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Randrak42 · 2012-04-17, 17:40

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Seriously? I only just picked the series up, so I wasn't aware... Kumagawa was enough to save the manga?

I know he's popular, the results of the last Popularity poll make that pretty clear. But popular enough to save an entire manga?

I may be wrong, but from what I remember back during the Flask Plan arc and before, the manga was always at the lowest spots in the popularity polls, but afterwards he started rising considerably...which coincidently is when Kumagawa started showing up.
So yea, if I remember correctly Kumagawa might have saved the manga almost by himself.

FFXFan13 · 2012-04-17, 17:43

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Originally Posted by Randrak42

I may be wrong, but from what I remember back during the Flask Plan arc and before, the manga was always at the lowest spots in the popularity polls, but afterwards he started rising considerably...which coincidently is when Kumagawa started showing up.
So yea, if I remember correctly Kumagawa might have saved the manga almost by himself.

Wow, it's actually kind of impressive that the author was able to create a character that was popular enough to save his series.

suikostar · 2012-04-17, 20:04

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Originally Posted by Randrak42

I may be wrong, but from what I remember back during the Flask Plan arc and before, the manga was always at the lowest spots in the popularity polls, but afterwards he started rising considerably...which coincidently is when Kumagawa started showing up.
So yea, if I remember correctly Kumagawa might have saved the manga almost by himself.

Its a masterpiece from its begining to (hopefuly) end. I think the manga actually got really popular in the latest arc, and as far as i know Kumagawa hasnt been that big of a factor in it, and besides this manga was popular even in the begining of it, even though there wasnt any Kumagawa....

KLGChaos · 2012-04-17, 20:46

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Originally Posted by suikostar

Its a masterpiece from its begining to (hopefuly) end. I think the manga actually got really popular in the latest arc, and as far as i know Kumagawa hasnt been that big of a factor in it, and besides this manga was popular even in the begining of it, even though there wasnt any Kumagawa....

Actually, early on, it spent most of its time in the bottom five in the rankings. It didn't really pick up steam until Kumagawa was introduced, followed by Ajimu.

FFXFan13 · 2012-04-17, 20:57

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Actually, early on, it spent most of its time in the bottom five in the rankings. It didn't really pick up steam until Kumagawa was introduced, followed by Ajimu.

Wasn't that because of the Genre shifts that followed their introductions, added to the appeal of the characters?

bumbayker · 2012-04-17, 22:42

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Wasn't that because of the Genre shifts that followed their introductions, added to the appeal of the characters?

The genre changed from slice of life/gag to a battle manga when the Public Morals Committee leader Unzen was introduced. But the genre change wasn't enough to boost its popularity until Kumagawa was finally introduced after the Flask Plan/Class 13 arc.

Randrak42 · 2012-04-18, 02:50

And taking into account the landslide victory in the popularity contest, it's safe to say, Kumagawa saved the manga because really...it was probably one short arc away from being cut. I remember having multiple discussions about it being cut next back then, especially considering that back then multiple manga were starting meaning that they wouldn't be cut until their chapter 12, but it managed to hang on. It's not really that uncommon for a single character to save manga when it is down in popularity, but it is really hard to pull off so props to him for coming up with Kumagawa.

DawnEmperor · 2012-04-18, 04:48

I do wonder though, why do the Japanese like Kumagawa? I mean, he received more than FOUR TIMES the number of votes Medaka received(and she didn't even break one thousand).

Grudging respect to Kumagawa for "saving" the manga though. It does sort of force the author to rely on him too much.

Randrak42 · 2012-04-18, 05:17

People seem to have a thing for the badass psychos with broken powers (Example: Alucard)

FFXFan13 · 2012-04-18, 05:19

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People seem to have a thing for the badass psychos with broken powers (Example: Alucard)

But Kumagawa gave up his broken powers, before the Second Poll, so would they really factor into it?

Randrak42 · 2012-04-18, 05:32

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But Kumagawa gave up his broken powers, before the Second Poll, so would they really factor into it?

His popularity was already established by then. Plus even without his powers, he still had that sociopath of a personality people seemed to love. Not only that, he destroyed the middle school girls rather easily, further cementing his awesome.

FFXFan13 · 2012-04-18, 05:40

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His popularity was already established by then. Plus even without his powers, he still had that sociopath of a personality people seemed to love. Not only that, he destroyed the middle school girls rather easily, further cementing his awesome.

That makes sense... Although while he does have some Sociopathic tendencies, he doesn't actually completely fill the profile of a Sociopath.

Tenchi Hou Take · 2012-04-18, 09:15

Well that was surprising, I'm sure it would have taken a while to be introduced.

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Soji · 2012-04-18, 09:22

Tenchi Hou Take @

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Tenchi Hou Take · 2012-04-18, 09:24

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Tenchi Hou Take @

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Homura7 · 2012-04-18, 09:26

That's Nisio for you. You simply can't predict what's going on through that man's head.

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Tenchi Hou Take · 2012-04-18, 09:30

BTW guys, No shounen jump next for those of you who don't know because it's Golden week, so this chapter is the double issue cliff hanger.

Randrak42 · 2012-04-18, 09:34

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FFXFan13 · 2012-04-18, 09:41

You know, it's one thing the use a character to pull off a heroic rescue, but shouldn't he have waited a bit before pulling Zenkichi into this? Although, saying that, I am unsurprised that Zenkichi got pulled into this, he is a main character after all, and Shounen Protagonists never miss an arc.

Oh well.

Randrak42 · 2012-04-18, 09:46

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You know, it's one thing the use a character to pull off a heroic rescue, but shouldn't he have waited a bit before pulling Zenkichi into this?

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2012-04-18, 09:15	Link #7953
Tenchi Hou Take Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Well that was surprising, I'm sure it would have taken a while to be introduced. Spoiler for spoiler: Zenkichi enters the stage, he seems to have his own new crew with Emukae

2012-04-18, 09:22	Link #7954
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	Tenchi Hou Take @ Spoiler for spoiler: What hell O_O You mean where Medaka ,Najimi and the other are or at the school? I mean it's too soon .

2012-04-18, 09:26	Link #7956
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	That's Nisio for you. You simply can't predict what's going on through that man's head. Spoiler for spoiler: Randrak will like this

2012-04-18, 02:50	Link #7947
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	And taking into account the landslide victory in the popularity contest, it's safe to say, Kumagawa saved the manga because really...it was probably one short arc away from being cut. I remember having multiple discussions about it being cut next back then, especially considering that back then multiple manga were starting meaning that they wouldn't be cut until their chapter 12, but it managed to hang on. It's not really that uncommon for a single character to save manga when it is down in popularity, but it is really hard to pull off so props to him for coming up with Kumagawa.

2012-04-18, 04:48	Link #7948
DawnEmperor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Somewhere	I do wonder though, why do the Japanese like Kumagawa? I mean, he received more than FOUR TIMES the number of votes Medaka received(and she didn't even break one thousand). Grudging respect to Kumagawa for "saving" the manga though. It does sort of force the author to rely on him too much.

2012-04-18, 05:17	Link #7949
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	People seem to have a thing for the badass psychos with broken powers (Example: Alucard)

2012-04-18, 09:30	Link #7957
Tenchi Hou Take Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	BTW guys, No shounen jump next for those of you who don't know because it's Golden week, so this chapter is the double issue cliff hanger.

2012-04-18, 09:41	Link #7959
FFXFan13 Swag Level: Glasses Join Date: May 2009 Location: Scotland, UK Age: 31	You know, it's one thing the use a character to pull off a heroic rescue, but shouldn't he have waited a bit before pulling Zenkichi into this? Although, saying that, I am unsurprised that Zenkichi got pulled into this, he is a main character after all, and Shounen Protagonists never miss an arc. Oh well.