2011-12-11, 15:17 | Link #26181 |
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So basically the oldest looks the youngest.
I forgot if the decades after follows Ikuko's "fake unveiling of Eva's diary" or if it follows the end of Rokkenjima 1986, but at the very least it seems like the gap between the time of the Ikuko/Diary event and Yukari/Toyah's meetings seems way too far apart for Hachijou not to have aged. Granted, the scenes showing 12 years old Battler in arc 7 shows him with his 18 years old sprite so I'd think it'd be just that, except that Ange said that thing about being ageless. Sure she could be wrong, but what's Ryuukishi's point of giving her an ageless sprite and having a character say she looks that way? |
2011-12-11, 18:51 | Link #26183 |
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Something random I noticed...
In arc 4 Battler says he likes flat chested loli with long black hair(as a joke). I realized that might more or less be an accurate description of Yasu. Well she wouldn't be loli but she probably looks very young given that she's 19 and pretending to be 16. Btw George is worst then Kinzo. At 17 years old he was jealous of a 12 years old Battler for being the one a (supposedly) 10 years old Shannon hangs with. |
2011-12-11, 20:09 | Link #26185 |
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Oh I'm getting there Judoh, but there's some things that are missing.
For one why would he murder everyone? Second, how could he? But Ive been reasoning with Chrono lately how his entire love story with Shannon was very fake/emtpy, he never even mentions a single thing he likes about her, and most of the time talks about money to her or his dreams of having a family. Even Jessica at least tried to make Kanon discover himself in comparison. You might like to add in your theory tho that in the arc 7 tea party George ask basically "Why would that fun uncle try to kill me?" - if you are right then it was a question we were actually supposed to answer. |
2011-12-11, 21:15 | Link #26186 |
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George is a pretty shady egomaniac creep, but your main point is pretty important: What's his motive for murder?
Now, I'm not saying mass murder. I'm saying murder at all. Remember, assuming "George is a complete dick" also assumes he's not that lovestruck for Shannon, which would make it hard to buy that he'd kill his mother for disapproving... plus she, uh, you know, survived. So that would make him a pretty bad murderer.
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2011-12-11, 21:23 | Link #26187 |
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Since we're speculating, how about "George is a complete dick, and also he knows Shannon found the gold"? That would give him a solid reason to kill anybody who tried to solve the epitaph and wasn't in his direct family. He doesn't need to know beforehand, he could just find out at some point during the weekend.
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2011-12-11, 22:41 | Link #26188 |
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Also when you think about it, murdering anyone on closed off island during a storm is a pretty dumb idea. Unless you plan on mass murdering every single person and then escape like Battler did after blowing up the island.
Still that goes down to being pretty ridiculously selfish. George (or anyone else) would have to know they can escape the island, they somehow can succeed in killing everyone else, and about the bomb. There isn't really many viable scenarios for a prime murder event. If you take a George culprit theory for instance, it'd have been far more practical to kill people outside of the island and only the specific people he wants to murder. There's quite a jump between murdering someone, and murdering also every possible witnesses. So as I see it either... 1- It was really an accident 2- It never happened (ange's world is also a story basically) 3- The culprit is suicidal and died failling to kill everyone else 4- The culprit, just like Battler, escaped the island and is still alive but no one ever found him and found some ways or another to evade the red about being dead. 5- Murders occured but it was an accidental situation that got out of hand and those who survived might not understand much of what happened. None of these are really satisfying. |
2011-12-11, 23:07 | Link #26190 |
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A.A He got tired of culprit theories of him and decided "that's what you wanted so I'll do it".
Seriously tho, there's a huge problem with any murderer. Suppose we take the arc 7 tea party. Why didn't Rudolf and Kyrie just somehow drag Battler to Kuwadorian and let the island be blown up killing everyone else -why actually doing any of the murders yourself if you know there's a bomb, and on the opposite it sounds really dumb to murder someone on a closed off island if you don't know there's a bomb. Outside of Yasu's scenario, it doesn't seem like someone could have planned this massacre, as if anyone did they'd just have blown up the island (and survived most likely)- or else use a better place then a closed off island during a storm to only murder their specific target and not everyone from Kumasawa to Maria. |
2011-12-11, 23:45 | Link #26191 |
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The problem is there's honestly no good reason to kill anyone on the island except for being so over the top evil that you just get an evil erection off of bloodshed or something. There's really no satisfactory answer, so Ryukishi sort of shot himself in the foot.
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Alternatively, if you murdered an entire city and then nuked it, perhaps you could erase all traces of murders there, but it remains the hard way if your plan was to murder the entire city and you had access to a nuke. Or just wanted to murder a few, but decided to nuke the city to get away with it and still murder everyone else first to ensure no one can escape the city and talk about it. |
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2011-12-12, 01:50 | Link #26195 |
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@Usagi: Well, from the start, murdering people is an all-or-nothing risk, but even so... I admit, it does sound ridiculous when you put it that way.
Ah, that invalidates other theories I had too. There's got to be something I'm missing here... To say that "there's absolutely no reason for murders on Rokkenjima at the family conference of 1986" would make it really boring. |
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