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Baka no desu ka? · 2003-11-25, 23:00

Could it be that the Yondaime sealed some of himself in Naruto? You can't forget that he died when he sealed the Kyubi. It could be from Kyubi being way too powerful and he was absolutely worn out in doing the seal, but it could be that forcing some great demon inside a person actually requires forcing the demon in with your spirit - the nature of the seal isn't explicitly discussed in the anime or manga, so it's just a possibility.

p3psi · 2003-11-25, 23:11

You know how sasuke wants to kill his brother? well if you didnt know, he does.

anyways, why doesnt he wait like in 60 or 70 years when he's brother is really old, and like can spike his viagra or push his wheelchair down a hill.

Lee-pimp · 2003-11-25, 23:58

about the villagers treating him better well they didnt know that he was the fourths son cus the fourth died and sealed kyuubi into naruto right after narutos birth and obviously his mother isnt around to tell anyone and i would think that the fourth had to be his father or at least a relative i mean who would put the burden of kyuubi on a kid that isnt theirs or related to them

id also like to post some theories by others

i believe this was hunters:naruto is an ultimate form of the kage bunshin of the fourth (his clone that lasts forever)

cant remember any more hey dranz-sama vicious-sama your needed you old geezers

Dragon Flame · 2003-11-26, 00:17

DAMN YOU LEE-PIMP!!!! IM A GEEZER LIKE THEM U PUNK!!!! AHHHHHH

i give up on you people!! IM GOING TO BECOME THE BEST MODERATOR ONE DAY AND MAKE U ALL ACKKNOWLEDGE MY EXISTENCE!!

as a matter of fact, Dranz, Hotrabbi, and myself were the original geezers... but nooooo u werent around then were you?! WERE YOU?!

*ahem* Naruto i believe is related to the 4th in some way... but not an incarnation.... Nephew is most reasonable

TheGreatYakoshi · 2003-11-26, 04:03

Haha, always funny to see DF get worked up over his status among the AS geezers.

Hunter · 2003-11-26, 11:21

Hey guy, keep cool, old geezer isn't a status or something, it was just a joke between Vicious and me at the beginning, if some other people want to use it too, it's just for the fun.

Damn, there is no rank between the user here.
That remind me this stupid old thread that peoples have made just to talk and laugh about the ban of Dranz and rabbi for 2 days.

I will say the same thing that 2 months ago : Senin or old geezer or SpoonKage or whatever, all that it's just a joke.
If you thinks that it's funny, good for you, use it.
If not, good for you too and don't use it that's all.

**monir** · 2003-11-26, 12:28

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Originally Posted by Dragon Flame

i give up on you people!! IM GOING TO BECOME THE BEST MODERATOR ONE DAY AND MAKE U ALL ACKKNOWLEDGE MY EXISTENCE!!

Dont give up on us yet, oh respectable old-geezer....And yes Hunter-san, everyone here is outstanding, so humor and respect goes together for all of us who post..Enough of that BS..

An off topic Q..What is the symbol means on Gaara's forehead?..I know, its too obvious a question not to be asked before and the answer probably is in some thread I did not read...So, anyone?

archzai · 2003-11-26, 13:20

it's chinese for LOVE...

something perhaps... that he NEVER HAD or wut he lost

Vicious · 2003-11-26, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Hunter

Long time that I didn't use this one, thus :

Hunter-san, gotta

for this pic.
Really funny

Ayla · 2004-01-06, 22:03

Hm, I hope I'm not killed for asking this but I was curious..I was reading some of the manga, and came across this..was hoping someone can fill me in.

not sure if this is a spoiler but just incase:

Spoiler:

I haven't read any more if it explains it..I'm thinking it just means the seal thing, cause i know they want something to do with the demon, but wasn't sure. Sorry for the stupid question, i'm sure its obvious lol. -_-

-hides-

Neuspeed · 2004-01-06, 22:08

Wow i'm luvin' the spoilers, even is they are just rumours. I think if the 4th sealed the nin tails in his own son, it would be because he knew his son would had what it takes to stand the pressure of having such demond on his body.

Neuspeed · 2004-01-06, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Ayla

Hm, I hope I'm not killed for asking this but I was curious..I was reading some of the manga, and came across this..was hoping someone can fill me in.

not sure if this is a spoiler but just incase:

Spoiler:

I haven't read any more if it explains it..I'm thinking it just means the seal thing, cause i know they want something to do with the demon, but wasn't sure. Sorry for the stupid question, i'm sure its obvious lol. -_-

-hides-

Hmmmm I don't think that dude has been introduced in the anime series, has he?? Itachi that is..

Ayla · 2004-01-06, 22:48

No, he hasn't..but I didn't see anywhere that I couldn't post stuff from the manga..did I miss that? :X

Byakugan · 2004-01-07, 10:40

In japanese the simbol on gaaras for head translated from either katakana or hirakana means demon i am not completely sure wich.

Vicious · 2004-01-07, 10:43

No, the Kanji in Gaara's forehead means "love".

Gaara translates as "a demon who loves only himself". And that's what Gaara is.

Maxter · 2004-01-07, 16:05

I think there's a possibility that the 4th is Naruto's father, and that he sealed Kyubi inside Naruto, and not any other random person, becouse he thought it's power could be useful to Naruto once he learns to master them.

But... If that was the case, don't you think Naruto would be treated with better respect from the people who was there when the Kyubi attacked? I mean, even if he has the Kyubi inside of him, I think Naruto still would be treated more respectfully if he really was the 4th's son, especially since the 4th himself asked them to consider Naruto as a hero rather than a monster.
But then again, even if Naruto isn't his son, the villagers should treat him better since it was the 4th's last wish, and they still don't give a damn about it, atleast not until recently.

New ideas brings more question, but in short, I still think the possibility of the 4th being Naruto's father is rather big. Question is, who is/was his mother? Probably someone who too died in the battle against the Kyubi, otherwise she would probably be taking care of Naruto. Unless she has some lame-ass reason for not doing it, or is simply too weak to do it by herself...

Kamui4356 · 2004-01-07, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Maxter

I think there's a possibility that the 4th is Naruto's father, and that he sealed Kyubi inside Naruto, and not any other random person, becouse he thought it's power could be useful to Naruto once he learns to master them.

But... If that was the case, don't you think Naruto would be treated with better respect from the people who was there when the Kyubi attacked? I mean, even if he has the Kyubi inside of him, I think Naruto still would be treated more respectfully if he really was the 4th's son, especially since the 4th himself asked them to consider Naruto as a hero rather than a monster.

Exactly the reason I believe that Naruto, while related to the 4th, is not his son. The 4th couldn't have sealed the kyubi in some random baby. "Hi, I'm the 4th. I need your newborn son to seal that big fox demon thing inside of." Somehow I don't see that working. As you said if Naruto was his son, the villagers would treat him better, but he has to be related somehow. That's why I say Naruto is the 4th's nephew. Close enough of a relation to explain the 4th choosing to seal the kyubi in him, and to explain why they look alike, yet distant enough for the villagers to treat Naruto like that.

Maxter · 2004-01-07, 16:34

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Originally Posted by Kamui4356

Exactly the reason I believe that Naruto, while related to the 4th, is not his son. The 4th couldn't have sealed the kyubi in some random baby. "Hi, I'm the 4th. I need your newborn son to seal that big fox demon thing inside of." Somehow I don't see that working. As you said if Naruto was his son, the villagers would treat him better, but he has to be related somehow. That's why I say Naruto is the 4th's nephew. Close enough of a relation to explain the 4th choosing to seal the kyubi in him, and to explain why they look alike, yet distant enough for the villagers to treat Naruto like that.

Hey, that's a pretty good theory. Nephew does sound close enough for the looks and also the fact that he got permission to seal the kyubi inside of Naruto. Naruto's parents must have known the 4th pretty good to trust his judgement and let him seal the fox inside their son, and if Naruto was the 4th's nephew, that kinda makes sense, I agree with that.

Hunter · 2004-01-07, 17:32

*cough* Actually Naruto doesn't have a father neither a mother, he's the clone of the 4th.
The ultimate form of the Kage Bunshin, a permanent clone made by the 4th before his death.
That's why the seal was transmitted to him when the 4th died.

Well, it's at least the wild and crazy theory of Hunter.

ShikaShika · 2004-01-07, 17:36

Dunno if it was said already, but obviously if Naruto was somehow related to the 4th (son or not), the villagers don't know about it.

I still don't know why exactly people think they are related in the first place, maybe the 4th just sealed the kyuubi into an orphan?

2003-11-26, 00:17	Link #24
Dragon Flame Wet Kimimaro Love Join Date: May 2003 Location: New York Age: 38	DAMN YOU LEE-PIMP!!!! IM A GEEZER LIKE THEM U PUNK!!!! AHHHHHH i give up on you people!! IM GOING TO BECOME THE BEST MODERATOR ONE DAY AND MAKE U ALL ACKKNOWLEDGE MY EXISTENCE!! as a matter of fact, Dranz, Hotrabbi, and myself were the original geezers... but nooooo u werent around then were you?! WERE YOU?! ahem Naruto i believe is related to the 4th in some way... but not an incarnation.... Nephew is most reasonable __________________

2004-01-06, 22:03	Link #30
Ayla Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Canada Age: 39	Hm, I hope I'm not killed for asking this but I was curious..I was reading some of the manga, and came across this..was hoping someone can fill me in. not sure if this is a spoiler but just incase: Spoiler: In the part where Itachi comes to the leaf village and fights a little with Kakashi and the other 2, Kakashi asks if hes here for Sasuke. Itachi says 'no, the fourth daime's isan' or something. Then at the bottom said isan was inheritor/successor/lineage. Kakashi then says 'naruto' so yeah, could that point something out? Or would it likely be cause he sealed the demon fox in naruto? I haven't read any more if it explains it..I'm thinking it just means the seal thing, cause i know they want something to do with the demon, but wasn't sure. Sorry for the stupid question, i'm sure its obvious lol. -_- -hides-

2004-01-06, 22:08	Link #31
Neuspeed Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Houston	Wow spoiler Wow i'm luvin' the spoilers, even is they are just rumours. I think if the 4th sealed the nin tails in his own son, it would be because he knew his son would had what it takes to stand the pressure of having such demond on his body.

2003-11-25, 23:00	Link #21
Baka no desu ka? Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Why do you want to know??? Age: 34	Could it be that the Yondaime sealed some of himself in Naruto? You can't forget that he died when he sealed the Kyubi. It could be from Kyubi being way too powerful and he was absolutely worn out in doing the seal, but it could be that forcing some great demon inside a person actually requires forcing the demon in with your spirit - the nature of the seal isn't explicitly discussed in the anime or manga, so it's just a possibility.

2003-11-25, 23:11	Link #22
p3psi Oscar winning black actor Join Date: Nov 2003	You know how sasuke wants to kill his brother? well if you didnt know, he does. anyways, why doesnt he wait like in 60 or 70 years when he's brother is really old, and like can spike his viagra or push his wheelchair down a hill.

2003-11-25, 23:58	Link #23
Lee-pimp A.S.S. Vice President Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: i dont know can you help me Age: 34	about the villagers treating him better well they didnt know that he was the fourths son cus the fourth died and sealed kyuubi into naruto right after narutos birth and obviously his mother isnt around to tell anyone and i would think that the fourth had to be his father or at least a relative i mean who would put the burden of kyuubi on a kid that isnt theirs or related to them id also like to post some theories by others i believe this was hunters:naruto is an ultimate form of the kage bunshin of the fourth (his clone that lasts forever) cant remember any more hey dranz-sama vicious-sama your needed you old geezers

2003-11-26, 04:03	Link #25
TheGreatYakoshi The Baka Mangaka Returns! Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 42	Haha, always funny to see DF get worked up over his status among the AS geezers.

2003-11-26, 11:21	Link #26
Hunter Bubbly and super fun Join Date: May 2003 Location: Doesn't look like Kansas	Hey guy, keep cool, old geezer isn't a status or something, it was just a joke between Vicious and me at the beginning, if some other people want to use it too, it's just for the fun. Damn, there is no rank between the user here. That remind me this stupid old thread that peoples have made just to talk and laugh about the ban of Dranz and rabbi for 2 days. I will say the same thing that 2 months ago : Senin or old geezer or SpoonKage or whatever, all that it's just a joke. If you thinks that it's funny, good for you, use it. If not, good for you too and don't use it that's all.

2003-11-26, 13:20	Link #28
archzai Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Age: 40	it's chinese for LOVE... something perhaps... that he NEVER HAD or wut he lost

2004-01-06, 22:48	Link #33
Ayla Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Canada Age: 39	No, he hasn't..but I didn't see anywhere that I couldn't post stuff from the manga..did I miss that? :X

2004-01-07, 10:40	Link #34
Byakugan krigakure assassin Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: berkely,california usa	In japanese the simbol on gaaras for head translated from either katakana or hirakana means demon i am not completely sure wich.

2004-01-07, 10:43	Link #35
Vicious merely a ghost Join Date: Jan 2003 Age: 36	No, the Kanji in Gaara's forehead means "love". Gaara translates as "a demon who loves only himself". And that's what Gaara is.

2004-01-07, 16:05	Link #36
Maxter Boku wa Great desu! Ehehe Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden	I think there's a possibility that the 4th is Naruto's father, and that he sealed Kyubi inside Naruto, and not any other random person, becouse he thought it's power could be useful to Naruto once he learns to master them. But... If that was the case, don't you think Naruto would be treated with better respect from the people who was there when the Kyubi attacked? I mean, even if he has the Kyubi inside of him, I think Naruto still would be treated more respectfully if he really was the 4th's son, especially since the 4th himself asked them to consider Naruto as a hero rather than a monster. But then again, even if Naruto isn't his son, the villagers should treat him better since it was the 4th's last wish, and they still don't give a damn about it, atleast not until recently. New ideas brings more question, but in short, I still think the possibility of the 4th being Naruto's father is rather big. Question is, who is/was his mother? Probably someone who too died in the battle against the Kyubi, otherwise she would probably be taking care of Naruto. Unless she has some lame-ass reason for not doing it, or is simply too weak to do it by herself...

2004-01-07, 17:32	Link #39
Hunter Bubbly and super fun Join Date: May 2003 Location: Doesn't look like Kansas	cough Actually Naruto doesn't have a father neither a mother, he's the clone of the 4th. The ultimate form of the Kage Bunshin, a permanent clone made by the 4th before his death. That's why the seal was transmitted to him when the 4th died. Well, it's at least the wild and crazy theory of Hunter.

2004-01-07, 17:36	Link #40
ShikaShika 無罪 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: もう東京ではない Age: 43	Dunno if it was said already, but obviously if Naruto was somehow related to the 4th (son or not), the villagers don't know about it. I still don't know why exactly people think they are related in the first place, maybe the 4th just sealed the kyuubi into an orphan?