2012-10-18, 19:41 | Link #3541 |
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Yep, that would be the literal TL. A more natural way of expression would probably be something along the lines of 'I'm being looked at'. 'Teiru' generally means 'currently (doing)' to clarify tense as the plain form alone is rather ambiguous. As an irregular verb the potential of 見る is 見える/見えられる so you can be sure it's the passive form here.
It's still pretty much the same meaning as what they've TLed it as. So long as there are no real inaccuracies, I don't believe being literal is terribly good English in many cases (the grammar and syntax are just fundamentally different).
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2012-10-18, 20:52 | Link #3542 | ||
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見えられる is not used as a potential verb as you are trying to attach the potential ending to what is already essentially a potential verb. It can be used with a completely different meaning in polite Japanese but I will not go into that. |
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2012-10-18, 23:06 | Link #3543 |
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Isn't 見える more for stuff which can be viewed with minimal effort with a similar nuance to *something coming into view* while 見られる implies a certain effort needed before that something can be seen? Same with 聞ける and 聞こえる. I wasn't aware they were interchangeable...
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2012-10-19, 04:07 | Link #3546 |
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Yeah for rendering into english puposes it's usually interchangeable...but because of that nuance, well, sometimes a different word choice in translating may be appropriate. And usage-wise...Like I said, I've never seen them used in situations where the other would fit...
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2012-11-02, 05:56 | Link #3549 |
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When Working! aired, I didn't really pay attention to why the cross-dressing Souta was nicknamed "Kotori". So I recently saw the kanji of Takanashi Rikka from this season's chuu2koi. I was perplexed that in her family name (小鳥飛) none of the kanji used can be read remotely as "Takanashi", but I can certainly see the "Kotori"
(小鳥) in there. Turns out, 小鳥飛 => 小鳥が飛ぶ (the small bird flies). Which means its enemy, the hawk/falcon isn't around (鷹無し) => たかなし (Takanashi). Are there any more names that is read uniquely like this?
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2012-11-02, 08:00 | Link #3551 |
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When it comes to names, readings tend to be a little...flexible.
I believe that particular character's name is written 「小鳥遊」(well, according to wikipedia and the official website), though Takanashi can be written both ways. You are correct on its nuance though. And I'll explain the meanings of the names JINNSK posted: 九(いちじく)=一字で九 = Literally "nine" with one character 四月朔日, also 四月一日(わたぬき)=綿を抜く=The written name literally means April 1st while the reading means 'to take the cotton out' (of your clothes). This is a reference to the old days where people would take out the cotton that was padding their clothes because the weather gets warmer in Spring. 八月朔日, also 八月一日(ほづみ)=穂を摘む = August 1st/ 'Pluck the ear of plants' (of wheat and such) because August is harvest season. 月美里, also 月見里(やまなし)=山がない=Name means 'the town where the moon is beautiful/visible' while the reading means 'no mountain' (so nothing blocks the moon). Personally I would never name a child these names, but to each his own. |
2012-11-02, 08:30 | Link #3552 |
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Interesting...How common are these names in Japan really, and how long have they been in use? Is there a "name" for this kind of readings? (like "the 4-character idioms" or something like that). This reminds me how R07 wrote 「ばとら」(Battler) as 「戦人」 in Umineko, the lone difference where everyone else uses ateji.
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2012-11-02, 17:21 | Link #3553 |
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Hue hue hue me again.
So well as always grammar, my weak point, french is totally different than japenese, nah actually I'm bad at french grammar too so whatever. The word から can be used to show either the causis (after verb or adjective) or the point of beginning (after a noun), fine I understand this. but let's take this sentence : 聞くだけわ聞いてあげるからいってみなさいよ I understand it as "Fine if it's only listening, I'm going to listen to you so ask me." Context is a brother asking a request... I guess? I can not see the word kara here being used as a causis, yet its after a verb. am I getting this wrong? |
2012-11-02, 21:45 | Link #3554 |
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Errm....I don't really understand proper terms for grammar but to me, the kara here is acting as denoting a reason for something
I would translate as If it's only listening, I'll listen, so ask away. He's saying to ask because he'll listen And the wa particle is mistyped btw I may be wrong though, just saying first....
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2012-11-03, 18:22 | Link #3555 | |
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^This is correct.
A から B B because A Basically 'ask/tell me because I'll listen'. Quote:
I am not aware of any special designation given to these names. I suppose they are a form of 'wordplay' (言葉遊び)but I can't think of anything more specific than that. |
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2012-11-03, 19:39 | Link #3557 |
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It's not weird.....The thing before the kara is the reason. This one here may look complicated to newcomers to the language because 聞くだけは聞いてあげる may seem long but it helps if you mentally break that up into parts
聞くだけは聞いてあげる The red elaborates on the blue (as in "I'll listen" further elaborates on "as it's just listening") but the whole thing serves as the reason.
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2012-11-03, 22:59 | Link #3559 | |
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