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If Ranka and Sheryl kept their character designs but switched roles in the plot, a lot of these people would be tearing Sheryl a new one right about now. I can just see it. Last edited by mechabao; 2009-01-08 at 04:28. Reason: fixed tags |
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2009-01-08, 05:30 | Link #1122 | |
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But the general character development is independent of a characters look. People love Sheryl because she is a great person and she and Alto fit together.
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2009-01-08, 16:12 | Link #1123 | |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbi...chool_massacre Seriously if a kiddo runs wild and starts to massacre the law will always wants to find out why did he do it. this means it will be checked what has influenced him/her to do such a behavior. As you bring it up. Video games like Doom, Duke Nukem or even Movies like Evil Dead got indexed or lost on brutality due bad influences on children. Back to Ranka: Quote:
btw. mechabao you are making a very interesting theory by switching the roles and the behaviors. By trying to image it in my mind I had the image of Kuran Seriously. It' s a bit hard to view but I am very intersted on how it would have impact on the viewers.
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2009-01-08, 17:57 | Link #1125 |
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Obviously look is important, but I admire Ranka's willingness to break out from Leon's and Grace's control and go out and find a possible co-existant between human and vajra..(she is the first one to think about co-existent...Sheryl and Alto are thinking about protecting remaining human beings on Macross Frontier...not saying they are wrong...)
[This following message is in no way of insulting Sheryl, just an analogy...plz ppl don't take it seriously on the following message] Well, saying ppl easily to forgive Ranka due to her look is as interesting as saying ppl like Sheryl because of her body. As I suggested Sheryl made a mistake in not going tho body check immediately after she got informed by Grace that she has a nasty virus in her body...since no one suggested that Sheryl made a bad, or not so good decision in not going tho body check...Now can I say that it was because of Sheryl's mature body so ppl let her off the hook in not going tho body check?? [Again this is just a response in Ranka's cutie-looking comment made by ppl in above....I just raised a counter example...not mean to go off-topic or to insult anyone or Sheryl..(geez I hope nothing bad happens...)] Just to state that I am not saying the above ppl's comment on Ranka's cutie-look-lead to-forgiveness is wrong or right...I just simply ask a similar question based on the comment made by ppl in above
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Hmmm... justavisitor, your comparison fails big time. Sheryl did do a check-up, if not immediately after being told, then just a while later. We do even get to see people analyzing the results (Klan and Michael, even). So...?
And Ranka broke out of Grace's control by leaving? Hello? You know the magnificent bastard was completely aware of everything Ranka and her little nii-chan did, don't you? You really think she'd have let her precious experiment go away like that if she didn't want her to?
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I was thinking about that too and I guess she came to the conclusion that her condition is drastically getting worse even without a medical check. If I remember the scene where she confronted Grace in the hospital Grace also told her the truth about the medical treating wasn't realling curing her but only stopped from spreading for a while. This was a shocking news for Sheryl so as smart as she would guess at this moment that she is going to die.
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2009-01-08, 19:30 | Link #1129 | |
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Moreover, after being told of her condition, Sheryl did immediately get a checkup. Or rather, Klan done it for her. Unfortunately for Sheryl, Klan's conclusion was the same as Grace. Then she later got her final check up from Luca, which of course, could not prevent her eventual death other than informing that she is temporarily capable of matching a fraction of Ranka's power. So at the end, yes, Sheryl thought she was taken care of, she had no reason to doubt Grace until her interactions with Ranka became fishy (call that a woman's instinct), and she confronted Grace only to find out about her imminent death. She was placed in a situation that was beyond her control, so what could she possibly do about it? Nothing. However, that did not matter, because with whatever power she could muster, she lived her fullest using that power. That is all it matters. Essentially, in the face of death, she simply laugh at it. - Tak
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2009-01-08, 19:33 | Link #1130 | |
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2009-01-08, 19:36 | Link #1131 | |
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Because I was not making a comparison, I was simply stating facts. - Tak
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2009-01-08, 20:04 | Link #1134 |
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Like I said before, both Sheryl and Ranka have been manipulated by Grace. Grace gets to manage them after all. So mentioning who is more manipulated or whatnot doesn't put one above the other. With the way the discussion is going right now, it seems that people are only beginning to realize this.
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And seriously there is a reason why all of those excuses fall flat on their face, and never hold up in court. And if children are playing those games then here is a question where are their parents? Shouldn't they like regulate or even read the stupid rating before they buy their child a violent game? Thank god the American government never takes these excuses seriously. 2) That's where we disagree; Ranka isn't a strong character with weaknesses she is a weak character with the potential to become a strong. Problem is people tend to ignore her glaring lack of character in favor of trying to make her into some kind of guiltless saint, using her age as an excuse for her behavior (never mind that Alto, Sheryl, Michael, and Luca are just one year older than her). Even though you never expected much out of her, problem is I did. When I saw Ranka I saw a little girl with the potential to grow into a good woman, but what happened? The shanked her character development in favor of the love triangle, since it seemed that every time her character developed it always led her away from Alto. |
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I Guess the difference between viewers (like me) is that to me, I don't think Grace tells everything about the disease to Sheryl..Besides Micheal and Klan aren't doctors...it was like someone only told Sheryl: you have the nasty disease in you!!! Then Sheryl, without fully understanding the nature of the disease, like would it pass to human, decides to pay Micheal and Klan a visit....
It would be funny if it goes on like this: Micheal to Sheryl: You better have a full check up, finding out if that disease is curable After check up Doctor: Not only the disease is impossible to cure, it could spread to human after staying in the host for xx years...did you contact someone today?? Micheal and Klan:........ Anyway, I don't find what Sheryl does is really wrong...it's just sometimes I find double standard towards Ranka and Sheryl...Ranka just got picked on everything while they let go of this "potentially fatal" mistake by Sheryl XD
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But then many disease shares the same symptoms..like back then in the period of SARS, some ppl thought they just had a cold, or fever...the thing is, if you know you have a nasty disease, if you value your friend or families, would you risk spreading it to them by paying them a visit?? Unless you know exactly what kind of that disease is and you know fully whether that disease can spread to human or not...the most safety measure is, after Grace showing that horrible face and telling that Sheryl had the v-type virus..Sheryl should confront doctor instantly (Was she in hospital anyway when she talked to Grace?? XD If it was, she took a long route to find Klan..) Now unless Grace tells her everything about the disease, or Sheryl knows the nature of v-type virus...I would say that she made a careless mistake..and like SARS...many ppl made a careless mistake, they thought it was a fever and cold and paid their friends a deadly visit...
But i won't judge Sheryl too hard because there are some differences between real world and anime
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