2013-02-09, 16:23 | Link #1001 |
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Regarding the robot, when a human is being pushed, he shifts his body in a way that effectively counteracts the external force. If he just stands there like a stick, it doesn't take much wind to knock him over. GunPro2 is the same (bonus for being designed to be light; even GunPro1 would've withstood the wind better).
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2013-02-09, 17:47 | Link #1002 |
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In one of the early Kimijima reports, he says that the Kagome song is like a signature of the Committee of 300, if I remember right. I think the song should be more associated with the Committee than with Kimijima.
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2013-02-09, 20:51 | Link #1005 | |
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2013-02-09, 21:01 | Link #1006 |
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A lot of the inherent scientific/technological implausibility in this series I can live with--this is anime, after all--what I was more annoyed by was the extremely sudden introduction of an extremely traumatic death, in a series whose general emotional tone has been so different up to now. Yes, dramatic power can come from unexpectedness, but there's a fine balance between a good dramatic twist and emotional inconsistency, and I saw the latter rather than the former. I'm not saying R;N can't possibly do a death at this point after the episodes and story we've previously seen, but if they want to go there, they have to craft a situation where the circumstances require such a drastic outcome. This was just so... out of left field.
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2013-02-09, 21:04 | Link #1007 | |
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Oh, I'm not arguing with that. I'm arguing with how max2k said that exoskeleton legs in the latest episode of R;N is not a fiction anymore for some time now.
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2013-02-09, 22:37 | Link #1009 |
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Mind you that I don’t consider that exoskeleton legs itself that unrealistic. What I think is unrealistic is what it can do in the particular episode (which I already described in my previous posts). If you think otherwise, then I will respect your opinion. The problem is, people has been quoting or replying to me and invite me in some arguments. I just go along with it. By no means I try to shove my opinion down others' throat by repeatedly posting it here again and again.
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2013-02-10, 01:21 | Link #1011 |
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I was referring to from the time the exoskeleton were available to the point of time in the story. I think that is a bit of still but it gets my point across that if it exist now there is no way that after 20 years that this can't have advanced far enough to do what is in that scene.
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2013-02-10, 10:59 | Link #1012 |
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I've been puzzling over this question for a couple of days now. I haven't come to a good answer yet. So I thought I'd ask for your opinions.
Why do you think Mizuka was targeted? I'm convinced that the exoskeleton malfunction was no mere malfunction. I believe that behavior was triggered purposefully by Committee 300 representatives, most likely Misaki's boss. But why? Kai should be the one that the boss wants out of the picture. Kai is the threat. So why go after Mizuka? Did the boss hope that somehow Mizuka's exoskeleton would take down Kai too? That seems unlikely. It occurred to me that Mizuka's death may be Misaki's punishment for shielding Kai. I could see boss doing that. But killing Mizuka in front of Kai seems counterproductive because the act should warn Kai about the dangerous situation he's in. (I'm assuming that boss knew Kai was there by the GPS in his phone pad.) Or maybe? Maybe there is an unknown third party involved? Someone other than boss who arranged Mizuka's death?? If so, who? And again, why? I keep coming back to "why". Why was Mizuka killed? I can't figure out a good answer for that question.
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2013-02-10, 11:37 | Link #1013 |
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If i think over it, it maybee even a protective measure by Misaki. If Mizuka would finaly give Kai all the information over Kimijimam that she had, Kai would possible draw even more attention of the "300". So she sacrificed her to protect him.
Is only a very random though: Because she should know this death will posible inspire him even more to know the truth and do some thing.
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2013-02-10, 16:44 | Link #1015 | |
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Clearly, she would have liked him to stop, and the warning was genuine, but I don't get the idea that she thought it would work. But what else can she do? She doesn't want to get him in deeper, but anything that might get him to stop might also get him to know too much. There's a lot we don't know. One possibility I see is that the committee also wants to get their hands on the report, but the strange nature of the security system prevents them from having access. So they might want Kai to get hold of the report (as snatching it from him is a lot easier than snatching it from Kamijima...). Mizuka may be aware of that, too. For example, I'm not sure what that "Tell Misaki 'thanks for the legs,'" is about; it could be a coded message. The three of them (and possibly Kona's mum) might have a history with Kamijima. So, from the perspective of the committee, getting rid of Mizuka might also mean getting rid of an obstacle (and they might have kept her around to get at Kimijima's code, supervising her and controlling her via the exo-skeleton; and she might have become unnecessary, Kai being more useful at that stage, for getting at Kamijima). But it also sends a message to Kai (we're very dangerous) that might be detrimental to him retrieving the report. Finally, it also sends a message to Misaki (you know we mean business, right?). This situation is such a mess, and there's so much we don't know. The connections make my head spin. I'm thinking the next thread to unravel is Subaru's dad's hatred for robots... (And what's with the teacher in charge of the roboclub; there seems to be some sort of connection there with the impact-guy from the robo-firm... I can't keep up. ) |
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2013-02-10, 23:08 | Link #1017 |
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The committee seems to have no real reason to kill Mizuka in that way at that time.She was trying to stop Kai from reading the Kimijima reports.All her death does is make him more driven to find and believe them.
However Kimijima had a good reason to want to remove anyone trying to get in his way.If Misaki knows everything in the reports and is working undercover for Kimijima's plan then I think there is a lot of the ends justify the means going on.I would not be surprised if it was Sister Centipede that took control of her exoskeleton. |
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Anime physics though.. It's just meant to be a shocker. She was a useless character anyways. |
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