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Swordstriker21 · 2012-07-14, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Dark Wing

Well I'm glad someone finally said it...us anime only fans do fill like we're the only ones enjoying to show so fare.

Again that's the bane of novel readers. You'd think we've already learned our lesson from Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings but no...

Anyway for the anime-only viewers out there please speak your thoughts so far. As a longtime fan of the series in general I'm very interested in what you folks have to say

Dengar · 2012-07-14, 20:28

Oh, as for my stance as an anime-watcher, I don't particularly feel like I missed out on anything. I mean I don't doubt for a second that the LN's are much more detailed about stuff. But for example, take the food scene.

It conveyed a number of things, namely

1) Asuna isn't very social and probably doesn't mingle much at all, which is later confirmed by her noobisheness as far as party mechanics are concerned.
2) Players apparently can, and possibly need to, eat food. And apparently can taste it as well, which, considering the game's interface, isn't that strange.
3) The game has a fair number of miscelleanous quests that give only small rewards like the cream, other taste enhances probably exist as well.
4) Kirito actually has actually been doing some of these miscelleanous quests, either as part of his plan to get stronger (by gaining XP), or he actually did them to get a bit of enjoyment out of an otherwise pretty grim and life threatening situation, or possibly a combination of both.

Archmagination2002 · 2012-07-14, 20:42

They did cut a lot of parts out and didn't explain much, but it still was a enjoyable episode.(unlike campione!)

It was only alluded to and never shown in this episode and nobody has mentioned it here but the battle was slightly different.

Spoiler for Fleshing out of the Battle:

frubam · 2012-07-14, 20:42

That "beater" nickname is kinda stupid, but the episode was exceptional in all other areas, so I'll let that go. I just hope it's not a name that sticks (>.>)...

Kinda felt like they skipped some content from the woods to the boss's door. Asuna didnt' even know about "Switching", so I expected a little side tutorial like in the first episode's Kiri/Klein explanation regarding it. Of course there probably were some battles from when they entered the first floor to the boss's door, but I can live without that in order to get to the meat of the story.

Once again, Kirito impressed me in this episode; not by his fighting prowess, but his decision to make himself the bad guy so that everyone else wouldn't stop trusting each other. Even though it wouldn't be in his character to do so, I thought he'd mention about Diabel being a beta tester, but he reluctantly took all the blame for himself, becoming what seemed the opposite of his char's personality for everyone else. Oh, and when he equipped that armor, that just made him look so badass =03.

Swordstriker21 · 2012-07-14, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Dengar

Oh, as for my stance as an anime-watcher, I don't particularly feel like I missed out on anything. I mean I don't doubt for a second that the LN's are much more detailed about stuff. But for example, take the food scene.

It conveyed a number of things, namely

1) Asuna isn't very social and probably doesn't mingle much at all, which is later confirmed by her noobisheness as far as party mechanics are concerned.
2) Players apparently can, and possibly need to, eat food. And apparently can taste it as well, which, considering the game's interface, isn't that strange.
3) The game has a fair number of miscelleanous quests that give only small rewards like the cream, other taste enhances probably exist as well.
4) Kirito actually has actually been doing some of these miscelleanous quests, either as part of his plan to get stronger (by gaining XP), or he actually did them to get a bit of enjoyment out of an otherwise pretty grim and life threatening situation, or possibly a combination of both.

I feel compelled to thank you for actually being pretty sensitive to these kinds of little details

And you're mostly right. Finally! An observant viewer. You don't know how many so called "anime fans" I've encountered who watched shows but didn't really understand a thing about said show. Because of the nature of this adaptation I do hope others are also able to read between the lines and not just pay attention to the cute girls or spiffy action scenes. Though I admit those really are pretty distracting

Axiszero · 2012-07-14, 20:47

Damn the whole episode was good hope the next few boss fights will be as intense

Poor Argo was cut out D:

Dark Wing · 2012-07-14, 20:50

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Originally Posted by frubam

Once again, Kirito impressed me in this episode; not by his fighting prowess, but his decision to make himself the bad guy so that everyone else wouldn't stop trusting each other. Even though it wouldn't be in his character to do so, I thought he'd mention about Diabel being a beta tester, but he reluctantly took all the blame for himself, becoming what seemed the opposite of his char's personality for everyone else. Oh, and when he equipped that armor, that just made him look so badass =03.

He is the hero SAO needs but does not deserve...

Dengar · 2012-07-14, 20:50

The "beater" nickname probably follows some weird alien Japanese logic. Being some kind of pun between "beta", and "beater" (which in japan would probably be pronounced "biita")

Hmm.... · 2012-07-14, 20:55

Beater actually come from Beta + Cheater
Yes, still pretty stupid I know ^^"

Swordstriker21 · 2012-07-14, 20:58

Hey it was coined by a Japanese writer. And he played Ragnarok Online and got his inspiration from there. If you're familiar w/ that MMO and actually know how old that game is you'll at least forgive Kawahara for the corney portmanteau.

@Dark Wing Surprisingly fitting since both Wayne and Kirito have the predilection to wear things black^^

Dengar · 2012-07-14, 21:00

Well, at least I was right on the "weird alien Japanese logic" bit.

Rovert10 · 2012-07-14, 21:02

I think a lot of malice was due to the hype of the LN and episode 1.

We were like "OMFG SAO ANIME!1!!11!1!" at the beginning.

Episode 1 comes along we were like "OMG THIS IS AMAZING!!!11!1!"

Once episode 2 came out and didn't meet the standard set by the first, people tend to go "WTF IS THIS S***!"

Swordstriker21 · 2012-07-14, 21:06

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Originally Posted by Rovert10

I think a lot of malice was due to the hype of the LN and episode 1.

We were like "OMFG SAO ANIME!1!!11!1!" at the beginning.

Episode 1 comes along we were like "OMG THIS IS AMAZING!!!11!1!"

Once episode 2 came out and didn't meet the standard set by the first, people tend to go "WTF IS THIS S***!"

Guilty as charged...

Hmm.... · 2012-07-14, 21:11

I still demand sucidal Asuna

SRanger · 2012-07-14, 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rovert10

I think a lot of malice was due to the hype of the LN and episode 1.

We were like "OMFG SAO ANIME!1!!11!1!" at the beginning.

Episode 1 comes along we were like "OMG THIS IS AMAZING!!!11!1!"

Once episode 2 came out and didn't meet the standard set by the first, people tend to go "WTF IS THIS S***!"

lel. same here.

Somnus · 2012-07-14, 21:31

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Originally Posted by james0246

Have you never seen another television anime

?

Haha, it's true and as an avid fan of Dragonball Z before I got into anime I should be no stranger to fights ranging from lackluster to completely awesome. I just felt the instant switch from the awesome intro charge to the still frame co-ordination attacks somewhat jarring.

On the other hand, I am completely loving how they're handling the glow effects and the sword skills.

hoshino_crimsonwings · 2012-07-14, 21:43

Perfect! I loved this episode, almost exactly like how I pictured the fights in the novel.

Bombo · 2012-07-14, 21:43

Diabel was great leader raid but in the end dead from greed items

But i like him how to giving orders to others.

Iron Maw · 2012-07-14, 21:47

While weaker than the premiere, I thought it was pretty good episode overall. The reactions to this thread just shows people where hyping this series too hard.

At this point the thing I'm most worried about is the production. I didn't think series would be keep up with quality of the first episode, however the second brought a noticeable decline. I pretty disappointing half the Kobold fight consisted of nothing but still shots. I was also expecting more elaborate movement for the sword/weapon techniques rather than pans and bright flashes. But since everyone is probably barely past Lv 10, I guess I'm expecting too much.

Content-wise it was pretty decent. Asuna seems alright, but I'm pretty baffled how she could not know where to finally basic player info is despite being called a skilled player. I also found it pretty weird that Kirito decided to attack the boss with just himself and Asuna instead of having the other players help out. Lastly what's everyone using only melee weapons anyway? How about some bows or magic here?

Aside from that it was a good setup episode. 7/10

Rovert10 · 2012-07-14, 21:51

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Originally Posted by Iron Maw

How about some bows or magic here?

It was said in Episode 1 that those don't exist in SAO

View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 02
10 out of 10: Near Perfect...	36	19.78%
9 out of 10: Excellent...	49	26.92%
8 out of 10: Very Good...	43	23.63%
7 out of 10: Good...	32	17.58%
6 out of 10: Average...	16	8.79%
5 out of 10: Below Average...	1	0.55%
4 out of 10: Poor...	2	1.10%
3 out of 10: Bad...	1	0.55%
2 out of 10: Very Bad...	0	0%
1 out of 10: Torturous...	2	1.10%
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2012-07-14, 20:42	Link #143
Archmagination2002 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	They did cut a lot of parts out and didn't explain much, but it still was a enjoyable episode.(unlike campione!) It was only alluded to and never shown in this episode and nobody has mentioned it here but the battle was slightly different. Spoiler for Fleshing out of the Battle: The Kobold Lord pulled out a katana sword instead of its beta sword resulting in it having a different skillset. At the time the Kobold Lord was surrounded on 3 sides by teams of 6 players all being brilliantly directed by Diabel who had taken the front side by himself so he could get in the last blow. Kirito was with Asuna taking care of the spawning Kobold Guards and was the only one to notice(like in the anime) that the sword was a Katana. During the beta Kirito had lot of trouble with monsters on the 8th/9th who mostly wielded Katana's and so he instantly realized that the group was in trouble. The Kobold Lord activated 'Hurricane Slice', an AOE sword skill that had the requirement of enemy's behind him. The surrounding groups managed to survive because they were in a party and the damage was spread out among them.. Diabel being solo took the whole damage. The healing potion offered by Kirito was already useless.. remember that this is the 1st floor and that the best healing available was just a simple Heal over Time(Regen) so it wouldn't work quickly enough to keep him alive. The next part of the battle was where Kirito shined.. he got the stunned people out of the way, but not before an idiot stepped behind the Kobold Lord triggering another Hurricane.. with his experiences against Katana skills Kirito gambled and used a Sword skill to counter, his failure would result in a bunch of deaths.. result was cancellation of skills and stunning both of them.. which allowed Asuna to strike. The battle dissolved into a Kirito counter/stun game with his life on the line. Kirito made a misidentified the Kobold Lords Katana skill being used which made him take strong blow instead of counter/stunning.. then Egil stepped in. The anime supplied the rest.

2012-07-14, 20:42	Link #144
frubam simp for Lyria Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: on the Grandcypher Age: 40	That "beater" nickname is kinda stupid, but the episode was exceptional in all other areas, so I'll let that go. I just hope it's not a name that sticks (>.>)... Kinda felt like they skipped some content from the woods to the boss's door. Asuna didnt' even know about "Switching", so I expected a little side tutorial like in the first episode's Kiri/Klein explanation regarding it. Of course there probably were some battles from when they entered the first floor to the boss's door, but I can live without that in order to get to the meat of the story. Once again, Kirito impressed me in this episode; not by his fighting prowess, but his decision to make himself the bad guy so that everyone else wouldn't stop trusting each other. Even though it wouldn't be in his character to do so, I thought he'd mention about Diabel being a beta tester, but he reluctantly took all the blame for himself, becoming what seemed the opposite of his char's personality for everyone else. Oh, and when he equipped that armor, that just made him look so badass =03. __________________ Pure of heart, precious as life (^,^ )

2012-07-14, 20:55	Link #149
Hmm.... Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Beater actually come from Beta + Cheater Yes, still pretty stupid I know ^^" __________________ (\__/) (O.o ) (> < ) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination!

2012-07-14, 20:58	Link #150
Swordstriker21 Oshite mairu!!! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ware wa Kuu. Ware wa Kou. Ware wa Jin!	Hey it was coined by a Japanese writer. And he played Ragnarok Online and got his inspiration from there. If you're familiar w/ that MMO and actually know how old that game is you'll at least forgive Kawahara for the corney portmanteau. @Dark Wing Surprisingly fitting since both Wayne and Kirito have the predilection to wear things black^^ __________________ The true last samurai...

2012-07-14, 20:28	Link #142
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Oh, as for my stance as an anime-watcher, I don't particularly feel like I missed out on anything. I mean I don't doubt for a second that the LN's are much more detailed about stuff. But for example, take the food scene. It conveyed a number of things, namely 1) Asuna isn't very social and probably doesn't mingle much at all, which is later confirmed by her noobisheness as far as party mechanics are concerned. 2) Players apparently can, and possibly need to, eat food. And apparently can taste it as well, which, considering the game's interface, isn't that strange. 3) The game has a fair number of miscelleanous quests that give only small rewards like the cream, other taste enhances probably exist as well. 4) Kirito actually has actually been doing some of these miscelleanous quests, either as part of his plan to get stronger (by gaining XP), or he actually did them to get a bit of enjoyment out of an otherwise pretty grim and life threatening situation, or possibly a combination of both.

2012-07-14, 20:47	Link #146
Axiszero The Forsaken Lurker Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Singapore	Damn the whole episode was good hope the next few boss fights will be as intense Poor Argo was cut out D:

2012-07-14, 20:50	Link #148
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	The "beater" nickname probably follows some weird alien Japanese logic. Being some kind of pun between "beta", and "beater" (which in japan would probably be pronounced "biita")

2012-07-14, 21:00	Link #151
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Well, at least I was right on the "weird alien Japanese logic" bit.

2012-07-14, 21:02	Link #152
Rovert10 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	I think a lot of malice was due to the hype of the LN and episode 1. We were like "OMFG SAO ANIME!1!!11!1!" at the beginning. Episode 1 comes along we were like "OMG THIS IS AMAZING!!!11!1!" Once episode 2 came out and didn't meet the standard set by the first, people tend to go "WTF IS THIS S***!"

2012-07-14, 21:11	Link #154
Hmm.... Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I still demand sucidal Asuna __________________ (\__/) (O.o ) (> < ) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination!

2012-07-14, 21:43	Link #157
hoshino_crimsonwings Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	Perfect! I loved this episode, almost exactly like how I pictured the fights in the novel. __________________

2012-07-14, 21:43	Link #158
Bombo TSF Fans Join Date: Sep 2008	Diabel was great leader raid but in the end dead from greed items But i like him how to giving orders to others.

2012-07-14, 21:47	Link #159
Iron Maw Banned Join Date: Feb 2006	While weaker than the premiere, I thought it was pretty good episode overall. The reactions to this thread just shows people where hyping this series too hard. At this point the thing I'm most worried about is the production. I didn't think series would be keep up with quality of the first episode, however the second brought a noticeable decline. I pretty disappointing half the Kobold fight consisted of nothing but still shots. I was also expecting more elaborate movement for the sword/weapon techniques rather than pans and bright flashes. But since everyone is probably barely past Lv 10, I guess I'm expecting too much. Content-wise it was pretty decent. Asuna seems alright, but I'm pretty baffled how she could not know where to finally basic player info is despite being called a skilled player. I also found it pretty weird that Kirito decided to attack the boss with just himself and Asuna instead of having the other players help out. Lastly what's everyone using only melee weapons anyway? How about some bows or magic here? Aside from that it was a good setup episode. 7/10