2011-12-29, 00:29 | Link #441 |
Princess or Plunderer?
Join Date: May 2009
Location: the Philippines
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I admit, my works aren't as stellar as the masters of the SOTM. I'm only participating because I don't want my Photoshop to rust. However, I was half-hoping that my works are at least recognized, that's why I joined SOTM.
That was not the case here. I did not feel that I was making any progress, and I feel left out when I get pitted against people that I can't beat in making signatures. So I quit. With that experience, I concluded that SOTM was too static. There are no newcomers who shock the experienced contestants with their works, and they often end up fighting each other over and over again for the next x months while the rest appear isolated from the competition. Now, I know your point Dist, but you don't have to rub it in that I suck at making signatures.
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2011-12-29, 01:13 | Link #443 |
Quietly Lurking
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Beneath the prodigious sky...
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^ We could actually do that, provided the mods aren't too busy (which they are most of the time ). A lot of other places that hold competitions have a beginner's and regular level.
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2011-12-29, 01:15 | Link #444 |
Princess or Plunderer?
Join Date: May 2009
Location: the Philippines
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But judging being a newbie through one's signature work is subjective.
Okay, fuck this shit. If the next SOTM will have less than 20 entries from 20 unique users, consider this contest already dead.
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2011-12-29, 01:18 | Link #445 |
Quietly Lurking
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Beneath the prodigious sky...
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The entrant chooses which one to join. Although with the lack of entrants recently, I'm not sure that we would have enough people to run two competitions. but if we need to manpower then I would be happy to volunteer to count votes or something
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2011-12-29, 01:32 | Link #447 | |
Constellation
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pearl of the Orient Seas
Age: 31
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my it's quite hot in here
I don't wanna butt in but things are kinda getting out of hand. oh well, debates will be.....debates Quote:
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2011-12-29, 01:41 | Link #448 | |
Quietly Lurking
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Beneath the prodigious sky...
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@Frailty and ahelo: I'm not sure how that helps? I don't think Tong was trying to say it's rigged, but rather the votes are biased by the reputation of the artist, friendships between the voter and maker, and other similar factors. And the moderators are only human after all, so I'm not sure that they wouldn't be susceptible to the same biases?
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2011-12-29, 02:48 | Link #449 |
Constellation
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pearl of the Orient Seas
Age: 31
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even if they don't mean the same, they sound pretty similar to me.
it's pretty hard to explain but friendship and other things like that aren't they just considered advantages on contests like these? isn't it a little..rude, to call it biased immediately?
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2011-12-29, 14:05 | Link #450 |
Formerly -> CMHerrera
Graphic Designer
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Around
Age: 30
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Debates getting heated..
How about we do this instead? If we go along with ahelos plan then.. The two who wins the SOTM of that month gets to pick the topic for next month and sits out? and gets to be the judges. So that someone else has a chance to win, when that month is over and they find a winner they get to enter again in the next month.
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2011-12-29, 20:33 | Link #451 |
Criminal Unrequitor
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Also considering the Winter Banner contest had 28 entries, I think there's enough interest for the people to join SOTM again. We just need to have more ideas to revamp the contest so that we can actually restart it in a way that won't go on hiatus quickly.
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2011-12-29, 21:59 | Link #453 |
Princess or Plunderer?
Join Date: May 2009
Location: the Philippines
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A setup similar to the International Saimoe League would be interesting.
Now we just need a diagnostic as to how many would be interested in joining SOTM. We can't just rely on the results of the banner contest since there might be more or less people interesting in joining the competition. Also, we need new rules, such as what happens if there are no staff around, if an interested user wants to join in the middle of the contest, and if a participant wants to leave the contest temporarily or for good.
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2011-12-29, 22:19 | Link #454 | |
~La-la Land~
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Seattle
Age: 37
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A new user joining in the middle? That doesn't really make sense. Is the user just new to the contest, or new to the forum? If new to the forum, then no, we've already seen repeat accounts made solely for cheating a vote. If new to the contest, I'm not sure what you mean by "middle". Are they trying to insert an entry when voting has already started? Doing that will just mess up all the votes. And why would a participant leave the contest early? I don't see how he or she can do that if the art is already submitted. At that point it's out of the creator's hands. Or, are you labeling the participant as someone involved with managing the contest? If so, then staff would just have to choose someone else.
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2011-12-29, 22:37 | Link #455 |
Princess or Plunderer?
Join Date: May 2009
Location: the Philippines
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I was planning for the SOTM to become a yearly event like the International Saimoe Tournament, with various revisions such as assigning January to October as the Preliminary Stage, and November and December as the Final/Semi-Final Stage for the competition.
There should be rules regarding interested users who want to join the contest on August or participants who wish to leave the contest on April, for example.
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2011-12-29, 23:41 | Link #457 |
Constellation
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pearl of the Orient Seas
Age: 31
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^to weekly?
knowing that most graphics artists have busy schedules from either school or work, entries will decrease dramatically a Monthly contest is good enough IMO
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2011-12-30, 01:18 | Link #460 |
Criminal Unrequitor
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Jul 2010
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I like the tournament idea but we also want new faces to join every now and then. And since we're going with the yearly tournament idea, why not turn it into a Fantasy League type of tournament and newcomers can just go in and out. And by the end of the year we accumulate who got the most points and that will be the winner.
Or like seasonal winners but the monthly contest can be shortened into three weeks. Not too much or too little.
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