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Old 2008-10-25, 02:32   Link #10301
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DIVIDED DESTINY
Two People, Two Paths

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Previous Installments
-Intro
-Chapter 01
-Chapter 02
-Chapter 03
-Chapter 04
-Chapter 05
-Chapter 06
-Chapter 07
-Chapter 08
-Chapter 09
-Chapter 10
-Chapter 11
-Chapter 12
-Chapter 13
-Chapter 14
-Chapter 15

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Okay, I need to ask you guys something. I was thinking over chapter one of my fic, and for some reason this little detail has been bugging the heck out of me all day.

Originally I planned to have Nanoha be fifteen when she meets up with Fate, Yuuno, and Hayate again, to keep true to the timeskip in A's. However, lately I've been wondering if maybe I should push her age up to seventeen, since that seems to be a common age for her in AU fics and fics focused on her pre-StrikerS anyway.

I'm not totally sure. Fifteen would be easier to write in accordance to canon, I think, but seventeen seems really popular by fanfiction standards. What do you guys have to say?
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I'm wondering how canon affects this story? By which I mean, Nanoha's had a very different life between the end of A's and the start of your story than canon Nanoha did. By definition that's going to affect the course of her life, what she's done in her career, the kind of bonds she formed with her friends, the kind of growing-up she did. It may very well affect the course of other people's lives as well (Fate's especially--given how emotionally dependent she was on Nanoha at that age, having Nanoha not be the always-strong Ace and having to cope with serious life-changing problems of her own is going to inevitably affect what Fate did, though probably tightening her family bonds with Lindy, Chrono, etc.).

So unless you're going to bring in elements of the StrikerS plot which occur at a certain time based on the actions of third parties unconcerned with Nanoha (i.e. Jail's not likely to change his schedule just because one girl lost her ability to cast magic) and you feel really uncomfortable with changing that, then anything that happened in-series after you insert your major changes is irrelevant.

Therefore, what you should do is consider what your plotline requires. Is there a scene where Nanoha or one of the main cast needs to be driving a car? Better make them sixteen or older. Is it important that they NOT be worried about college entrance exams (or TSAB career-path examinations?)? Make them younger. My preference as a reader is that the story be as consistent and internally logical as possible, so if you're asking for reader votes, I'd have to go with "whatever best suits your story and your personal tastes." Sounds corny, I know, but there it is.

Unless, of course, I'm commenting about the wrong fic entirely.
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And... ironic i make an update of wolves.

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It's a tie, but B was ahead when I wrote this so tacobell it is :P

Laith Cameo this time :P

Spoiler for Pornstar!Vivio pt. 12:

Great as always but Im still waiting for Syn to find out Vivio's job

also..

@Satashi: After Watching Ep. 2 of Rosario + Vampire Capu2 (go watch it if you haven't seen it) I've now got an Image of Fate and Tiana duking it out Fate Kicking and Tiana wielding giant bludgeoning weapons (with spikes)
When are you going to Update Vampire!Fate?

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Old 2008-10-25, 03:43   Link #10302
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And... ironic i make an update of wolves.
Nice we get some Fate action. Though what does she want with Nanoha? And what happened to Zafira after his disappearance?
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And after my last little outing, here's another segment, a little more active than the last one.

Here goes nothing again!

@wanwan1203: And yes, this is the continuation.
@markesellus: And no, it isn't Hayate, but she'll have her turn...

The ZENITH Project

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It's a bit shorter than the last one, since I can't hold action very long...Comments on how to improve would be most appreciated

And as I said before, Character Guides will come out later...

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Xena, away.
Another OC, I can't wait for the information on them. Geez, Ashcroft is BA! Though it would have been funny if Cecile actually won, it would be a low blow on his ego. I wonder what that appointment is to take all day?
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Old 2008-10-25, 04:23   Link #10303
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Hahaha. Sounds like him, even though I thought Caro and Voltaire had a more PriestessXDragonGod relationship if anything...

Still, it's FIERY.

Poetic AX much?

To be honest, though, it still needs a little improvement...I could only feel his kingliness part of the time.

For one important thing, "That does not mean" isn't exactly very fitting someone of his stature...and so on. In short: it's mostly the tone. He doesn't sound very great, or not as great and majestic as he's supposed to be.

If you might want a bit more comments, I'll reserve that for a PM!
That won't be necessary. That was one of those late-night-ideas-I-don't-care-about-projects.
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Old 2008-10-25, 09:09   Link #10304
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It's a tie, but B was ahead when I wrote this so tacobell it is :P

Laith Cameo this time :P

Spoiler for Pornstar!Vivio pt. 12:

"... If you asked..." That line is a clasic!
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Old 2008-10-25, 10:13   Link #10305
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Just another little something. This one was going to be the VMOT! segment for "How Reputations Are Made"--I figured that a long omake would go well with a shorter story for balancing's sake...but it goes better here.

You know, Vivio would definitely have problems if someone said to her, "You should be more like your mother!"

Spoiler for Do As Your Mother Would Do:

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Old 2008-10-25, 10:23   Link #10306
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Just another little something. This one was going to be the VMOT! segment for "How Reputations Are Made"--I figured that a long omake would go well with a shorter story for balancing's sake...but it goes better here.

You know, Vivio would definitely have problems if someone said to her, "You should be more like your mother!"

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LOL

You should post it for "How Reputations Are Made" too, don't let people miss this

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Old 2008-10-25, 10:50   Link #10307
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Which should be his weapon of choice?
A)Assault Rifle
B)Missile Launcher
C)Sniper Rifle
D)Railgun
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Old 2008-10-25, 11:53   Link #10308
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Which should be his weapon of choice?
A)Assault Rifle
B)Missile Launcher
C)Sniper Rifle
D)Railgun
It would be a bit easier to follow if no more than one character had dialogue per paragraph...but that aside, if Johannes is going to be fighting monsters in a sewer, let's go with B. Explosions in contained areas with possibly unstable ceilings and possible gas leaks so clearly fit MGLN.
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Old 2008-10-25, 14:21   Link #10309
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Just another little something. This one was going to be the VMOT! segment for "How Reputations Are Made"--I figured that a long omake would go well with a shorter story for balancing's sake...but it goes better here.

You know, Vivio would definitely have problems if someone said to her, "You should be more like your mother!"

Spoiler for Do As Your Mother Would Do:
Lol, that was gold. Especially the last line, no wonder she only mentioned Fate.
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Which should be his weapon of choice?
A)Assault Rifle
B)Missile Launcher
C)Sniper Rifle
D)Railgun
Wow they killed Alto, does that mean the Terrans are going to try and kill Vita when they have the chance? Probably, but I doubt Nanoha and Co. are going to let that happen. Hmm, missiles sound big, explosive, and powerful... B
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Old 2008-10-25, 14:28   Link #10310
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Just another little something. This one was going to be the VMOT! segment for "How Reputations Are Made"--I figured that a long omake would go well with a shorter story for balancing's sake...but it goes better here.

You know, Vivio would definitely have problems if someone said to her, "You should be more like your mother!"

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Heh.
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I'm wondering how canon affects this story? By which I mean, Nanoha's had a very different life between the end of A's and the start of your story than canon Nanoha did. By definition that's going to affect the course of her life, what she's done in her career, the kind of bonds she formed with her friends, the kind of growing-up she did. It may very well affect the course of other people's lives as well (Fate's especially--given how emotionally dependent she was on Nanoha at that age, having Nanoha not be the always-strong Ace and having to cope with serious life-changing problems of her own is going to inevitably affect what Fate did, though probably tightening her family bonds with Lindy, Chrono, etc.).

So unless you're going to bring in elements of the StrikerS plot which occur at a certain time based on the actions of third parties unconcerned with Nanoha (i.e. Jail's not likely to change his schedule just because one girl lost her ability to cast magic) and you feel really uncomfortable with changing that, then anything that happened in-series after you insert your major changes is irrelevant.

Therefore, what you should do is consider what your plotline requires. Is there a scene where Nanoha or one of the main cast needs to be driving a car? Better make them sixteen or older. Is it important that they NOT be worried about college entrance exams (or TSAB career-path examinations?)? Make them younger. My preference as a reader is that the story be as consistent and internally logical as possible, so if you're asking for reader votes, I'd have to go with "whatever best suits your story and your personal tastes." Sounds corny, I know, but there it is.

Unless, of course, I'm commenting about the wrong fic entirely.
Well, I know in chapter one Nanoha is riding a motorcycle with one of her friends holding on to her for dear life, though there are plenty of cases in anime/manga where characters that are fifteen or older somehow own motorcycles, so I don't think that qualifies a major shift in her age for her to own and operate one. However, I know the epilogue opens up with the introduction into StrikerS, which is why I want to stick as close to canon as I can while still keeping it AU.

...

That made no sense, right?

I guess my idea here is not so much that the story is a drastic change for Nanoha as a character and her fate, but more of a different series of events that happened to her between A's and StrikerS after her injury. That was my thought process while I was mapping out the basics of the plot, and it's something that I really want to stay true to.

So, in a nutshell, that's why I originally wanted her to be fifteen.

(I realize there's still the plothole of who saved Subaru while Nanoha was off shooting a gun, but I digress.)
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Old 2008-10-25, 19:02   Link #10312
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Well, I know in chapter one Nanoha is riding a motorcycle with one of her friends holding on to her for dear life, though there are plenty of cases in anime/manga where characters that are fifteen or older somehow own motorcycles, so I don't think that qualifies a major shift in her age for her to own and operate one. However, I know the epilogue opens up with the introduction into StrikerS, which is why I want to stick as close to canon as I can while still keeping it AU.

...

That made no sense, right?

I guess my idea here is not so much that the story is a drastic change for Nanoha as a character and her fate, but more of a different series of events that happened to her between A's and StrikerS after her injury. That was my thought process while I was mapping out the basics of the plot, and it's something that I really want to stay true to.

So, in a nutshell, that's why I originally wanted her to be fifteen.

(I realize there's still the plothole of who saved Subaru while Nanoha was off shooting a gun, but I digress.)
Multiple plotholes, actually--since Subaru's entire character is based off the concept of how she's trying to be like her hero Nanoha (including how she ends up in disaster-relief work to save people just like she was saved). In addition, the downpowered Nanoha wouldn't be an air-combat instructor, and she probably wouldn't assume the role of captain of the Stars team in RF6...though that's debatable depending on whether her combat ability is so impaired by the power limit that she can't make it up with competence (this Nanoha's relationship with Tia, on the other hand, suddenly opens up entirely new doors of interest; if a Nanoha with barely any magical capacity can function as an effective Center and team leader it certainly opens up new ground in dealing with Tia's inferiority complex). None of this, though, has any relevance to your story unless you want to lay any groundwork for StrikerS in it.

That being said, if you want her to be fifteen, then make her be fifteen. Tell the story you want to tell. That's pretty much what everyone, including me, has been saying.
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Multiple plotholes, actually--since Subaru's entire character is based off the concept of how she's trying to be like her hero Nanoha (including how she ends up in disaster-relief work to save people just like she was saved). In addition, the downpowered Nanoha wouldn't be an air-combat instructor, and she probably wouldn't assume the role of captain of the Stars team in RF6...though that's debatable depending on whether her combat ability is so impaired by the power limit that she can't make it up with competence (this Nanoha's relationship with Tia, on the other hand, suddenly opens up entirely new doors of interest; if a Nanoha with barely any magical capacity can function as an effective Center and team leader it certainly opens up new ground in dealing with Tia's inferiority complex). None of this, though, has any relevance to your story unless you want to lay any groundwork for StrikerS in it.

That being said, if you want her to be fifteen, then make her be fifteen. Tell the story you want to tell. That's pretty much what everyone, including me, has been saying.
Well, actually, at the end of the story...

Erm, well. I won't give anything away... if you want to know exactly what I have in mind, PM me, please?

And, on another note, I completed the first chapter of Bless the Broken Road... HUZZAH! This chapter also included two characters from Triangle Heart, Kuon and Alisa Bannings. My characterization for them is mainly by ear, since I have no access to them in the games...

Spoiler for Bless the Broken Road: Collision Course:


Originally I didn't have the flashback of Kuon being found by Nanoha and becoming Fiasse's familiar, but I figured I could just put it in and save myself from questions about how Nanoha was capable of supporting a familiar.

Feel free to rip into this however you see fit. Chapter 2 will be out soon, hopefully.
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I liked the chapter, I liked Kuon interaction with Nanoha a lot. The idea of Nanoha with a motorcycle appeals to me a lot. Its sounds so bad ass. And it is a good way to feel like you're flying. As for the characterization of Alisa (Arisa? meh ), I'm a little confused. Wouldn't she know Japanese because she went to school with Nanoha and Suzuka there? or is this another AU factor? She seems a little OoC compared to how she is in MGLN and A's. Anyways, this mission to Earth sounds interesting for Fate and Co. I look forward to seeing Kyouya and Miyuki, as well as some action with Tiore Crystera’s journal and the secret of the Forgotten Song.
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I liked the chapter, I liked Kuon interaction with Nanoha a lot. The idea of Nanoha with a motorcycle appeals to me a lot. Its sounds so bad ass. And it is a good way to feel like you're flying. As for the characterization of Alisa (Arisa? meh ), I'm a little confused. Wouldn't she know Japanese because she went to school with Nanoha and Suzuka there? or is this another AU factor? She seems a little OoC compared to how she is in MGLN and A's. Anyways, this mission to Earth sounds interesting for Fate and Co. I look forward to seeing Kyouya and Miyuki, as well as some action with Tiore Crystera’s journal and the secret of the Forgotten Song.
On Alisa:

She never appears in MGLN or A's; she's Triangle Heart only, though Arisa was based off her. In the original game she was a ghost who hated the world but still befriended Nanoha... in this story she's Nanoha's closest friend in England, so her knowledge of Japanese is limited.

I had fun with the Miyuki/Kyouya bit. XD
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I know I'm double-posting, and I apologize... but it's for a good reason! I have something new for you guys, especially for all of you from chat...

A Lutecia/Vivio one-shot! Post StrikerS, Vivio is 13 and Lutecia is 17. They might be OOC, but I'm not sure. I think they're good.

Spoiler for Never Been Kissed:


I might try putting it on FF.net... just to see the reviews I'd get.
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And, on another note, I completed the first chapter of Bless the Broken Road... HUZZAH! This chapter also included two characters from Triangle Heart, Kuon and Alisa Bannings. My characterization for them is mainly by ear, since I have no access to them in the games...

Spoiler for Bless the Broken Road: Collision Course:


Originally I didn't have the flashback of Kuon being found by Nanoha and becoming Fiasse's familiar, but I figured I could just put it in and save myself from questions about how Nanoha was capable of supporting a familiar.

Feel free to rip into this however you see fit. Chapter 2 will be out soon, hopefully.
Many happy smiles. It does what prologues are supposed to do: introduce the setting and characters (particularly useful--I've nothing but the slightest casual knowledge of Triangle Heart 3 so I have nothing to go by, so I'm glad to get some background here so I know what I'm doing), start to assemble the pieces, and introduce conflicts to come. One possible criticism is that there's very little introduced of the true "plot" beyond the threatening message and the ominous TSAB mission, but the truth is that that isn't the "hook" for drawing in readers in this prologue, but the AU Nanoha--the instant you put a gun in Nanoha's hand, that becomes the attention-grabbing teaser, and it works.

The flashback with Kuon works, though I'm not sure if it works where it is; that is, it's a strongly emotional scene showing both Nanoha's kindness and worry for others (actually nice--it helps to show that her fundamental spirit hasn't been destroyed by what happened to her--that this isn't a "Dark Nanoha" story despite her gunslinging) and the foundations of her relationship with Kuon, but you've just added it on as a scene where it would work better as an insert or flashback either following Kuon's introduction or at some point where the tie between the two of them is relevant to the storyline.

(nb: Why do I keep wanting to call Kuon, "Kyon"? )

Obviously, I'm also interested in what caused the Nanoha/Fate split, why Fate was so hurt by it, and what'll happen between them in the future. Thus in this prologue you've defined three separate conflicts or subplots (blast it, I know there should be a word for what I mean but I don't know it...this is what I get for being a finance major and only needing two semesters of literature as an undergrad): a character-development storyline concerning the altered Nanoha, how she's changed, how she deals with the new herself; the plot storyline concerning the journal and the TSAB mission; and the relationship (whether friendship or romance) concerning Nanoha and Fate (and, by extension, Nanoha and her old TSAB friends and her family). That's a lot of ground to cover, so I'm hoping this story proves to be quite a long one to let it play out properly.

Anyway, good work. You've got me hooked, which is the purpose of a first chapter.
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On Alisa:

She never appears in MGLN or A's; she's Triangle Heart only, though Arisa was based off her. In the original game she was a ghost who hated the world but still befriended Nanoha... in this story she's Nanoha's closest friend in England, so her knowledge of Japanese is limited.

I had fun with the Miyuki/Kyouya bit. XD
Oh I get it. Makes sense to me now. Miyuki is pretty funny, I love how Kyouya has to keep her in check sometimes. Looking forward to the next chapter.

@Thread:
Are we allowed to post a fanfic about Triangle Heart? I mean it might have things about Nanoha or Fate, but mostly centered around Kyouya and Miyuki (no not Kyoudai-ai ). Or does that not count as Nanoha Fanfiction? <--- I probably won't get around to writing this, but it's still a question.
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I know I'm double-posting, and I apologize... but it's for a good reason! I have something new for you guys, especially for all of you from chat...

A Lutecia/Vivio one-shot! Post StrikerS, Vivio is 13 and Lutecia is 17. They might be OOC, but I'm not sure. I think they're good.

Spoiler for Never Been Kissed:


I might try putting it on FF.net... just to see the reviews I'd get.
I like it. I honestly like it. It's a new and different angle on possible pairings :3

Run with it maybe another entry or two, and see where it takes you. It couldn't hurt right?

Edit: OH SWEET!!

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