Kannagi - Episode 4 Discussion / Poll

[pparker]

Originally Posted by Westlo

Nope, Zange > Tsugumi!

I was forever smitten at Tsugumi's Boobs Victory Dance

(But secretly, Nagi is still the best.)

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by Sprite_Coke

First of all, I can't believe this series made it to the current popular series thread.
I mean I like the show, but there's other series that's worthy of being on here more than this show.

Anyways the comic in this series is great. I don't think I've actually laughed watching anime until now. The plot's somewhat dull though...., well at least's it's getting better especially with the introduction of Zange, though I can't see much else happening other than a jealous younger sister complex...

Apparently, the japanese otaku hordes disagree with you (see 2chan popularity reports) on what is "worthy". However, the mods at AS determine whether a series gets a subforum to itself based on traffic, # of posters, variety of content posted, etc. It has nothing intrinsically to do with being 'worthy' or 'popular'.

As for 'dullness', one of the interesting things to me about this series is its director and his ability to take what might be banal material and produce highly entertaining results both quirky and subtle.

[herbert]

Worthy? Then give a sub-forum to Tytania.

Kannagi deserves it more than anyone else except perhaps Toradora from this season.

[Vexx]

errrrr, lots of individual moments of fun in this episode 4 and I find the underlying "outside religion threat" interesting .... but the episode didn't seem particularly satisfying. I guess the "everyone moves in" in the space of 5 minutes was a bit off-putting. And wow, Zange is pretty unpleasant a personality... and what about Hakua? Does she have parents? What will they say about this "moving in"? Eh?

Just seems to have been a stumble of sorts in terms of story...

[Kaoru Chujo]

"Worthy" isn't the reason shows get separate forums. It's how many people post over what range of topics, as Vexx says. If "worthy" were the standard, I'd give forums to this, Kurozuka, and Mouryou no Hako. And other people would have their own choices.

I like Nagi best, with Tsugumi runner up. Zange is too harsh and two-faced for me, but her complexity may shine through as we go on. As for who Jin will "end up with," surely that's Tsugumi, if anyone. The goddesses are in another league. And he clearly likes his childhood friend already, from what he said to Zange by the riverside in this ep.

As for the story, good points from Vexx. Although realism is not exactly where this show is at, so everyone moving in just sounds like (excruciating) fun, to me. I think part of the dip in this ep was the slightly simpler and less active animation: as I mentioned earlier, eight key animators instead of the over twenty in the previous ep.　It took me three days to get around to rewatching...but when I did I was bowled over yet again.

[Duo Maxwell]

Originally Posted by Vexx

And wow, Zange is pretty unpleasant a personality... and what about Hakua? Does she have parents? What will they say about this "moving in"? Eh?

She has a father as far as I know, but you won't be able to see him soon.
I like the man.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by humbug23

End shot. Hinoue Itaru?! They sure are pulling out the stops, but LB!-ish Nagi isn't really to my taste...

I didn't know who that was until I searched her out: key animator and artistic director for the Key games Air, Kanon, Clannad, and Little Busters. "Pulling out all the stops," indeed. Yamakan knows some people.

It's a different Nagi, but a good one, I'd say. Here's a screencap. I guess the real thing will come out with the DVDs.

[d-one]

I'm not really sure if it because Yamakan since Itaru Hinoue also make a special picture for the third vol. of the manga

if you want to know, till vol.5 Kannagi manga always have some special illustration from different artist. for the list:

vol.1: Takeshi Takeuchi (Type-Moon, also illustrated for ep.2 of the anime)
vol.2: Ryukishi 07 (07th ekspansion, the creator of Higurashi and Umineko no Naku Koroni)
vol.3: Itaru Hinoue (Key, also illustrated for ep.4)
Vol.4: Kouga Yun (Gundam OO, Loveless)
Vol.5: Ume Aoki (Hidamari Sketch)

[pparker]

So, I made it because I couldn't find it... the victory dance:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...gumi-dance.gif

The animation is so superb. Pretty surprising how many different images are included in this, just for tiny movements of hair and whatever.

[Cinocard]

The dance will succumb to Zange when she finds out Zange is also aiming at Gin, lol

[rainnydaiis]

Zange chan is pure win ^^

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by rainnydaiis

Zange chan is pure win ^^

Soooooo, you like being tied up and having her foot pressed against your head.... or was it something else?

[monir]

Is it me, or is the opening song a bit addictive? Dance Nagi, dance!

[Vexx]

The opening tune has been stuck in my head all day today even though I've been running my MP3s non-stop on other tunes. The ED is even more entrancing....

guess I need to slurp the OP/ED off of a fansub as MP3s to stick in my player til the OSTs come out.

[Guardian Enzo]

Those trend-watchers buried deep in the bowels of Akihabara must surely have noticed that the theme of the season seems to be "moe nuns"...

[phishn37]

This show gets better and better! I'm really starting to like Nagi as a character. She's very boyish and lazy, and not moe-like at all, which is a nice break. Zange-chan is pretty creepy so far, but their story seems interesting and has promise. I also like Tsugumi more... at the start I thought she was just the obligatory caring childhood friend.

[monir]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Those trend-watchers buried deep in the bowels of Akihabara must surely have noticed that the theme of the season seems to be "moe nuns"...

Moe-nun can do only so much for a dying plot point. In the show index, all they do is talk, and then follow up talk, and then they talk some more. Even the fighting is done in talking. I'll beat you up. No you can't beat me. Yes, I'll beat you. Friends forever. Moe-nun is moe until she opens her mouth. Less talky, more wacking. Preferrably with a blunt object. Am I talking too much? Better question: am I making any sense?

The end.

[JMvS]

Originally Posted by Vexx

The opening tune has been stuck in my head all day today even though I've been running my MP3s non-stop on other tunes. The ED is even more entrancing....

guess I need to slurp the OP/ED off of a fansub as MP3s to stick in my player til the OSTs come out.

Amen to that... I keep playing the ED while reading or chatting

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by monir

Moe-nun can do only so much for a dying plot point. In the show index, all they do is talk, and then follow up talk, and then they talk some more. Even the fighting is done in talking. I'll beat you up. No you can't beat me. Yes, I'll beat you. Friends forever. Moe-nun is moe until she opens her mouth. Less talky, more wacking. Preferrably with a blunt object. Am I talking too much? Better question: am I making any sense?

The end.

Big Index fan, are we?

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by monir

Is it me, or is the opening song a bit addictive? Dance Nagi, dance!

And me. And thousands of other people, I suspect. I know I keep saying this, but Yamakan's got "it" as far as music and fitting movements to music are concerned. He directed, wrote, and did the storyboards and direction for both the OP and ED. And chose the music, of course. The syncopation of little Nagi-figure jumping off the platform near the beginning of the OP is amazing. Like the dances in the Lucky Star OP.

As for Index, she herself is as moe as they come. GJ by Iguchi Yuka and the character designer and animators. But I've just dropped the show. No hooks for me.

Just what thoughts and feelings nuns conjure up in the Japanese mind is still not clear to me. I mean Christian nuns. Darkness and magic? But moe nun could become a universal meme.