2006-06-06, 10:12 | Link #841 | |
Isn't it sad Lancer-chan?
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By the way, if Gil had been defeated in the previous war, why couldn't he have been summoned again? (please post a spoiler tagged answer, if neccesary) |
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2006-06-06, 10:13 | Link #842 | ||
見習い魔剣使い
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This Grail grants wishes through destruction. Kotomine is willing to let someone have their wish granted desperately. A granted wish through this Grail means the destruction of something. Quote:
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2006-06-06, 10:41 | Link #843 | |
~ You're dead ^__^* ~
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2006-06-06, 10:46 | Link #844 |
~Hi -mi- tsu des~
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Saber doesn't qualify for any other class other then Saber, in Heracles' case he was proficent in many weapons and styles of combat from his legend that he could fit into anyclass except Caster because he cant caste spells.
Eireis can be summoned into differant classes as long as they were proficient in that class or has some skill in that particular area I believe. |
2006-06-06, 12:28 | Link #845 | |
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2006-06-06, 14:36 | Link #852 | |
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2006-06-06, 14:54 | Link #854 | |
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2006-06-06, 15:01 | Link #855 |
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Question: How would you determine a servants class if they don't use the proper weapons for their class? I mean how can you say Shirou(archer) is not a saber class when he's using sword? Hercules would qualify as an archer and saber too, right? What if Herc was summoned as an archer. How would you know that he's an archer? For all I know, like Shirou, he'd prefer wielding his big sword. Listen to how their master calls them?
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2006-06-06, 15:29 | Link #856 |
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Shirou-Archer is unique in that respect. But more than in weapons used, it's in the method of attack. Gilgamesh is considered an Archer because he fires his weapons out of gate of babylon.
Archer-Shirou NORMALLY uses a bow, but that's not really shown until Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (as far as I know). Archer's also show independent action (battle vs. Berserker, as well as Gil's ability to survive w/o much help from Kotomine) Assassins are recognizable by their moves that are pretty much OHK and involve some alternate method of attack (Kojirous Tsubame-Gaeshi and Hassan's 'Puppet Move') Lancers use lances. Casters use magic. Riders ride stuff and are more suitable for stealth attacks imo. Sabers of course use predominantly swords and are pretty well rounded. This is how i see it |
2006-06-06, 18:09 | Link #858 | ||
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Archer normally doesn't have sword proficiency. It's when Archer Traces a sword, he automatically gains mastery with the blade through the memories of the sword. Also, Archer's stats are far too low for him to qualify as Saber. On the other hand, Archer used to be the top archery club member before he quit, hence the Archer Class.
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2006-06-06, 18:37 | Link #859 | |
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Also, Archer class Servants also have an advantage when using their extensive abilities, IIRC. So it's really not disadvantageous for both Gilgamesh and Archer to classify as Archers, what with UBW and Gate of Babylon.
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