2012-05-25, 01:27 | Link #261 |
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I'm kind of wondering what DUCK's organization's goals are supposed to be. I mean, they sent Akira (and cute Tapioca <3) to investigate the aliens, but his bosses opt to not believe anything he says, as if they don't believe in their own agenda. This is just plain weird.
I really liked the scene between Natsuki and his dad. It parallels what's happening in Japan, where the youth is expected to pick up the slack of senior generations. But what the youth wants is to live their own future and not be tied down to the past, such as Natsuki leaving Enoshima. But even Natsuki has very complex feelings about it, because Enoshima is still his home. Anyway, a similar underlying theme was running throughout Nakamura's C - The Money of Soul and Possibility (which is something you guys should definitely check out if you haven't already!). Well, maybe it's a coincidence, but I really liked that scene because of that correlation. |
2012-05-25, 05:36 | Link #262 | ||
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I felt really bad for Sakura. All she wanted was for her family to get along on her brother's birthday, and Natsuki couldn't even grant her that. I understand his position, but he really acted like a dick to her here. Hopefully, he'll get over his issues soon. Quote:
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2012-05-25, 09:50 | Link #263 |
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Is this a Japanese cultural thing, or just this show specifically, where an adult male can slap a young girl (his own sister, even) with all his might and not suffer any consequences by the other adults that witnessed the event? I just don't get it. If I were Natsuki's father, he certainly wouldn't have been able to simply walk away from the situation. At least not until he regained consciousness.
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2012-05-25, 10:09 | Link #265 |
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I loved the way Akira dressed up in a raincoat and had an umbrella at hand as insurance against Haru!
' Natsuki...I don't blame him for being sour on the boat. It was his birthday, and he didn't get to decide for himself what he wanted to do. Other people went ahead with a plan he didn't want in the first place, and then they expected him to be happy about it. But slapping Sakura was terrible, and there's no way he should have been able to get away with it. Yuki's the only one who said anything about it to him. It should have been his dad. I really liked Haru's character development in this ep. It was fun seeing something other than super-cheerfullness from him. |
2012-05-25, 10:32 | Link #266 | |
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I'm seriously in anticipation of something great from this show now. |
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2012-05-25, 11:02 | Link #267 | ||
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Wow, who would have expected Tsuritama to depict such raw emotions!
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So, is there a real Enoshima dance? If not, will it become the next otaku tourist trend? A combined fishing and dancing holiday with a side tour of the Samuel Cocking Garden where Keito works. Keito Quote:
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2012-05-25, 12:58 | Link #268 | |
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One thing I love about this series is how supportive the characters are of each other (especially Ayumi! This guy has to get best end with Misaki!)
They all know Natsuki and his father have a bad relationship but try to get them to spend time together -- which kind of works until the inevitable explosion of everything Natsuki has wanted to say to him And here we see that dad has made it worse with how he's been handling some things I see a lot of people upset about the slap but if you keep in mind that Natsuki himself just received a slap from the only family he (feels) he has and whom he has been caring for and taken a role in raising Sakura -- then it doesn't seem so extreme Akira has to change at some point! Whether he stands aside on an order from DUCK and or actually lends them a hand I don't know but it will happen! And another unknown is Tapioca What could or even will she do? I'm thinking we could see something as wild as a transformation into another form like Coco I'm still picturing some huge scene with DUCK, triangles, mind controlled dancing fishermen, aliens, dragon, princess, shrine girls (i know you erika fans want it) and old man (how much does he know), and of course the fishing bros battling together (that includes Akira) Kate having a relation to or at least knowledge of the princess would explain a lot (why they've moved - welcomed in Haru without a question - being watched by DUCK) A little long wind there but I can't help but expect a great finish to this series It quickly became a favorite for me Quote:
I came across a blog of some people going there and doing the dance at the shrine and the enoshima don move on the beach lol Maybe it's gotten some people interested in fishing too And back to fishing -- how about Natsuki showing off that nice side casting! Takes a lot of skill Maybe in the end we will see him go on to become some sort of champion or at least fish more how he really wants |
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2012-05-25, 13:07 | Link #269 |
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I don't think I'd want to be your little sister. Not extreme to haul off and slap your younger sister with all your might, channeling all your anger and rage you feel towards your father and concentrating it in that one blow? I just don't understand how you can justify it.
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2012-05-25, 13:08 | Link #270 |
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Yui getting some nice fishing gear.
It wasn't cheap either.. Even Yamada got into fishing. Guess it's pretty contagious since everyone got hooked so easily. Looks like Haru was feeling a bit guilty about what happened last time. Group fishing trip was nice ^^
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2012-05-25, 13:25 | Link #271 | |
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Natsuki isn't an adult male. He's a teenage boy who smacked his sister when she was mouthing off about things she didn't understand. Violence between siblings happens, and though its not something I would condone, its more acceptable than if he was unrelated to her. Basically, he shouldn't have hit her, but I can totally understand why he did. How many years apart are Natsuki and Sakura anyway? 4, 5? Well, apart from hitting her, I'm firmly on Natsuki's side on this one. He's clearly been very upset for quite awhile; about his mothers death, his father dating a new woman, being torn up between his inheriting his family business and following his own dream. And now Sakura's laying the blame on him for her losing a wristband because his feelings finally burst out. This was a long time coming. Its just unfortunate for Sakura that it had to happen then.
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2012-05-25, 13:26 | Link #272 | |
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We saw Yuki develop positively but it is obvious Natsuki needs some development too. I am sure he will be sorry he hurt his sister (both emotionally & physically) he was just too angry & upset at the moment to realize he was wrong. Sometimes we need to cool our heads before things hit us. You can already see that it took Natsuki a moment to process his sister was missing when his father said she was not with him. That is because Natsuki couldn't think of anything but his anger. However when it hit him he showed concern for his little sister (who he obviously loves very much)
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2012-05-25, 13:33 | Link #273 | |
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I just got a different impression from that scene I think it was the break in tension Safely back on the boat Natsuki is relieved and everything would have been dropped except she yells at him for it He clearly feels bad and tries to calm her down but she keeps going and hurts him Yes it was related to their father but it came from his little sister the one person he never wants to be seen in a bad light by I'm guess I'm trying to say that though yes it was wrong I understand why he did it Does that make sense? I'm going on too much here Last edited by gianna; 2012-05-25 at 13:48. |
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2012-05-25, 14:24 | Link #274 |
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Eh, while I understand why Natsuki was super pissed off, it was a really dick move to hit a little girl (especially his own sister). Of course little kids can be annoying and I see how Natsuki just snapped and happened to lash out at poor Sakura, but still, he's 17(? I think) and she's in elementary school. Bad Natsuki, bad.
But I also understand why nobody did anything about it... It wouldn't have done any good. Natsuki had already brushed off Yuki and stomped away, nothing that his father or anyone could've done would have had any effect on him, it would have just made everything even worse given the tensions running so high. (Maybe Ayumi could've tried talking to Natsuki, I think he'd listen to Ayumi more than to his father... but I guess Ayumi didn't want to meddle in what is ultimately another family's private business.) Given how much Natsuki loves Sakura, I think it's safe to assume that he hates himself for what he'd done, and blames himself for her disappearence. I suppose he and his dad are going to have a talk sooner or later, but now it wasn't the time or the place. Even Haru, KY that he is, understood that. |
2012-05-25, 14:29 | Link #275 | |
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I think it could haunt him for quite some time, and I doubt that Sakura will ever forget this event. Even after she forgives him, the memory will still linger and color her feelings for her brother. In the early episodes she seemed the typical imouto who loved and admired Natsuki. I doubt she'll have the same unwavering devotion to him after the confrontation on the boat. I hope they don't take the easy way out here with a lot of mutual apologies, and everyone moves on unaffected. Given how unexpectedly powerfully this scene played out, I suspect it won't just be swept under the rug, but they do have only three (!) more episodes to go. I wonder if the two of them ever spent any time together mourning their mother's loss? Oh, and for a guy who wasn't going to teach Yuki anything, Natsuki sure taught him (and me) a lot about fishing strategy. I went back to look at that article with all the Enoshima photos that wandering-dreamer posted and pushed it through Google translate. I was puzzled by all the references to "snow" in the photo captions when there clearly wasn't any snow in the pictures. It suddenly dawned on me that these were references to Yuki, and that the references to "spring" were about Haru! One image from the show depicts Yuki with a caption about "snow" on the train platform.
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2012-05-25, 14:43 | Link #276 | ||
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Anyway, I come from an era when boys were taught that hitting girls was simply wrong. I guess it's just different these days when people feel Natsuki angrily slapping Sakura is acceptable and justifiable behaviour. Frankly, I doubt it's the first time he's slapped her like that. It looks more like it's his normal response when he doesn't like her attitude. Particularly since he's shown absolutely no remorse. Like Sakura said, Natsuki really is a jerk. Quote:
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2012-05-25, 15:02 | Link #278 | ||
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WHAT??? It's only 10 episodes?? I thought it would be 12 or at least 11... Nooooooooooo ;___; Damn you, Noitamina! Damn you! A while ago I listened to an interview with one of the producers, Minami Masae, and she mentioned that they'd been working on this project for... four years or so? (don't quite remember, but it was a long time) And it's over in only 10 weeks... uuu... Quote:
By the way, am I the only one who wondered what Akira was doing at Yuki's place when Misaki(?) called to ask Yuki about Sakura? |
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2012-05-25, 15:21 | Link #279 | ||
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I stand corrected. Thank you, LKK.
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What you say about Sakura's age makes a lot of sense, too, kuromitsu. It would be easier for her to move on than Natsuki.
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2012-05-25, 15:36 | Link #280 | |
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As for Coco, I believe she would be more distrustful than jealous. I still wonder why Haru was initially so scared of Akira. Did they have a previous run-in or could he simply sense his hostility towards him?
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