Hayate the Combat Butler {Hayate no Gotoku!} generic discussion

[Joojoobees]

Yes, they do a good job of handling the censorship. It doesn't really detract from the show, and even manages to add some comedy that is very much in the same vein as the other humor (like Hayate fighting with the narrator over saying his line).

On to more serious matters: Who is the old man that was introduced in the second episode? I thought it was Nagi's father at first, but then I wasn't really sure. Is that an employee?

[rooboy]

It's the Head Butler. His name is Klaus.

[Joojoobees]

Originally Posted by rooboy

It's the Head Butler. His name is Klaus.

Thanks! I caught that Maria referred to him as Klaus-san, then I thought, "that doesn't sound like the way she would refer to the Nagi's dad."

[rooboy]

Klaus is a lot like the resident father-figure I guess. He definitely doesn't seem very fond of Hayate for his ojou-sama.

Spoiler for I guess it's a spoiler? Concerns Nagi's father:

Nagi's father is alive and will appear later on (presumably - he is in the manga).

I thought some of the censorship was in the manga as well - don't they always censor the gundams and things that are trademarked?

The fanservice shot at the first "ending" of episode 2 cracked me up. The anime now has like 1000x more fanservice than the manga.

[LCeh]

I really enjoyed this episode, but like Skane, I was hoping they would do more with the bathing scene.

And it's odd, cause from what I have read, the last 2 komas on this page is translated quite differently. From what I have read, which is the Chinese translation, the last 2 komas went more like this:

Spoiler:

First Koma:

Bubble on the left side of Hayate: "Wait! I have already come to heaven, how can I still be thinking about these things?"
Bubble on the right side of Hayate: "No- No matter whether this is heaven or a dream, this has become quite awkward. What will happen next?"

Second Koma:

Bubble on the left side of Maria: "I shouldn't be going this far with this boy!"
Bubble on the right side of Maria: "And this shouldn't be happening either! Isn't this a shounen manga?!"

I wonder if it's my translation that was wrong of Skane's version, and now I am very curious. Can anyone please confirm?

[Fruitfly]

Originally Posted by LCeh

I really enjoyed this episode, but like Skane, I was hoping they would do more with the bathing scene.

And it's odd, cause from what I have read, the last 2 komas on this page is translated quite differently. From what I have read, which is the Chinese translation, the last 2 komas went more like this:

Spoiler:

First Koma:

Bubble on the left side of Hayate: "Wait! I have already come to heaven, how can I still be thinking about these things?"
Bubble on the right side of Hayate: "No- No matter whether this is heaven or a dream, this has become quite awkward. What will happen next?"

Second Koma:

Bubble on the left side of Maria: "I shouldn't be going this far with this boy!"
Bubble on the right side of Maria: "And this shouldn't be happening either! Isn't this a shounen manga?!"

I wonder if it's my translation that was wrong of Skane's version, and now I am very curious. Can anyone please confirm?

Not quite sure but I believe it's Hayate thoughts still in the 2nd Koma.
Volume one is a bit confusing. Maybe thats why they did change stuff here and there. But I'm unhappy that they took out a lot of the parts with Maria.

I looked in Viz's translation. It's a mix of yours and the picture that Skane posted. So maybe you're both right.

[dkellis]

Every time I listen to the narrator I keep picturing Onsokumaru (from Ninja Nonsense) behind the microphone, leering widely.

[Owaranai Destiny]

Saw episode 2. I've got a feeling those were not the last parodies that will appear in HnG. It's not a 'sturdy robot, not a ***dam.' It's Black Lagoon and One Piece if I'm not wrong.

Wonder what kind of a role will Maria play later on other than being the more sensible of the trio.

[Lost]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

is this really "solid censorship"?
to me, i was quite amused, since it appears to be an irrationel censor, thus another comedic aspect (especially episode 1 : at the very end, the "censor" drawing was covering like... even less than 1/3 of hayate's head, which would imply it wasn't that bloody/gory)
i think it adds some funny wild imagination here : "we can't show you ! but you can guess WHAT it looks like" *animators grinning*

Yeah, it would save them from having to splurge out on loads of Red bath agent in scenes like that too.

Originally Posted by rooboy

It's the Head Butler. His name is Klaus.

This Klaus; or his VA at least, keeps popping up everywhere. If I'm not wrong, he was 3 persons (+1 if you include the narrator) in episode 2. XD

[Ayu-ayu]

Originally Posted by Asrialys

In the end or before Maria shows up?

Sorry, was away for a bit, but it looks like no one else followed up on it, so I checked the manga version for comparison to see if this was original to the anime or not.

Yeah, the anime version of this scene in ep. 1 has got to be a rip on Yuuichi's scene from the KyoAni Kanon, because the dialogue was rewritten for the scene in Hayate. It's right before Maria shows up, where he feels he should give up on his life while lying in the snow. Compare the monologue and the editing to the scene at the end of the episode of Kanon before Makoto (Big) shows up...

[meh]

Wow, I haven't laughed this hard at an anime since Haruhi ended. I liked the manga, but the anime is way better in the way the jokes are carried out. The ***dam and black lagoon references were just just killers.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Episode 2. Okay, I'm sold. Funny and romantic, with great voice-acting. I am a sucker for shows that step outside themselves and look back, like with the "this part isn't over" bits. The source manga must be good, and the adaptation seems good, too.

Nagi isn't a tsundere, she's a deretsun: the dere comes first, and the tsun just punctuates it from time to time. For Kugimiya Rie's sake, as well, I like to see her inch her way out of the stereotype. And not only is Tanaka Rie's Maria great, it's amazing to hear it just after hearing her doing Hiro in Hataraki Man. Sugoi.

With Itou Shizuka, Matsuki Miyu, Ueda Kana, Inoue Marina, Nabatame Hitomi, Yahagi Sayuri, and Takahashi Mikako yet to come. And Wakamoto Norio's voiceover.

I think we're seeing the birth of a new directorial talent in Kawaguchi Keiichi, who did such a great job with Getsumen to Heiki Miina, his only other show.

Amazing combination of writers adapting the manga: Inotsume Shinichi is listed as having done nothing but this and Koutetsu Sangokushi, the wild new BL adaptation of the Three Kingdoms. But lead writer Takegami Junki has been the lead on everything from Mar and Gunslinger Girl to Naruto Shippuden to Getsumen To Heiki Miina, and has done script work on Mizuiro Jidai and Maison Ikkoku.

[Jazzrat]

The censorship in the manga was basically for side stepping the copyright issue when doing parodies of other anime/mange while the censorship in the anime is more on cutting out the blood and gory part along with the parody reference.


Overall, it shouldnt detract your viewing experiences though since the bloody part doesn't enhance the comedy as much as the censorship joke.

[Goofus Maximus]

I generally miss the "in" jokes, but the whole "Black Lagoon/One-Piece" gag pretty much bludgeoned me into getting it!

Sigh. I didn't even spell "signature" right in my new sig... Bah. I'm not going to redo it either! So there! Chalk one up to my naturally empty mind!

[Matt Soulblade]

Originally Posted by Ayu-ayu

Sorry, was away for a bit, but it looks like no one else followed up on it, so I checked the manga version for comparison to see if this was original to the anime or not.

Yeah, the anime version of this scene in ep. 1 has got to be a rip on Yuuichi's scene from the KyoAni Kanon, because the dialogue was rewritten for the scene in Hayate. It's right before Maria shows up, where he feels he should give up on his life while lying in the snow. Compare the monologue and the editing to the scene at the end of the episode of Kanon before Makoto (Big) shows up...

Wow, is this... true? I dont think there is no posibility of this being true since Kanon ended recently and had considerable popularity...

Originally Posted by Goofus Maximus

Sigh. I didn't even spell "signature" right in my new sig... Bah. I'm not going to redo it either! So there! Chalk one up to my naturally empty mind!

At least you made me laugh with this phrase

[Sinestra]

The craziness continues i am throughly enjoying the show and episode did not disappoint. Its funny its almost like this episode was being told through the eyes of Maria since our two main characters are as clueless as can be. What i really like is that humor is so straight forward its impossible to miss. This series has also taught me a valuable already. SANTA CLAUSE IS A BASTARD if anyone sees him next Christmas make sure to jack him up for me. Plus Hayata calling the Yukuza generous people still makes roll.

Best dialog of episode 2
"But what exactly is Ayasaki Hayata boy like?"

"um let me see....someone who can catch up to a car speeding at 120 KM/H on a bicycle and can withstand being run over by said car."

"Maria which***damn is that? thats as sturdy as a giant robot"

"No Claus-san he is a human."

Not sure if anyone noticed this but i swear they were doing a parody of Black Lagoon when Hayata went off on his rant. That has got to be Dutch and Revy

[Goofus Maximus]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

The craziness continues i am throughly enjoying the show and episode did not disappoint. Its funny its almost like this episode was being told through the eyes of Maria since our two main characters are as clueless as can be. What i really like is that humor is so straight forward its impossible to miss. This series has also taught me a valuable already. SANTA CLAUSE IS A BASTARD if anyone sees him next Christmas make sure to jack him up for me. Plus Hayata calling the Yukuza generous people still makes roll.

Best dialog of episode 2
"But what exactly is Ayasaki Hayata boy like?"

"um let me see....someone who can catch up to a car speeding at 120 KM/H on a bicycle and can withstand being run over by said car."

"Maria which***damn is that? thats as sturdy as a giant robot"

"No Claus-san he is a human."

Not sure if anyone noticed this but i swear they were doing a parody of Black Lagoon when Hayata went off on his rant. That has got to be Dutch and Revy

Did you catch the One Piece reference just after that? Hat included!

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by Goofus Maximus

Did you catch the One Piece reference just after that? Hat included!

Oh crap i forgot about that good call

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by AvianWing

Why is it necessary to censor the word, Gundam? Or part of it, at least. Gundam was also censored in Haruhi when they parodied it.

Cause rumour has it Sunrise will come and eat your children if you breach copyright on the Gundam. Sunrise is one of two Japanese companies (the other being Gonzo) that proactively makes Youtube remove its shows from the site. There's even a rumour (completely false as Banpresto is a sister company to Sunrise and part of the Bandai family) that Sunrise made Banpresto remove the Huckbein series of Personal Troopers from Super Robot Wars OGs because of their resemblance to Gundam. Basically its both a sign of respect and a sign of fear from companies who want to pay tribute to Gundam without crossing the line.

[Matt Soulblade]

Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama

Cause rumour has it Sunrise will come and eat your children if you breach copyright on the Gundam. Sunrise is one of two Japanese companies (the other being Gonzo) that proactively makes Youtube remove its shows from the site. There's even a rumour (completely false as Banpresto is a sister company to Sunrise and part of the Bandai family) that Sunrise made Banpresto remove the Huckbein series of Personal Troopers from Super Robot Wars OGs because of their resemblance to Gundam. Basically its both a sign of respect and a sign of fear from companies who want to pay tribute to Gundam without crossing the line.

Offt: That is... not truth right????? I mean come on... they JUST CANT DO THAT COME ON!.

OnT: I still wonder if the Gundam references will be kept... I guess this is a bad sign...