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View Poll Results: Fate/Zero - Episode 25 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 78 | 48.45% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 45 | 27.95% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 8.70% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 14 | 8.70% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.24% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 3 | 1.86% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.62% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.62% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 1.86% | |
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2012-06-24, 12:11 | Link #141 |
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Kariya died with happy thoughts, but it was just illusions... so sad on what happened to Sakura and Rin too
could it be they show Saber crying for the first time? that light at the end looks like hope for her glad to have such a good series like this, which is so rare nowadays, i like the FSN anime too but it could not be compared to Zero
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2012-06-24, 12:46 | Link #144 | |
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And he actually goes on to reiterate that same dream in the very last moments of his life, so I really don't see it as something that was merely forced upon him by his bad experiences. He would've pursued it either way, just not in the way he ended up doing. Whether he would've eventually outgrown it or not, who can say. But that's what Shirou's story is for. |
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2012-06-24, 13:19 | Link #146 |
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Wow, that was simply a great ending overall. Rarely has such a tragic ending been so wonderful for me to watch. Thoughts:
- Ok, they did retroactively explain Berserker's story a bit, and the scene in which they did made it even more heartwrenching on top of Saber's complete break down (which, I'm still startled to maintain, is strangely beautiful like Gilgamesh says). On that note, - Poor Saber She is just shattered, isn't she? Although oddly enough, Spoiler for FSN ending:
- Kirei's scene was a pure delight to watch. Seeing him revel in his newfound acceptance of his sociopathic nature was just glorious, especially the way his uncontrollable laughter was intertwined with his ironically self-condemnatory remarks (lines like "Could my father have sired a dog?" or "Is it possible that this was created from Kotomine Risei's seed?" I took to be as such, though I forget the exact wording). Despite the fact that this was essentially a scene of a man celebrating evil, I couldn't help but grin myself. And then, handing Rin that dagger and seeing the poor girl just start crying...Kirei, go fuck yourself, man. You're an asshole - Oh, Aoi's alive, weird. Still with what Rin's now been through, it's a bit of a miracle she ended up being a relatively well-adjusted teen, huh? - For Kiritsugu, I have no words. Seeing him finally find just a tiny bit of salvation in our young original protagonist, after his last hope for it had just slaughtered everyone he was ironically trying to save, was beautiful, especially with Shiro's narration. I guess now we know why he never returned to Ilya though, how sad. I'm curious, did Kiritsugu ever talk with Shiro about his past? They lived together at least 5 years, after all, I wonder if it came up. Now, Ufotable needs to get to animating this Heaven's Feel everyone's talking about as soon as possible. Seriously, I need more, and I sincerely hope they're the studio to do it. - Oh and last thought: Gilgamesh rescuing Kirei from the rubble, naked. The fujoshi must have had a heart attack. Which is more than we can say for Kirei now. |
2012-06-24, 17:44 | Link #148 |
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I liked this ending a lot more than I thought I would.
I was glad they included the Lancelot moment in this episode after all but I did find it a bit underwhelming for me. I did feel for Saber though, great job by Ayako Kawasumi. Disliked most of Kariya's storyline but Sakura's line at the end was chilling. Besides Lancer, Kariya's ending might be the worst. I don't really have much sympathy for him after what he did to Sakura & Rin's mom but I do feel for Sakura. Loved seeing Waver again..I teared up a little at the empty room with no Rider but his presence still being there. Still my favorite team. But my favorite thing about the episode was Kiritsugu's ending. Maybe I am just a sap but I love endings like that. Kiritsugu was very misguided in his attempts to do good but he actually does one simple act of goodness and in that way his wish will come true, not through him, but through his son. I never experienced FSN but this did resonate with me. And after all that bitterness I am glad the series ended on a hopeful note for the future.
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2012-06-24, 19:27 | Link #149 | |
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Ufotable really needs to do Heaven's Feel. Perfect follow up for Zero.
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2012-06-24, 22:07 | Link #150 |
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Hmm. Seeing the reactions for the Kariya scene (tbh I don't think they can fix that even with blue ray they totally changed the message) I'm now ambivalent on whether they should do HF, which is heavily, heavily plot based drama. Since it's most definitely longer in story length than Zero, even an anime might be hard to work around. Plus there are way too many necessary elements that'd make the story fall flat in several places if not done right.
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2012-06-24, 23:04 | Link #152 | |
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And since he's not a cute girl, he won't even get the "Isn't it sad, Sacchin?" treament. |
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2012-06-24, 23:44 | Link #153 |
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A bit less thrilling than my expectations, leaving some questions.
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It's unfortunate, but had the pacing been better during the first half of the series, the final episode might have been more clear. I did like how they used flashback of Berserker's final moment to describe Saber's feelings, but nevertheless I still wish they had included some of this in episode 24 to have a more satisfactory end to Berserker. On the other hand, I did not understand the point of including Waver's story while they decided to leave out many things that would have answered questions tying into the main part of the story. eh, leaving serious discussion behind... I kinda couldn't take the episode seriously anymore after NAKED GIL. LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD!
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2012-06-25, 00:13 | Link #156 |
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Waver was one of my favorites from the series but I personally would have liked to see some of the stuff that was cut out rather than Waver scene. But personal preferences, personal preferences.
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2012-06-25, 00:18 | Link #157 | |
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2012-06-25, 01:29 | Link #158 | |
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I find it interesting that some people still see it as a "tournament" story instead of individual downfall and self discovery. Uryuu discovered his most prized possession Kayneth lost his pride Tohsaka lost his opportunity Waver discovered his goal in life Kariya lost his fight against fate Kotomine discovered his true self Kiritsugu lost his hope, yet discovered them again.
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2012-06-25, 02:11 | Link #160 |
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nice ending, seeing Kiritsugu looked in despair because even after he chose to abandon his family in order to save many more people, it reverse back and the grail that he tried to destroy then destroying people he wanted to save... seeing he became desperate in searching for people who may still be alive in that pile of rubbish and find his salvation after finding Shirou...
Another tragic end for a master which is Kariya who tried to get the happiness of the person he loved, he was deceived by Kirei and be thought as killer by Aoi and laslty just got the illusion that he had already saved Sakura and brought her back to Aoi and Rin.... I felt that Waver get the most development.... as before he was just a kid who act selfishly and now become mature because of Rider.... it's good too that berseker did some conversation with Saber and told his feelings to saber... and woot... Taiga in her young age with her uniform in 19:15.... it is Taiga right? 2 more project maybe for the animation? Heaven's feel and then Fate Hollow Atraxia.... |
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