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Mami never knew the truth. Sayaka would ideally be something similar to her....Someone who just kills monstrous things in the belief that it's heroic and protecting others.
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2011-04-22, 17:36 | Link #122 |
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Timeline 3 Mami thought Magical Girls were better off dying than becoming Witches.
Timeline 5 Madoka changed the system so all Magical Girls die before they become Witches. Guys, I told you so. Timeline 3 Mami wasn't crazy. She wasn't just freaking out over Sayaka. She was the only sane one all along. How do you feel about this? |
2011-04-22, 17:55 | Link #123 | |
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2011-04-22, 18:01 | Link #125 |
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Mami is right about how dying is likely preferable to becoming a witch.
That being said, if Mami had succeeded in her efforts in Timeline 3, Homura would have died there, preventing Timeline 5 Madoka from fixing the system, and hence preventing her from saving countless magical girls from that very same witch fate (which in turn saved the lives of those who would have been victimized by those witches). So, ultimately, Mami made the wrong choice, but for an understandable reason. It was the wrong choice because there was a better way available, and Homura and Madoka both achieved that better way.
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2011-04-22, 22:00 | Link #127 | |
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2011-04-24, 10:33 | Link #129 |
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There's a difference between killing another person and dying of natural causes. If killing magical girls before they can fall was acceptable, there would be no need to change the system, and Homura could have stopped at the third timeline we were shown. The end does not justify the means. If it did, we would be supporting Kyubey.
The difference between TL3 Mami and goddess Madoka's decisions are that Mami still had to kill a comrade, while Madoka changed the system for every girl to die from a natural process. Mami's decision was not wrong, given the predicament they were in. She did choose the lesser of two evils, but the lesser of two evils is not necessarily a permanent solution. |
2011-04-24, 10:51 | Link #130 | |
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If the ends do not justify the means then Mami made the wrong decision. Period, end of story. You can't have it both ways. Mami made the wrong decision, and I'm amazed how anybody can deny this obvious truth now. Homura and Madoka obviously found and achieved a much better way, rendering Timeline 3 Mami's decision wrong. Timeline 3 Mami's decision is somewhat understandable, but if she had not been stopped from fully acting on it, this anime would have ended much worse than it did.
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2011-04-24, 14:44 | Link #131 |
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It depends on whether you consider "the lesser of two evils" a choice between one right and one wrong or two wrongs. Different people have different opinions on the matter. What Mami did was choose between the lesser of two evils. Madoka simply rejected the question entirely and created a third answer that was never there in the original problem.
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2011-04-24, 16:53 | Link #132 | |
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The right decision is one that, if fully acted upon, will have good results (or the best possible results if not quite 'good', per se). Mami's decision is one that, if she had been allowed to fully act upon it, would have resulted in an end far worse than what this anime gave us. So, as a simple matter of logic, it was the wrong decision. That doesn't take anything away from her character. She understandably snapped. Let's leave it at that. Especially since Mami turned out pretty good in Episode 12, thankfully.
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2011-04-28, 05:28 | Link #133 |
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I already speculated on how the revelation in TL3 might have crushed Mami's self-image that she might have been upholding to keep her life meaningful. Realising that someday you'll be the very threat you opposed and that you've dragged three girls into this hell just because you didn't want to be lonely...
In contrast, there is no such danger in TL6. Under Madoka's control, the system isn't so different from how Mami viewed it originally. |
2011-05-05, 03:15 | Link #135 |
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i liked her the most
btw, "mami" means "noodles" in the philippines in episode 3 she happened to be eaten by a giant noodle hohoho boy, i think we're onto something
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2011-05-05, 04:04 | Link #136 |
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http://wiki.puella-magi.net/File:Mami_hands_2.jpg
Wow, even the Blu-Rays are inconsistent with the whole ring / fingernail thing. |
2011-05-05, 10:27 | Link #139 |
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Oh yeah... At one point her name struck me as funny because it reminded us Filipinos of a noodle soup popularized by a Chinese dimsum restaurant in Manila known as Ma Mon Luk. According to some, the name "mami" was an amalgamation of the first two letters of the owner's name plus the Chinese word for "recipe". Since then the name mami became a generic term to describe instant noodle soup packages (unlike Cup Noodles and the like).
There's another thing I noted lately with some racy fanart... seems that there's no end to the fetish over her chest and all.
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