's OP, nobody is. You're judging early because you can see the optimal end result of one character, and not all of them.

2015-10-16, 16:53	Link #1076
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	let my ships sailed I give my blessing to Deku X Kacchan and Todoroki X Yaoyoruzu fun combination fight so far Spoiler for 63: A person bearing a unique ability like Yaoyoruzu is supposed to be the master strategies since she could create whatever she wanted In the end, I believe if she manage to mature and conquer the ability and her weakness, it would not be hard for her to be top students in the class in term of reputation against villain (not only in studies)

2015-10-16, 19:01	Link #1077
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Great chapter! Like I said in the spoiler, I really enjoy seeing Momo get some development. Now, I eagerly await when the author gives more screentime to frog girl and grape boy.... Also, about Momo's power: I noticed that nukes were mentioned, and it occurred to me..... Bakugou's gonna be even more butthurt if Momo manages to make one of those babies before he's capable of creating nuke-level explosions of his own!

2015-10-16, 19:11	Link #1078
ranchan13 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I'm just happy that in the American Poll, my beloved Frog Girl ranked #2 __________________ Combat ELEment STrategic Integrated Artificial Lifeform

2015-10-16, 21:06	Link #1079
FateAnomaly Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Momo doesn't have resistance against the bombs she create so she will die if she make a nuke.

2015-10-16, 21:07	Link #1080
Darius Drake Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Australia	@ LevelSeven: Bakugou's actually already shown us how he could become a ranged fighter. He just needs to turn trash into projectiles, aka, use his quirk as a propellant, not a direct weapon. As for getting the characters to the same level of power as All Might's/Deku's true 100%, that's a bit trickier, for a few reasons. - 1. We don't know what All Might's or Deku's true 100% is. - 2. We don't know how All Might is affected by the power loss, or what, specifically, is limiting him. AKA, we don't know how much of the loss is due to his injury, how much is due to the transfer to deku, and how much is due to both these things amplifying each other. This is important, because it's actually relates to the reason you've brought up how OP All Might seems. If All Might's currently received a 10% or 20% reduction, based purely on his direct power transfer, then the defensive part of the power boost may only be 10% or 20% below his max. - 3. We don't know Endeavour's true power, or how he fights when backed into a corner. Nor do we know about the "power level" of the remaining top 5, nor what their quirks are. THIS is something I consider vital information. These are people considered to be near All Might's level. How they fight, how they react to things like hostage situations, how they trap their opponents, this is VITAL knowledge if we are to come up with ways that you can be strong without just making things up out of nothing. And, no, I don't consider All Might's "In my heyday, it would have taken 5 punches, but I just threw 300" comment while fighting Nomu to be overly important comparison. Especially since I don't see much/any evidence that he's telling the truth. So, instead of making up something I won't get you to change your mind on I'm going to explain "Subtle Use". Mostly because I want to know how Endeavour fights strong opponents, or in hostage situations, before I try to answer. My idea of "Subtle" here is of a more of a refined and controlled, or maybe just different, fighting style that they can use. Todoroki can use his ice quirk on the bottom of his shoes to allow him to slide around and move more quickly, and use his fire quirk to melt that ice so to stop. He could also use it together to create fog to hide in, adjust the air temperature (indirectly) to weaken opponents, put a layer of ice on the floor and walls to hinder his opponent's movement, you know, control the environment to control his opponent. Bakugou I feel like I've already explained, can use his explosion quirk to throw rubble and trash at his opponents if they prefer a close-range fight, get in close if they prefer to fight range. Stop relying on his quirk to do the damage and start relying on his muscles instead. As a "kill them" style last resort, instead of the "High Power, Wide Range" explosion we've seen in the latest chapter, he could adjust his equipment for a highly focused blast as well. Uraraka's quirk, as it currently stands, is tricky. But, by controlling it, she could make use of a sledgehammer as a weapon with little difficulty. Iida would be using his quirk more subtly if he used it for power, rather than speed. In other words, instead of using his quirk to run around really fast for a little while, he could use it to kick REALLY hard, when it's important. The change I would have Mineta make isn't really subtle. I would make him a close-combat fighter, who uses his head-balls to stick his opponent's to things (preferably themselves and their allies). Also, I would like to point out that Stain seemed to be at a higher physical point than human's in our world, without a quirk that enhanced his physical abilities. As such, I suggest that you should move the "bar" on physical levels of highly trained humans to beyond our best athlete's, and towards the super-human level.