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Well for one, it's just a bastardized version of "regardless" and when you think about it really means the exact opposite of "regardless" since you're putting a negative prefix in front of it. So let's say for example you say "I'm going to buy a dog regardless of its fur color," meaning you will buy a new dog and the color of the dog's fur will have nothing to do with whether or not you decide to buy it. Now instead you say "I'm going to buy a new dog irregardless of its fur color." Since you put the "ir-" in front of it, it negates the meaning of regardless and you're actually saying the color of the fur WILL affect your decision on buying a new dog. So yeah, that's all.
Indeed. At the moment I really can't recall him smiling at any other girls that way. I don't know, did he ever smile that way at Kallen or C.C.? |
2009-10-19, 18:11 | Link #1203 |
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Well, as much as I would love to continue talking about the use of the word "irregardless" (or the lack thereof) this is the Shirley thread afterall, so I've got a new topic. There's some sources that stated that in the original plans for R2, among other things that could have been, there was supposed to be an extra Shirley subplot that supposedly would have come in earlier in the season. Does anyone have any speculations on this?
I personally have no idea what it could have involved. We can assume that in the original plans for R2 the whole Charles geassing the SC would never have happened so Shirley would still know that Lelouch was Zero at the beginning of the season. I'm the sub-arc would have had something to do with Shirley confronting Lelouch or doing something about it. In the worst-case scenario it could have been a subplot that led to her death, only sooner (if I'm not mistaken I think the writers always were planning to kill Shirley. Bastards.) |
2009-10-20, 01:41 | Link #1204 |
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Well, Shirley was a like an unnecessary barrier in Lelouch's plan. It is amazing, that Lelouch never killed her, and instead kept deceiving her, to make it better for the both of them. Although I wish that Lelouch and Shirley should have been deeply involved with each other, there was C.C. and Kallen.
It would have been nice, if we could add more to Lelouch's goal's such as creating a fairy tale like place for Shirley, who was there for him when he was in trouble. This way when Shirley died, Lelouch could have had a huge guilt trip, instead of having a fake Nunally death, which kind of spoiled it. |
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But yeah, it does show how much Lelouch cared for Shirley considering how far he was willing to go to protect her. Quote:
As for creating a fairy tale/paradise for Shirley...well, that could have tied into the whole "making-the-world-a-better-place" thing, but I think for a good part of the show Lelouch just wanted to keep her away from him since she seemed pretty happy otherwise. Who knows though? Perhaps if things had turned out a little differently he may have gone back to her after his whole world revolution thing. EDIT: As far as blade's question as to displays of love on Lelouch's end towards Shirley, comparable to sending an army after a girl. Well, I guess it really depends on how you interpret certain scenes since, as we all know, there was no guaranteed absolute 100% canon pairing in the series. However, I will gladly point out that Lelouch put his life in immediate danger to save Shirley from jumping off the building. Take it for what you will. Last edited by Nobodyman9; 2009-10-20 at 13:45. |
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There is also the fact that Lelouch has a near pathological need to be in charge of things and take responsibility for the consequences, as Schneizel pointed out in Turn 19. Yet Shirley's death is so horrendous to him that he cannot bring himself to accept complete responsibility, going so far as to blame others who are completely uninvolved. Shirley was important enough for Lelouch to compromise both his sense of justice AND his sense of responsibility for. Lastly, there is the fact that she was a major motivating factor in Zero Requiem, which pretty much avoids being Character Derailment for Lelouch only because he can be assumed to have gone completely insane. |
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BTW, did we ever get a full translation of the narrative dialogue from the Zero Requiem DVD? I know we have the basic jist of it, but I was wondering if someone took the time make a full, clearly understandable translation. In particular I'm curious about what Lelouch said in his narrative right after Shirley's death. |
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2009-11-07, 18:12 | Link #1212 |
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Well, the art itself is very good, but the style is a bit different from official Code Geass fanart. The outlines aren't as thick or defined and the color texture is different.
Anyway, bringing this topic over from the romance thread, how open do you think Shirley is about her body (sexiness)? Personally, while I think she's pretty much comfortable with her body, I don't think it's to the extent that she'll wear just anything anywhere. I'm sure there are some instances (and there have been) where Shirley gets embarassed or uncomfortable in regard to her body. |
2009-11-14, 12:04 | Link #1215 |
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Killing off Shirley was one of the saddest and somewhat expected parts in Code Geass. If they had to kill her either way, why not later? Would'nt that have been better to have her die later? Shirley was a target in Lelouch's way for Rolo so he thought it would be better to kill her. And she was confused after she regained her memory even when she was dying.
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