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ZeroXSEED · 2013-11-13, 09:34

*WILD ZEROXSEED APPEAR*

*ZEROXSEED USE CITRUS SCALE*

*IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE*

Fireminer · 2013-11-13, 09:39

This is with I'm demanding!

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=122891

And above all, an ideal!

StratoSpear · 2013-11-13, 10:05

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED

*WILD ZEROXSEED APPEAR*

*ZEROXSEED USE CITRUS SCALE*

*IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE*

Danke.

Judging from this, I've gone into Orange for some parts.

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Originally Posted by Fireminer

This is with I'm demanding!

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=122891

And above all, an ideal!

"An ideal"?

Thing is, I can't really promise anything. If I were to go by fanon mindset, it's probably inches away from being alienated because for start, Athena's 90% OCs, Male and Female alike. Probably even 100% at this point.

Then there's Original Machines. Again, used by Male and Female alike, including the Minerva.

Original IS, everyone here's done it so probably nothing particular from Athena.

Frankly, I envy those of you who could come up with plots and ideas using the CCs. People actually read those and, you know, discuss. But putting original, even unfamiliar ideas on the table... is another matter.

Even with all the above points, I'm still not gonna budge from re-writing Athena(again.) that it goes full OC and AU so that's one thing you could count on. Though it may not be a thing that you'd be a fan of.

demino_hellsin · 2013-11-13, 10:31

But you're the only one i've seen push OCs with such conviction. Even hawk has moments of weakness.

Wait there's meister... But he's a secial case

Fireminer · 2013-11-13, 20:16

Tch... I'm looking forward to the day Athena got pupblished!

Thinking, anyone got the idea of a joining IS project between China and Pakistan? Similart to the JF-7 Thunder in real life.

Fireminer · 2013-11-13, 21:22

Have anyone here feel that themself is a bit hypocripsy in writing?

ZeroXSEED · 2013-11-13, 21:33

A lot

I deride filler parts of canon yet wrote a lot of 'mostly unneeded' character padding.

Rokumonsen · 2013-11-13, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Fireminer

Thinking, anyone got the idea of a joining IS project between China and Pakistan? Similart to the JF-7 Thunder in real life.

...or a joint IS project between India and Russia. Or a joint European IS as a successor to the Rafael Revive.

Fireminer · 2013-11-13, 21:40

So do I. But I do both of that at once.

But what is more, is I feel my writing self is too idealogist - quite a contradict with my real self. Kind of like I could only hope within my fic.

Fireminer · 2013-11-14, 02:15

Also, how about an crossover with this (The girls as seven deathly sins):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Übel_Blatt

ZeroXSEED · 2013-11-14, 04:59

@ Miner
Idealist, not idealogist.

Also, when creating crossover you have to take account whether you can combine the canon or scratch-built them from the ground-up and see if it fits your vision.

If Ichika is the hero in that series, you got an accidentally misogynistic story.

Even if you managed to convince your reader, you have to consider every aspect of cultural difference.

Rokumonsen · 2013-11-14, 05:13

Did anyone wonder why there are so many x-over fics that somehow doesn't make any sense? Like Harry Potter and Gundam Wing for example?

Fireminer · 2013-11-14, 05:14

Truth, but didn't scratch build is my field? And don't worry, I've got some really good cosulitants.

Say, who is your most trusting consultant?

ZeroXSEED · 2013-11-14, 06:18

@ Zero-2
Most crossover usually started with "I want character X to meet character Y/Character X in Y universe/etcetera". I have mentioned TLR stratos, right? This is that kind of story.

Like I said, one has to consider compatibility of canon. If not compatible, you pretty much have to stir and mix to find closest thing to ideal blend.

@ Miner
Up to you then

A wise word of Darkjak: "Don't try to eat more than your plate can hold"

Fireminer · 2013-11-14, 06:43

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED

@ Miner
Up to you then

A wise word of Darkjak: "Don't try to eat more than your plate can hold"

Of course, I wouldn't write it away now. I might even do it with Ao no Exorcist!

Fireminer · 2013-11-14, 07:31

Also, anyone have any idea of how old is Yamada? 25 at best, I presume.
And who add that "ZeroXSEED's Antics" tag?

demino_hellsin · 2013-11-14, 09:09

"So in the end. This is your answer? Houki."

"I'm sorry. No matter what happens, I'm still Shinonono Tabane's little sister."

"You're not her."

"But I've inherited her will! From the very start. She and I... we were the same. No matter how much I wanted to deny it. We're the same."

"No! You're different!"

"I SAID WE'RE THE SAME! The same ambition! The same single minded desire! The same mongering of ideals no matter who would suffer the consequences. Can't you see Ichika? My sister used even me, her own precious little sister to obtain her ideal machine. Even the closest thing she could call a friend and a lover was nothing more than a lab rat. It was no different between you and I. I loved you, but it wasn't you that I loved, it was the ideal image of you. No matter how much you had to suffer for it, I wanted you to be the man I envisioned. When my sister died, my blood screamed. At that time. I realized that no matter ho much I hate her, no matter how much I deny her, she is still my sister. And it's my duty as family to avenge her. This is fate Ichika, you can't fight it. This is how it should be. I realized it the moment she transferred control of the IS network to me. That's why I'm sorry. I'm taking back everything. Shenlong, Blue Tears, Rafael Revive, Schwarzer Regen, Uchigane Nishiki, Mysterious Lady, even your Byakushiki. All 467 IS will now avenge my sister. We will plunge it in her colors and paint the world she envisioned."

"Idiot. When you say all that, what can I say to retort? only, I have already decided it, the burden that you decided to carry because someone thrust it onto you. From the very start, it was already on my shoulders. This world is under my protection. Wether it's you, Tabane-san, or even my sister. Whoever it is. Even if you take back the IS, we still have power."

*Ichika pulls out a revolver and brings it to his temple.*

"Ichika!"

"I'll show you Houki. Even if fate has already been set in motion, we still have a hand left. The end is only the end if it has happened. This is just the start, and this is my ace. HENSHIN!"

*He pulls the trigger*

"Ichika you..."

*Ichika's transformation ends as a white armored being emerges, the motionless face of a machine. A human-wildcore hybrid. Kamen Rider*

"YOU KILLED MY SISTER!"

"I'm sorry Houki. Let's end this."

Fireminer · 2013-11-14, 09:35

Tch... What should I expect next? Second Koyomi? Now remember it, your Ichika kind of remind me about Haruto.

And have you watched Gaim ep.6? That Durian guy just freak me out, and even more when imagine Dan like that.

demino_hellsin · 2013-11-14, 09:46

How is Ichika like Haruto?

I personally feel he's somewhat different from any of the main riders.

Haven't seen 6 yet. Got problems to deal with so my net isn't fairing too well.

Fireminer · 2013-11-14, 09:51

They both have powers that could kill them if they changed.

You should watch it. Freaking... In a good way!

Oh, and who could have love Ichika's original, pathetic self?

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ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	@ Miner Idealist, not idealogist. Also, when creating crossover you have to take account whether you can combine the canon or scratch-built them from the ground-up and see if it fits your vision. If Ichika is the hero in that series, you got an accidentally misogynistic story. Even if you managed to convince your reader, you have to consider every aspect of cultural difference. __________________

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ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	@ Zero-2 Most crossover usually started with "I want character X to meet character Y/Character X in Y universe/etcetera". I have mentioned TLR stratos, right? This is that kind of story. Like I said, one has to consider compatibility of canon. If not compatible, you pretty much have to stir and mix to find closest thing to ideal blend. @ Miner Up to you then A wise word of Darkjak: "Don't try to eat more than your plate can hold" __________________ Last edited by ZeroXSEED; 2013-11-14 at 06:30.

2013-11-13, 09:39	Link #48362
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	This is with I'm demanding! http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=122891 And above all, an ideal!

2013-11-13, 10:31	Link #48364
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	But you're the only one i've seen push OCs with such conviction. Even hawk has moments of weakness. Wait there's meister... But he's a secial case

2013-11-13, 20:16	Link #48365
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Tch... I'm looking forward to the day Athena got pupblished! Thinking, anyone got the idea of a joining IS project between China and Pakistan? Similart to the JF-7 Thunder in real life.

2013-11-13, 21:22	Link #48366
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Have anyone here feel that themself is a bit hypocripsy in writing?

2013-11-13, 21:40	Link #48369
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	So do I. But I do both of that at once. But what is more, is I feel my writing self is too idealogist - quite a contradict with my real self. Kind of like I could only hope within my fic.

2013-11-14, 02:15	Link #48370
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Also, how about an crossover with this (The girls as seven deathly sins): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Übel_Blatt

2013-11-14, 05:14	Link #48373
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Truth, but didn't scratch build is my field? And don't worry, I've got some really good cosulitants. Say, who is your most trusting consultant?

2013-11-14, 07:31	Link #48376
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Also, anyone have any idea of how old is Yamada? 25 at best, I presume. And who add that "ZeroXSEED's Antics" tag?

2013-11-14, 09:09	Link #48377
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	"So in the end. This is your answer? Houki." "I'm sorry. No matter what happens, I'm still Shinonono Tabane's little sister." "You're not her." "But I've inherited her will! From the very start. She and I... we were the same. No matter how much I wanted to deny it. We're the same." "No! You're different!" "I SAID WE'RE THE SAME! The same ambition! The same single minded desire! The same mongering of ideals no matter who would suffer the consequences. Can't you see Ichika? My sister used even me, her own precious little sister to obtain her ideal machine. Even the closest thing she could call a friend and a lover was nothing more than a lab rat. It was no different between you and I. I loved you, but it wasn't you that I loved, it was the ideal image of you. No matter how much you had to suffer for it, I wanted you to be the man I envisioned. When my sister died, my blood screamed. At that time. I realized that no matter ho much I hate her, no matter how much I deny her, she is still my sister. And it's my duty as family to avenge her. This is fate Ichika, you can't fight it. This is how it should be. I realized it the moment she transferred control of the IS network to me. That's why I'm sorry. I'm taking back everything. Shenlong, Blue Tears, Rafael Revive, Schwarzer Regen, Uchigane Nishiki, Mysterious Lady, even your Byakushiki. All 467 IS will now avenge my sister. We will plunge it in her colors and paint the world she envisioned." "Idiot. When you say all that, what can I say to retort? only, I have already decided it, the burden that you decided to carry because someone thrust it onto you. From the very start, it was already on my shoulders. This world is under my protection. Wether it's you, Tabane-san, or even my sister. Whoever it is. Even if you take back the IS, we still have power." Ichika pulls out a revolver and brings it to his temple. "Ichika!" "I'll show you Houki. Even if fate has already been set in motion, we still have a hand left. The end is only the end if it has happened. This is just the start, and this is my ace. HENSHIN!" He pulls the trigger "Ichika you..." Ichika's transformation ends as a white armored being emerges, the motionless face of a machine. A human-wildcore hybrid. Kamen Rider "YOU KILLED MY SISTER!" "I'm sorry Houki. Let's end this."

2013-11-14, 09:35	Link #48378
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Tch... What should I expect next? Second Koyomi? Now remember it, your Ichika kind of remind me about Haruto. And have you watched Gaim ep.6? That Durian guy just freak me out, and even more when imagine Dan like that.

2013-11-14, 09:46	Link #48379
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	How is Ichika like Haruto? I personally feel he's somewhat different from any of the main riders. Haven't seen 6 yet. Got problems to deal with so my net isn't fairing too well.

2013-11-14, 09:51	Link #48380
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	They both have powers that could kill them if they changed. You should watch it. Freaking... In a good way! Oh, and who could have love Ichika's original, pathetic self?