AnimeSuki Forums

chad001 · 2012-07-26, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by wagnerr

1. negotiator
2. gun
3. strategist
4. economy
5. technology
cmiiw
hideyoshi one of the reason nobunaga success
genius negotiator and strategist

Well other than the fact that he contributed to economy too (I mean, mathmatically, he earned about 22.5k kan for the 30k koku rice) and tech (if they start mirroring the 'two by four' method, yeah, you're about right.

P.S.:
O, another shock hit me: this Sengoku-era Japan (don't quote me..) that means Nene is legal!

P.P.S.:
Finally fixing my double-posting habit!

Sumeragi · 2012-07-26, 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by chad001

P.S.:
O, another shock hit me: this Sengoku-era Japan (don't quote me..) that means Nene is legal!

Thankfully the Monkey is not a lolicon.

chad001 · 2012-07-26, 01:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Thankfully the Monkey is not a lolicon.

*sigh* My friend, have you ever heard of inevitability? Hideyoshi is sandle-bearer + monkey, Okehazama, Oichi marries Nagamasa, Hanbei joins Hideyoshi, Sunomata gets built in one night, Akechi wants to kill Nobuna(ga), Nene Asano is Hideyoshi's wife. Some things are just meant to happen... (lol jks, don't quote me on that either)

Quote:

Originally Posted by wagnerr

it was different hideyoshi supposed to marry nobunaga daughter.
is not going to happen i think

Well, he's supposed to marry both Inuchiyo's and Nobuna's daughter... now I don't know about lolicon (which I'm not sure applies here, cause lolicon 'describes an attraction to underage girls'... Nene isn't underage in Sengoku-Japan) but I'm sure Sagara's not into incest...

P.S. I JUST realized that Kira changed his(her?) name to Athena. How did I miss that?

P.P.S. I've been here for over 3 years now and I've posted more this week than in my entire life...

P.P.P.S. Yeah... and adrenaline rush wears off in 3... 2... ZZZZZZZZZ

wagnerr · 2012-07-26, 01:35

i despised close incest and iam not seeing the protagonist marrying children (nobuna and others).IMO
so i think he ending up virgin

no offense quite heavy though

Om Nerabdator · 2012-07-26, 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mechatrill

Okay, me again. I know I said I'm not going any further, but I couldn't help it...

So here's volume 5, chapters 1-4

Spoiler:

We start with Nobukatsu, who is still cross dressing even though he's back in Oda territory, moping over Nagamasa to MC. He also sees the difficult atmosphere between the MC and Nobuna thanks to that little incident with Katsue (grope and got catch in the act by Nobuna) and vowed to help them get together.

Now comes Mitsuhide. Remember last volume when she misunderstood Nobuna and thought she was commanding her to marry the MC? Well, she's really getting into it, showing up at the MC's place in a wedding kimono and doing the bowing thing with 3 fingers touching the floor and declaring that they'll be married (yep, Mitsuhide is now fully dere for the MC) and talking about the love nest she'll be building for them (last volume. I didn't cover it, but Nobuna had ordered Mitsuhide to go construct a castle at some location to connect trade routs i think? It was originally supposed to be MC's reward, but after that thing with Katsue... Yeah...).

Over at Nobuna, Nobukatsu convinces her to repair the relationship between Nobuna and the MC. Of course, anime timing happens and she comes in right in the middle of Mitsuhide declaring about how she's the MC's wife and their new love nest. That Mitsuhide misunderstood Nobuna and thought she was ordering the marriage between her[Mitsuhide] and the MC does come out, but before Nobuna could clarify and calm down, Mitsuhide also asked the MC to "take responsibility for touching my naked body and stealing my lips" (last volume, Mitsuhide had to perform CPR to revive MC and then directly shared body heat to warm him up). MC had no idea what's going on, and Nobuna's apoplectic, disbanding his troops, busting the MC back to foot soldier, and kicking him over to Ise (a more remote province I think?).

Turns out this is part of Nobuna's strategy. Now we're introduced to the final member of the Oda family's 4 great generals (Katsue, Niwa, and Mitsuhide are the other 3), Takigawa Kazumasu. When Oda was forced to retreat due to the Azai-Asakura forces last chapter, Kazumasu should have sent help, but she didn't. However, there's no way Nobuna can ask about this without damaging their relationship, so instead, she's using the MC. Plus, with him no longer general of an army, if he goes and asks about it it won't be "accusations of disloyalty" and "demanding answers", so he'd be able to get answers without souring the relations between Nobna and Kazumasu.

MC goes to Ise and gets caught by pirate, all of them girls. He gets brought to a ship where he faces Kuki Yoshitaka (the 27 year old 2nd in command who seems to have a complex about being a Christmas cake) and Kazumasu (a sadistic little girl who looks identical to the head miko in Kyoto). Kazumasu doesn't want to send forces to help against Takeda (her skin'll get ruined on land?) but relents if the MC does a few things. There's an island nearby that's been taken over by foreigners (particularly a church knight patrolling the beach), and the MC has to chase him out. The MC goes and manages to last against the knight thanks to super dodging skills (I think the knight eventually tired out due to having to fight in heavy armor). Then a young bishonen priest comes from the island and calms the situation down (The knight is revealed to be a beautiful Italian girl with red hair then). I can't figure out what their romanji names are from the Chinese, so I'll just call them Priest and Knight for now. Turns out the whole thing was a misunderstanding: The supposed fortifications and defenses on the island turns out to just be decorations the Europeans put up for a Christmas celebration, and the Europeans thought that Kazumasu's people were marauding pirates coming to kill them all. With the misunderstanding cleared (plus it turns out they knew Francis the nun, and with news that Nobuna is not oppressing Christians, they decide to join Oda's side).

With that clear, Kazumasu will send aid against Takeda on one last condition, she gets to ask the MC one question while touching his head after they win (it's revealed earlier that Kazumasu has the power to make someone tell the truth by touching them on the head, which she demonstrated by making Kuki admit that she actually likes young men and is something of a shotacon earlier).

On the battle, Takeda's focused her forces to take down Matsudaira first, and she's being badly outmatched thanks to Takeda's navy coming down the river. The navy gets checked by Kazumasu's pirate forces however, and the MC units with Matsudaira to try and repel Takeda. The MC tries to draw on history to figure out how they can force the Takeda forces back, and the only things he remember is that Takeda Shingen supposedly died due to sickness, which forced them to retreat. There's also rumors that he was instead assassinated. The MC decides to go incognito to Takeda's camps to figure it out. Kazumasu joins him (she's apparently also a ninja).

They reach a hot spring and decide to disguise themselves as local hunters that stumbled across it. Meanwhile, Shingen Takeda got out of her armor, had her twin sister pretend to be her, and went off incognito to get a good soak in at the hot springs. The MC with Kazumasu meets Takeda and their cover was blown rather quickly.

They don't fight though, mostly due to the MC being mesmerized by Takeda's rather impressive bust. They talk quite a bit, and under the influence of "I have boobs, you must obey", the MC reveals Takeda's future, how she dies due to sickness or assassination, but since she doesn't look sick at all...

Takeda hears this and decides to conquer her fate with her own power. That night, she fully prepared herself for an assassination, which came in the form of that guy who tried to assassinate Nobuna via sniping in volume 3. She blocks the bullet with an iron fan and catches him with her sword.

Since Takeda did not die, the Takeda forces did not retreat and Matsudaira is in trouble. She gets outmaneuvered at every turn and the Takeda cavalry wrecks her forces. She eventually gets pushed out of her territory, but I'm not entirely sure about the events there...

I think it ends with the MC and co preparing to defend Mino, which is Takeda's next target? There's also some preparations about getting Kazumasu's cannons for the defense? Nobuna and her forces are busy fending off Azai-Asakura elsewhere, so the MC and his group are mostly on their own...

And that's the last of my summaries, period. Unless someone can find me a Chinese translation of the rest of volume 5 (I can't find anymore on the lightnovel Chinese site), this is as far as I read for Oda Nobuna no Yabou. I'll be eagerly awaiting any further spoilers, summaries, or actual translations eagerly with everyone else.

thx mate, damn shame the Chinese trans isn't further along

chad001 · 2012-07-26, 01:42

Quick note: everyone remember to rep Mecha for this. I almost forgot myself...

wagnerr · 2012-07-26, 01:50

no offense iam not nobuna LN fan.
the opinion would not objective or quite random

deleted previous comment not now perhaps

Fallen3dge · 2012-07-26, 02:30

Spoiler for nobunaXsagara fans:

chad001 · 2012-07-26, 02:33

Other than the unnecessary spoiler tag, I totally agree. Though, everytime I think of her tsun side, I think of her face when she sees Sagara on Katsuie. GOLD Honestly, that face, I don't know what it's called, but damn if it isn't hilarious.

Mechatrill · 2012-07-26, 02:39

After some searching, I did find that the translation of volume 5 into Chinese is still ongoing.

Someone's apparently translating ch 5 to Chinese. That person is posting it snippet by snippet (at the rate of a few every day) on a blog, I think...

Anyways, the latest was posted just today, so there's a pretty good chance that you'll be seeing my summary of the rest of vol 5 sooner or later. I don't think I'll write a summary until the volume is finished though, and with how long the last 2 chapters probably are, it might be best to expect later as opposed to sooner...

It's still encouraging news though. Thought I'd share this with you guys.

chad001 · 2012-07-26, 02:40

Great to hear it, thanks Mecha!

Om Nerabdator · 2012-07-26, 02:41

Not many plp who can translate japanese does summarys for some reason,the only one I know of is n@mon.

chad001 · 2012-07-26, 02:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om Nerabdator

Not many plp who can translate japanese does summarys for some reason,the only one I know of is n@mon.

Maybe it's cause most translators are already working on translating whatever it is that you want summarized.

BTDK · 2012-07-26, 03:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzhk

Actually, Chinese translations appear to have reached Volume 7.
http://xs.178.com/585/index.shtml

Quick note to others: I don't have time to read this series yet, so don't expect spoilers from me.

Actually, it's incomplete.

I have done volume 4 in chinese too.

whsie · 2012-07-26, 03:22

For Chinese translations, Volume 5 is up to chapter 5. Volume 6 is up to chapter 7 (almost done). Volume 7 at chapter 3. Volume 8&9 haven't started yet.

zgmf-x19a · 2012-07-26, 03:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

Look, the issue is that you need a translator who's interested in working on the series. The biggest appeal to most of the translators at B-T is one thing: "Hm, I like this series. I'll work on this." Votes don't matter that much. I don't think IS got more than 60 votes when we first started on it in the first place.

Infinite Stratos was awesome and it does remind me that I have to read the light novels

Let's hope that Oda Nobuna no Yabou gets the same treatment

Let's hope that there is a translator who likes Oda Nobuna no Yabou
*stares at Teh_Ping*
*uses the force* Teh_Ping you will translate Oda Nobuna no Yabou

Sumeragi · 2012-07-26, 04:06

Apparently people are not interested in the illustrations. Oh well, if there is no demand, I suppose it is no use bothering to post them.

chad001 · 2012-07-26, 04:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Apparently people are not interested in the illustrations. Oh well, if there is no demand, I suppose it is no use bothering to post them.

Whoa, no one said we're not interested, it's just... 5AM in the morning and I've spammed out over 40 posts in the past 24 hours alone so... yeah, I figured I should shut up for a few hours...

You know what you should do though? Post them in the social group archive, that would be much appreciated, and add more appeal to the group.

Also, update: WE BROKE 60! Keep it up guys, let's break 100!

Sumeragi · 2012-07-26, 04:14

I decline, since I have to make a separate album with my account.

chad001 · 2012-07-26, 04:16

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. You know what? Keep uploading them, I'll save them all and do it myself. Or, more likely than not, Reaper's going to have the same idea and beat me to the punch. That's what he's been doing anyways...

2012-07-26, 01:50	Link #387
wagnerr philosopher stone power Join Date: Jul 2012	no offense iam not nobuna LN fan. the opinion would not objective or quite random deleted previous comment not now perhaps Last edited by wagnerr; 2012-07-26 at 02:25.

2012-07-26, 02:30	Link #388
Fallen3dge Darkest Light Join Date: Feb 2012	Spoiler for nobunaXsagara fans: the way she becomes so dere for him is quite funny. Understandably, he's still a little fearful of her __________________

2012-07-26, 02:41	Link #392
Om Nerabdator ~Maru~ Join Date: Mar 2008	Not many plp who can translate japanese does summarys for some reason,the only one I know of is n@mon. __________________

2012-07-26, 01:35	Link #384
wagnerr philosopher stone power Join Date: Jul 2012	i despised close incest and iam not seeing the protagonist marrying children (nobuna and others).IMO so i think he ending up virgin no offense quite heavy though

2012-07-26, 01:42	Link #386
chad001 Happy-End Totalitarian Join Date: Jan 2009	Quick note: everyone remember to rep Mecha for this. I almost forgot myself...

2012-07-26, 02:33	Link #389
chad001 Happy-End Totalitarian Join Date: Jan 2009	Other than the unnecessary spoiler tag, I totally agree. Though, everytime I think of her tsun side, I think of her face when she sees Sagara on Katsuie. GOLD Honestly, that face, I don't know what it's called, but damn if it isn't hilarious.

2012-07-26, 02:39	Link #390
Mechatrill Senior Member Join Date: May 2012	After some searching, I did find that the translation of volume 5 into Chinese is still ongoing. Someone's apparently translating ch 5 to Chinese. That person is posting it snippet by snippet (at the rate of a few every day) on a blog, I think... Anyways, the latest was posted just today, so there's a pretty good chance that you'll be seeing my summary of the rest of vol 5 sooner or later. I don't think I'll write a summary until the volume is finished though, and with how long the last 2 chapters probably are, it might be best to expect later as opposed to sooner... It's still encouraging news though. Thought I'd share this with you guys.

2012-07-26, 02:40	Link #391
chad001 Happy-End Totalitarian Join Date: Jan 2009	Great to hear it, thanks Mecha!

2012-07-26, 03:22	Link #395
whsie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle and Houston... sleeping in a car.	For Chinese translations, Volume 5 is up to chapter 5. Volume 6 is up to chapter 7 (almost done). Volume 7 at chapter 3. Volume 8&9 haven't started yet.

2012-07-26, 04:06	Link #397
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	Apparently people are not interested in the illustrations. Oh well, if there is no demand, I suppose it is no use bothering to post them.

2012-07-26, 04:14	Link #399
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	I decline, since I have to make a separate album with my account.

2012-07-26, 04:16	Link #400
chad001 Happy-End Totalitarian Join Date: Jan 2009	Oh yeah, I forgot about that. You know what? Keep uploading them, I'll save them all and do it myself. Or, more likely than not, Reaper's going to have the same idea and beat me to the punch. That's what he's been doing anyways...