2004-06-07, 22:42 | Link #461 |
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It is my firm belief that the Byakugan is superior to the Sharingan for the following reasons.
The Sharingan drains chakra at a great speed, and to take advantage of it fully (use sharingan skills) requires an even more enormous amount of chakra. Spoiler:
Viewing the chakra holes is beyond the abilities of the Sharingan, and as far as dispelling genjutsu, they both allow the user to see through the illusions. The sharingan allows the user to copy jutsus, while the Byakugan does not. However, in a fight, the sharingan user would be totally unable to copy any of the moves performed by the Byakugan user, as they would not have nearly the chakra control afforded by Gentle Fist (Also, most moves used by the Hyuuga are bloodline techniques). The Kaiten could stop most of the jutsus aimed at the Byakugan user, and if the Sharingan user were caught by the 64 Hands of Hakke, the fight would be over. |
2004-06-07, 23:16 | Link #462 | |
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I just wont take that answer as "Byakugan is superior to Sharingan" OR Vice Versa (maybe) AS IVE SAID BEFORE IT COMES DOWN TO OPINION. |
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2004-06-08, 01:44 | Link #463 | |
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2004-06-08, 02:54 | Link #464 |
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It seems quite evident that if two users of equal skill, one in Byukugan and one in Sharingan battle, neither of them can take one of the stronger attacks of either party and hope to survive the fight. So it comes down to how good their defensive/dodging abilities are.
And that seems to be independent of the bloodline. EPYON |
2004-06-08, 05:26 | Link #465 | |
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2004-06-08, 06:09 | Link #466 | |
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2004-06-08, 07:55 | Link #468 | |
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2004-06-08, 07:59 | Link #469 |
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Well they say it themselves that the byakugan is better than the sharingan in the series. I like byakugan more also. ¨
If i get it right Sharingan just copies movements and reads them? With byakugan you se trough things, get a 360 wiev and so on. |
2004-06-08, 09:15 | Link #471 | |
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2004-06-08, 09:37 | Link #472 | |
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Anyway, now that that's cleared, the point remains. The main advantage of the Hyuga clan is something that the Uchiha clan can obtain in a glance. Indeed they must have the occasion to copy a good jutsu (this one or another) to be able to increase the field of their abilities (without speaking of their own personal training of course). But I wouldn't call that so hard. The advanced Jyuken of Neji is awesome, the best in the whole series, no doubt about that. But to reach this level, Neji trained his Jyuken since the last 12~13 years. How many jutsu a Sharingan user can copy in this gap of time? Even if only a tenth of the jutsu copied are really useful, that would represent an insane increase of abilities. That's why on the long range, the Sharingan will always be better. |
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2004-06-08, 10:16 | Link #473 | |
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The reason I added the latter statement is because of this analogy: In the real world, there are those individuals who have a very specialized unique skill and they are extremely good at it, let us say someone like a Michael Jordan, an extremely well known athletic player who excels in basketball. We saw him try for baseball, it was pretty pathetic compared to what he was able to do in basketball. This can represent a Byukugan user. There are also those individuals, I'm sure you know a couple from school or other parts of life, who seem to do all kinds sports "pretty" well. However, they are rarely the best there is at one particular sport. This can represent the Sharingan user who chooses to copy a lot of Jutsu instead of focusing purely on the innate Sharingan exclusive abilities (Mangekyou Sharingan related) abilities, which I assume will probably take just as long as mastering the Jyukan abilities. More often than not, the ones who are specialized like Michael Jordan will be more successful because they can exploit their particular skill to the fullest whereas the player who is "pretty" good at all sports will have to choose one and be average in it. Just food for thought. My opinion is that Sharingan is better than Byukugan in Naruto world if I had to choose one. It is just that the analogy shows another plausible reasoning as well. EPYON |
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2004-06-08, 10:29 | Link #474 | |
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2004-06-08, 10:52 | Link #475 | |
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first off, a 13 years old guy can't be training for 12-13 years - somehow obvious, right? Then you can't assume that he was training the Jyuken for his entire life. Everyone has to start with simple basic training. this is not directly related to your post: One point that disturbs me is that most of the pro-sharingan fraction blames the byakugan fraction to use assumptions without any proof. But the reality is that the sharingan fraction's points are all assumptions. You say that much(10% is much) of the copied Jutsus are highly effective. Furthermore again you assume without any proff that the mange Sharingan can influence a Byakugan user with almost 360degree field of sight. and that the Byakugan will see eyes(Sharingan) in this mode. And if this isn't enough you claim the Amaterasu to be an instant kill Jutsu. You have no proof for all the statements(I'd rather call it assumptions). It is a fact that the Byakugan almost has a 360degree field of sight. It is a fact that the Byakugan User can see the chakra circulation system within the body. It is a fact that the Byakugan User can see through movements(not Jutsus) like a Sharingan user. It is a fact that the Sharingan User can copy Jutsus, use Amaterasu and mange Sharingan(but only very advanced Users). Nothing else is a fact and just based upon assumptions. And you know what? A discussion based upson assumptions isn't a discussion. It's just a mere clash of opinions trying to convince the other with force without thinking through other statements. [An example: itachi did run away from Jiraya, this is a fact. It's not a fact that he could win. But still you guys are assuming he could kick Jirayas ass. Not only you're assuming this, but you're also putting Amaterasu into this discussion, assuming that itachi could ignite Jiraya in one blink. Wtf is this? An assumption based upon an assumption?( I'm not saying that Jiraya can kick Itachis ass btw.)] Many of the sharingan fanboys in this thread did make a fool out of themselves. Plus some of you are very aggressive when someone doesn't share your opinion..or even dares to say that you're wrong/not right(!) I like the Byakugan more, but I don't consider it to be superior to the Sharingan. And that's how it should be. State your opinion, base it on facts and that's it. Again an example: "I like the Sharingan more, because it can copy Jutsus" Perfect! You just made a good point in this discussion! Your statement is based on a fact! "The Sharingan is superior to Byakugan, because it can copy Jutsus" Assumptions. Go back to school. |
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2004-06-08, 10:56 | Link #476 | |
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While the black fire does seem appropriate for a "Sun Goddess," Tsukiyomi is not exactly related to the "moon." One can argue that a dream world occurs at night and that connects to the moon somehow...but yah, I think the pairing and the eyes origin* are important. ^_^;; For your reference, the 3rd of the trio, Susawano (Storm God), was born from the nose...so that has no direct connection to Mangekyo Sharingan which is of the eyes. |
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2004-06-08, 11:01 | Link #477 | |
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Let's see Inane has been wrong in their tranlsations before (see Itachi Hokage level thread, in which you put up a crappy scanlation that was done by Inane) Or my friend who speaks on a daily basis Yes I was "Owned" because your source is wrong. Damn me, you owned me good, Damn that was a good own |
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2004-06-08, 11:08 | Link #478 | |
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As for I'm sure a Hyuga member has fought someone using the chakra scalpel at one point or another, they are Konoha's oldest clan after all. I don't think they got the reputation of being the deadliest hand to hand fighters overnight. I'm sure there have been many people to challenge them. Sure a Sharingan user with a Chakra scalpel could beat a Byakugan user, but to this point it's all speculation and hopeful wishing. As it stands right now, the Byakugan is better suited for close range, and the Sharingan is better suited for long range |
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2004-06-08, 11:14 | Link #479 | |
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2004-06-08, 11:23 | Link #480 |
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Hmm tough choice but i'd go for Byakugan. I'm not sure about the fully ability of Sharingan, but didn't Zabuza expose it's weakness? A mist style jutsu would limit the Sharingan but it wouldn't be a problem for the Byakugan cuz it can see through things. Oh, and Byakugan just looks so much scarier and cooler .
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