2012-03-16, 11:39 | Link #26201 |
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But America would be screwing itself by saying they made an IS which breaches treaty because treaty demands that the Silver and the findings with it, even while experimental, should be made known unless it is a technology researched in ISA.
Silver was stated to be developed outside of ISA and I'm pretty sure there is no American personal IS in ISA. if this is the case then Silver is illegal. |
2012-03-16, 11:41 | Link #26202 |
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That's where we should put in comparison. Breaking the rules or not, it's Americans. However, Gospel severed it's own core from Core network, effectively cutting it's ties with the world's I.S. management system.
American sealing the Gospel, saving their own ass in process, is damn wise decision.
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2012-03-16, 11:53 | Link #26206 |
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then the level of secrecy demanded of the students involved in the mission would've been meaningless. The mission itself being confidential would be reasonable but I'm sure they weren't allowed to even know about the gospel until Rin/Cecilia(forgot which, but I think it was Rin) had the presence of mind to ask what they were up against. Chifuyu gave them the standard "You squeal, we kill" kind of speech before handing out the specs.
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2012-03-16, 12:02 | Link #26208 |
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Thin like this
At the time of attack, information of Gospel is not well known. Not even the fact that it's an illegal design. When Cecilia asked, they're handed a secret design illegal as it may seems, a secret is a secret. Because Gospel was engaged mostly in I.S.A. airspace, so the case is kept confidential. To kept information from leaking further, they're sworn secrecy, possibly happens with the illegal fisher too. (possible blackmailed) To save their own ass, Gospel is sealed. No gospel = no treaty infringement, and only I.S.A. knew that America is trying to fuck up the status quo.
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2012-03-16, 12:06 | Link #26209 |
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but that breaks down in Icarus Wings when Gospel actually got away from the fight and ended up in the hands of Lyon. Lyon called them out on trying to take away his property. But when americans claimed ownership, he called them out on breaking the treaty.
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2012-03-16, 20:48 | Link #26213 | |
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Technically, he 'stole' it from America.... since it is part of America's property and he is possessing it illegally(note: being a personal IS pilots doesn't mean you own the core but it means that the country or organization loaned the core to you...and they wanted it back as soon as you are done with IS competition). It's like walking into a house or private property with nobody living in it and claim it as your own.... and you argued that because nobody is living in it anyway.....when the owner is merely away. The only exception is Houki because Tabane made it for her and no country has claim over her IS core yet..... Probably Japan will do it as soon as she is out of ISA....(Using the house/private property, Houki's IS core is a land which is slightly outside the territorial border and no nation has a claim over it yet....) edit: breaking a treaty doesn't means Lyon get the core but America being punished for it.... Countries such as China and other nations are more eager to 'punish' America by taking the core and give it to themselves. America sealing away the core is actually America way of pointing the middle finger at them saying: If I can't have it, I will make it useless by sealing the core away.... Moar edit: Going back to the property thingy example again, Assuming that breaking the treat = breaking contact/law which demands the owner to be in the property for at least a month to claim ownership over it, even if the owner broke the law, it doesn't mean the 'trespasser' get the property but the government took it back from him. The Trespasser then can buy the property from the government, then it will legally become his. But the process is most likely going to be a bid and the poor/Hobo Trespasser(Lyon) is going against powerful and rich people (Powerful nation such as China) who can buy/bribe/exert pressure on the government(UN) to giving them the property (core).... Even more edit: If the process done by Lyon is threatening/blackmailing America... then they still won't do it because the choice would be worst for them. > They had already broke a rule > by agreeing to Lyon's 'arrangement', it is putting them into bigger risk/disadvantage if the other nation found out about it (it means America broke two rules of the treaty: No core transaction/transfer is allowed) > The punishment for breaking second rule is probably a core taken away from them.... which means they will lose two cores instead of 1.... which is worst than just confess and lose one core instead.
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2012-03-17, 03:52 | Link #26216 |
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Lyon's tactic was more, "Sign it under me and no one will ever know it came from america. Even if they can somehow prove it, Gospel's database at this point is totally shot. No records of being in America will ever be found."
So it's a "make this situation complicated or let's jsut sweep it all under the rug" kind of deal. EDIT: Hmm... sounds somewhat villainous |
2012-03-17, 04:22 | Link #26218 |
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@ Eras
Actually, they have it: emotion. They are devoid of emotion and human instinct at first (similar to Laura). You could call it Pinocchio syndrome. @ Demi No offense, but are you serious? I actually reconsidered "getting Silent Zephyr for Madoka" because of this, and if we could compare, mine are even worse.
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2012-03-17, 04:30 | Link #26220 |
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Nope, no such thing.
What I meant is, normally such process included eliminating "immeasurable variables" i.e. emotion. However as the project is canceled, the babies are freed from emotion-suppressor and instead stimulated to redevelop such instinct.
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