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4Tran · 2009-04-06, 10:28

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Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2009-04-06, 12:04

Spoiler for :

~~panpo98~~ · 2009-04-06, 14:22

Vallen Chaos Valiant: Are you sure?

Spoiler for Questions:

serenade_beta · 2009-04-06, 14:45

He was a guy after all!

Spoiler for ep14:

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2009-04-06, 19:33

Oh,. forgot to add...

Spoiler for :

Sixth · 2009-04-06, 20:09

Haha...Pretty interesting episode.

Spoiler for Episode 14:

Fishfood1 · 2009-04-06, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobita

Spoiler for Episode 14:

because sunrise wants free pizza, but don't want to waste $$, thus pizza hut commercials are put into the shows for advertisement

consider this is kinda like code geass R2 1/2, pizza hut appearance isn't really a surprise i'd say.

although i haven't seen the raw yet, i'm a bit lazy atm and i'd rather just wait for subs to come out to watch instead... and of course CA will likely do a short summary before the subs, so end up work for me as well.

C.A. · 2009-04-06, 21:23

Pizza Hut has been collaborating with Sorakake for like 2 months now. Previously they had the Songstress's of Macross Frontier besides C.C., they send special pizza boxes with the anime characters on them as well. Geass and C.C. was what started the anime collaborating with Pizza Hut and it turned out to be a great advertisement method.

Spoiler for this episode:

Von is really the creator and base for Leopard, Honoka hates him for not joining them to fight Nerval. But he claims he's actually fighting Nerval still.

He's been defending Earth against Pied Piper, the large mechanical structure that abducts Earthlings for Nerval. Pied Piper is a mobile space elevator that sends people to space and to Nerval.

At this point Pied Piper attacks the island, Akiha is being lured away again. But Von dials up the island's defense system, QT Roses. The Qt Rose is one of the bio weapons designed to counter Nerval, the 'Igujisutanzu'(Existance? Ixistance?), Honoka is the only one of the humanoid forms of the weapons to have survived. The rest were all taken away by Nerval and used as part of Pied Piper.

Kagura appears in Akiha's dreams again. Akiha says she's scared, but Kagura says that's how the enemy does things. Those who are scared will feel like hiding, in a box. In the box you'll feel safe and happiness, but you lose the freedom of your soul. Akiha is scared, like the Earthlings, that's why Pied Piper can lure them very easily, Nerval is preying on the feelings of fear.

Akiha then asks whether Kagura is Aleida and whether she's an ally of Nerval. Kagura laughs and says Nerval would be glad to have her as an ally.

Then Honoka comes into the bar and says its time to go. Kagura tells Gatou and Yazo, the Ninjas its time to leave and Fuuma the Miko to do a Tarot card reading. The Navi announces the prophecy is a good one and they head off. Before Kagura steps out, she tells Akiha to read this piece of note if they fail to defeat Nerval. Akiha chases after Kagura asking why is it herself, why is she involved in this, Kagura says because Akiha is the Sora wo Kakeru Shoujo.

As Akiha steps out of the bar, we learn that 50 years ago Kagura along with Honoka and the Ninjas went for a last battle against Nerval, the great war. She also notices 7 Suns and the name of the bar is Orbital Teahouse Enigma. Yes, the Enigma that the Ninjas are searching for, it seems this place is a very important place, Akiha probably has to come here to look for the note Kagura has left her. At this point she's about to be taken away by the Honoka clones, and Honoka saves her from the dream.

Von hears that Akiha has met Kagura in the dream and decides to tell them more. He explains that Kagura was a Shishidou who fought against Nerval in the past. She fell under Nerval and never returned, she was mostly likely captured and turned into Aleida. Leopard shot down Nerval and seemingly ended the war, but Nerval actually escaped and still survives. The anti-Nerval force wanted to continue pursuing Nerval but Leopard was demanded to be be disarmed by the ICP because he was the only super weapon left after the war and he threatens humanity. But for 50 years, Honoka escaped with a partly disarmed Leopard and continued pursuing Nerval, she doesn't want to end Kagura's will just like that.

The deal with Tsutsuji and Benkei is that while Tsutsuji has found a new life and wants to fufil her 'destiny', Benkei is stuck with thinking that Nerval hasn't used and disposed them just like that. Benkei is a useless slave of Nerval but he doesn't admit it and Tsutsuji needs slaves but all she can find are useless ones. Anyway they decided to steal the ship and head back to space, which is useless as well because it can't escape Earth's gravity. Itsuki asks didn't Tsutsuji use the space elevator to get back in space since she's an ally of Nerval. Tsutsuji says she's no longer an ally of Nerval and she doesn't know anything about the elevator. Benkei then says "Ah yes the elevator", which Tsutsuji is furious because the fool didn't tell her anything. But Von thinks he knows how to get everyone back to space now.

For Nami, Aleida is asking whether she's still deliberating, Nami says she doesn't know what to do. Kagura then asks if she wants to return to her room, the place with nothing, Nami says she will never return there. Aleida asks Nami to recall why she couldn't leave the room, Nami says its because there was no one who can save her. Aleida than asks Nami to listen, which she describes as the cries of people who were like her, people who wanted someone to save them. Aleida says that this time Nami will be the one who will save them, with her power, as Sora wo Kakeru Shoujo.

Tom Bombadil · 2009-04-06, 22:15

Where is Takane in this episode?

Mainly an exposition episode, other than the shameless pizzahut commercial, good stuff. At least we now know that Kagura is most likely not the mother of the Shishidou sisters. Silly me.

I claim young Kagura as my waifu. Why am I always attracted to tragic characters

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C.A. · 2009-04-06, 22:32

Takane is:

Spoiler:

I'll add you to the waifu list.

ReddyRedWolf · 2009-04-06, 22:34

Quote:

Where is Takane in this episode?

It's her QT Arms with the guy that Nerval was talking to.

I don't get it that Kagura was called mother by Nami. If indeed she was captured 50 years ago.

Considering the ages of Shishidou sisters it does not fit that Kagura is their mother. Besides Akiha does not recognize her.

Fishfood1 · 2009-04-06, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

I don't get it that Kagura was called mother by Nami. If indeed she was captured 50 years ago.

Considering the ages of Shishidou sisters it does not fit that Kagura is their mother. Besides Akiha does not recognize her.

consider this is some random future with mirrors that have enough durability to stand up against a large chainsaw, i'd say they probably have anti-aging formulas too

Sixth · 2009-04-06, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by C.A.

Takane is:

Spoiler:

I'll add you to the waifu list.

so what does the mysterious man conversation with the Nerval? and what they done to Takane?

C.A. · 2009-04-06, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobita

so what does the mysterious man conversation with the Nerval? and what they done to Takane?

What I get is the man is Nerval himself and here's what he says:

Spoiler:

SaintessHeart · 2009-04-07, 01:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Oh,. forgot to add...

Spoiler for :

Spoiler for counter spoiler:

Sixth · 2009-04-07, 05:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by C.A.

What I get is the man is Nerval himself and here's what he says:

Spoiler:

What a disappointment.

I am expecting the Nerval/Mysterious Man to say : Takane, I finally popped your cherry.....and let do it for another time and again, I AM AWESOME

SaintessHeart · 2009-04-07, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobita

I am expecting the Nerval/Mysterious Man to say : Takane, I finally popped your cherry.....and let do it for another time and again, I AM AWESOME

Then I want to be the mysterious man.

Tokkan · 2009-04-07, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

Then I want to be the mysterious man.

SaintessHeart wants to cheat on Honoka.

Fishfood1 · 2009-04-08, 00:01

considering the amount of waifu(s) he claims, he's been cheating on her for awhile i assume...

Hypernova · 2009-04-08, 01:14

Starving cops make easy bribes

I don't quite get the talking to 50 year ago Kagora thing. Since Kagura seems aware that she's her descendent (in my sub Von refers to kagura as ancestor not mother) and Akiha is physically there while she's only dreaming? Some kind of QT mental projection through time thing?

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2009-04-06, 12:04	Link #2
Vallen Chaos Valiant Logician and Romantic Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Within my mind Age: 43	Spoiler for : It appears at least the Kagura dreams are partially explained. The Kagura in the dream doesn't know anything about the present war and her identity as an ally of Nerval, because she is the old Kagura back 50 years ago before the previous war was over. This is some sort of time-portal window to the past, which might well be explained by quantum effects caused by QT. __________________

2009-04-06, 14:22	Link #3
~~panpo98~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Mar 2009	Vallen Chaos Valiant: Are you sure? Spoiler for Questions: Can't it be like the real Kagura in the dreams unconscionably is trying to be free from Nerval trough the dreams?

2009-04-06, 14:45	Link #4
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	He was a guy after all! Spoiler for ep14: Hmm...Interesting episode for the most part. So that dream Akiha has is of the past? Though why does she get to see the dreams? Anyways, I'm sure the note left by Kagura, who betrayed everyone and went to Nerval's side for some reason. Still... the old men sure were young in the dream. After fending off another brainwashing attack, the group finally discover a way to return to space too. Guess new OP next? Still, it's almost amazing Akiha hasn't even given Takane a single though... (-_-) In the meantime, the old man says Honoka is a human/living weapon. Un, Ok. That's good. Next. Though it was pretty obvious that he created Zero-bot, considering his voice. In the meantime, we get Benkei moe... And unfortunately, that Denpa Glasses girl is still around. Useless too. I almost wonder what was the whole point of the slave thing if all of them just run off before they do anything? Just fanservice? Tch. In the meantime, a bit of ninja duo moe. In the meantime, Nami... still hasn't done anything. I swear basically the exact same scene has gone on for the past few weeks... Hurry up and so something. In the meantime, the student council continue to be able to do nothing. Surprisingly powerless and useless, considering the way they acted at the beginning. Preview: FINALLY, they do something. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2009-04-06, 19:33	Link #5
Vallen Chaos Valiant Logician and Romantic Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Within my mind Age: 43	Oh,. forgot to add... Spoiler for : Pizzahut supports the Resistance! __________________

2009-04-06, 20:09	Link #6
Sixth Hu Tao Join Date: Oct 2006	Haha...Pretty interesting episode. Spoiler for Episode 14: It seem that Old Man love to drink tea as well...Just like Leopard and Leopard finally can float like Benkei...and It worth to see Sakura pissed off because her Go-Chan and Benkei have become friends. There you go, Your Go-Chan really have the big weakness. The more I see, Benkei isnt that "BAD" as Nerval and his friends..He look pretty idiotic as well. and Kagura actually rode the same QT-Arm as Akiha in the past....Fate sure a weird things. and Akiha, it seem this girl really weak to Nerval's mind control things..It work extremely effective against her for twice. Next episode should look pretty good as they going to have re-match with Nerval and his friends.. I wonder who is the mysterious guy...and again, Pizza Hut make their appearance again...what up with Pizza Hut and Sunrise things anyway?

2009-04-06, 21:23	Link #8
C.A. Absolute Haruhist! Artist Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 36	Pizza Hut has been collaborating with Sorakake for like 2 months now. Previously they had the Songstress's of Macross Frontier besides C.C., they send special pizza boxes with the anime characters on them as well. Geass and C.C. was what started the anime collaborating with Pizza Hut and it turned out to be a great advertisement method. Spoiler for this episode: Von is really the creator and base for Leopard, Honoka hates him for not joining them to fight Nerval. But he claims he's actually fighting Nerval still. He's been defending Earth against Pied Piper, the large mechanical structure that abducts Earthlings for Nerval. Pied Piper is a mobile space elevator that sends people to space and to Nerval. At this point Pied Piper attacks the island, Akiha is being lured away again. But Von dials up the island's defense system, QT Roses. The Qt Rose is one of the bio weapons designed to counter Nerval, the 'Igujisutanzu'(Existance? Ixistance?), Honoka is the only one of the humanoid forms of the weapons to have survived. The rest were all taken away by Nerval and used as part of Pied Piper. Kagura appears in Akiha's dreams again. Akiha says she's scared, but Kagura says that's how the enemy does things. Those who are scared will feel like hiding, in a box. In the box you'll feel safe and happiness, but you lose the freedom of your soul. Akiha is scared, like the Earthlings, that's why Pied Piper can lure them very easily, Nerval is preying on the feelings of fear. Akiha then asks whether Kagura is Aleida and whether she's an ally of Nerval. Kagura laughs and says Nerval would be glad to have her as an ally. Then Honoka comes into the bar and says its time to go. Kagura tells Gatou and Yazo, the Ninjas its time to leave and Fuuma the Miko to do a Tarot card reading. The Navi announces the prophecy is a good one and they head off. Before Kagura steps out, she tells Akiha to read this piece of note if they fail to defeat Nerval. Akiha chases after Kagura asking why is it herself, why is she involved in this, Kagura says because Akiha is the Sora wo Kakeru Shoujo. As Akiha steps out of the bar, we learn that 50 years ago Kagura along with Honoka and the Ninjas went for a last battle against Nerval, the great war. She also notices 7 Suns and the name of the bar is Orbital Teahouse Enigma. Yes, the Enigma that the Ninjas are searching for, it seems this place is a very important place, Akiha probably has to come here to look for the note Kagura has left her. At this point she's about to be taken away by the Honoka clones, and Honoka saves her from the dream. Von hears that Akiha has met Kagura in the dream and decides to tell them more. He explains that Kagura was a Shishidou who fought against Nerval in the past. She fell under Nerval and never returned, she was mostly likely captured and turned into Aleida. Leopard shot down Nerval and seemingly ended the war, but Nerval actually escaped and still survives. The anti-Nerval force wanted to continue pursuing Nerval but Leopard was demanded to be be disarmed by the ICP because he was the only super weapon left after the war and he threatens humanity. But for 50 years, Honoka escaped with a partly disarmed Leopard and continued pursuing Nerval, she doesn't want to end Kagura's will just like that. The deal with Tsutsuji and Benkei is that while Tsutsuji has found a new life and wants to fufil her 'destiny', Benkei is stuck with thinking that Nerval hasn't used and disposed them just like that. Benkei is a useless slave of Nerval but he doesn't admit it and Tsutsuji needs slaves but all she can find are useless ones. Anyway they decided to steal the ship and head back to space, which is useless as well because it can't escape Earth's gravity. Itsuki asks didn't Tsutsuji use the space elevator to get back in space since she's an ally of Nerval. Tsutsuji says she's no longer an ally of Nerval and she doesn't know anything about the elevator. Benkei then says "Ah yes the elevator", which Tsutsuji is furious because the fool didn't tell her anything. But Von thinks he knows how to get everyone back to space now. For Nami, Aleida is asking whether she's still deliberating, Nami says she doesn't know what to do. Kagura then asks if she wants to return to her room, the place with nothing, Nami says she will never return there. Aleida asks Nami to recall why she couldn't leave the room, Nami says its because there was no one who can save her. Aleida than asks Nami to listen, which she describes as the cries of people who were like her, people who wanted someone to save them. Aleida says that this time Nami will be the one who will save them, with her power, as Sora wo Kakeru Shoujo. __________________ No longer a NEET so I'll not be online as often. Ignore gender and kick sexuality to the curb! I'm a big mecha fan, who keeps playing the SRW series. When I say 'My god...', god refers to Haruhi-sama. My art album updated 11th May 2013, Science. Deviant Art: http://ca0001.deviantart.com/

2009-04-06, 22:15	Link #9
Tom Bombadil Senior Member Join Date: May 2007	Where is Takane in this episode? Mainly an exposition episode, other than the shameless pizzahut commercial, good stuff. At least we now know that Kagura is most likely not the mother of the Shishidou sisters. Silly me. I claim young Kagura as my waifu. Why am I always attracted to tragic characters .

2009-04-06, 22:32	Link #10
C.A. Absolute Haruhist! Artist Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 36	Takane is: Spoiler: With the 'real' Nerval, that man is like Von is to Leopard. He's probably the one behind Nerval going berserk. I'll add you to the waifu list. __________________ No longer a NEET so I'll not be online as often. Ignore gender and kick sexuality to the curb! I'm a big mecha fan, who keeps playing the SRW series. When I say 'My god...', god refers to Haruhi-sama. My art album updated 11th May 2013, Science. Deviant Art: http://ca0001.deviantart.com/

2009-04-08, 00:01	Link #19
Fishfood1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Not Antarctica?	considering the amount of waifu(s) he claims, he's been cheating on her for awhile i assume... __________________ roof>bed

2009-04-08, 01:14	Link #20
Hypernova Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Virgo Supercluster, Milky Way, Orion Arm, Sol, Earth, Taiwan Age: 38	Starving cops make easy bribes I don't quite get the talking to 50 year ago Kagora thing. Since Kagura seems aware that she's her descendent (in my sub Von refers to kagura as ancestor not mother) and Akiha is physically there while she's only dreaming? Some kind of QT mental projection through time thing?