[Umineko] Fan Fic EPX-4

[Kitsu]

Please recite:
Gohda is an asshole
-Gohda never left the guesthouse before Rosa found S&K
-Gohda never killed anyone

[Kets]

Ah, sorry. I misread the story a bit.

Please recite in red:
Hideyoshi died from a blunt weapon.
Hideyoshi died because he had ties to the killer.
At the time right before death, Hideyoshi knew who the killer was.
A person is declared a twilight once he or she is dead.
No person has died from an aerial assault (IE a weapon that was dropped from a point in the sky that was not touching the island killed someone.)
Maria is innocent of all murders.
Maria killed someone unintentionally.
Hideyoshi was unintentionally killed by Maria.
Someone was killed by the rose Maria lost.
The unknown victim of the 1st twilight was killed before the 2nd twilight.
There were no suicides during the twilights on the island.

[Marion]

Originally Posted by Kitsu

Please recite:
Gohda is an asshole
-Gohda never left the guesthouse before Rosa found S&K
-Gohda never killed anyone

Originally Posted by Kets

Ah, sorry. I misread the story a bit.

Please recite in red:
Hideyoshi died from a blunt weapon.
Hideyoshi died because he had ties to the killer.
At the time right before death, Hideyoshi knew who the killer was.
A person is declared a twilight once he or she is dead.
No person has died from an aerial assault (IE a weapon that was dropped from a point in the sky that was not touching the island killed someone.)
Maria is innocent of all murders.
Maria killed someone unintentionally.
Hideyoshi was unintentionally killed by Maria.
Someone was killed by the rose Maria lost.
The unknown victim of the 1st twilight was killed before the 2nd twilight.
There were no suicides during the twilights on the island.

-Gohda never left the guest hotel before Rosa found Shannon and Kanon.
-Hideyoshi died from a blunt weapon.
-Hideyoshi died knowing who his killer was.
-A person is declared a twilight once they are dead.
-No person died from aerial assault.
-Twilight victim X died before the 2nd Twilight occurred.


Gohda never killed anyone
There were no suicides during the twilights on the island.
Maria is innocent of all murders.
Maria killed someone unintentionally.
Hideyoshi was unintentionally killed by Maria.
Someone was killed by the rose Maria lost.
Hideyoshi died because he had ties to the killer
I refuse to repeat these!

And on that note, how about a little challenge. Win and you get to pick from a special prize:

Spoiler for Fabulous prizes:

– TIPs for certain characters (before and after death included) (TIPs are liable to change, depending on what parts of the mystery is solved)
– Detective Logs (Detective Logs are little journals, written through the perspective of a detective investigating the murders. There are 6 of these.)
– Investigation Logs (Logs from the perspective of detectives recording notes about the bodies during investigation on Rokkenjima. There are X amount of these (the number will be given when someone requests for one) and there are only existing logs for bodies found on the island.)
– To pick out a theory already presented in the topic and request to know how many statements are right (if not stated before) and which ones are wrong. This option can only be used on any theories posted on the thread already, not new theories you want to present after solving. Silly theories do not apply to this rule.
*New*- Corpse exam (check the corpse directly after death to see if they had anything useful on them when they died)

Note: There is a difference between Investigation and Dectective Logs.
Detective Logs are written by a detective involved, but does not actually talk much about the bodies. These logs more or less chronicle the days of the three survivors before and after their vanishing acts.
Investigation Logs are written by a detective on the actual island, talking about the bodies

And here is your little challenge:

Spoiler for Spoiler for Umineko EP 3:

Near the ending of the episode, during Battler and Eva-Beatrice's logic battle, Eva-Beatrice made an arguement against Battler that almost cost him the game. But then Beatrice helped him by examining the corpses of Rudolph, Kyrie and Hideyoshi and found something in Kyrie's pocket to help him. What was this thing?

Note: Be very specific with this answer.

EDIT: Also, I made a small mistake with one of the red truths concerning when Ange and Jessica disappeared. It was on November 4th 1986. Nothing too damaging though, so my bad~

[hodil]

Spoiler for Anwser:

-Beatrice found a cigarette bud in Kyrie's pocket.
-The cigarette bud did not belong to Rudolph.
-It was Hideyoshi's.
-Kyrie picked it up from the ashtray in Eva's room.
-Which means that, since Eva hated smoke, and Hideyoshi smoked in her room, Eva was not in the room.
-Therefore Eva's actions could not be justified any longer.

Rosa was the one who planted the letter at Shannon's and Kanon's corpse.

Please recite:

-Kinzo died before the second twilight.
-Kinzo was not aware of who the culprit was.
-Maria was aware of who the culprit was.
-Kanon and Shannon did not get into a fight at the rose garden.
-Rosa brought her tea leaves to Rokkenjima.
-Kanon struggled against the killer.
-Kanon and Shannon were both weaker than the killer.
-When Hideyoshi died. There were a total of five corpses in the parlour.


Define Killer and Culprit.

[Marion]

Originally Posted by hodil

Spoiler for Anwser:

-Beatrice found a cigarette bud in Kyrie's pocket.
-The cigarette bud did not belong to Rudolph.
-It was Hideyoshi's.
-Kyrie picked it up from the ashtray in Eva's room.
-Which means that, since Eva hated smoke, and Hideyoshi smoked in her room, Eva was not in the room.
-Therefore Eva's actions could not be justified any longer.

Rosa was the one who planted the letter at Shannon's and Kanon's corpse.

Please recite:

-Kinzo died before the second twilight.
-Kinzo was not aware of who the culprit was.
-Maria was aware of who the culprit was.
-Kanon and Shannon did not get into a fight at the rose garden.
-Rosa brought her tea leaves to Rokkenjima.
-Kanon struggled against the killer.
-Kanon and Shannon were both weaker than the killer.
-When Hideyoshi died. There were a total of five corpses in the parlour.


Define Killer and Culprit.

Your answer is right, hodil~ Pick your poison prize

Your theory is wrong

-Kinzo was not aware who the culprit was
-Maria was aware of who the culprit was
-Kanon and Shannon did not get into a fight at the rose garden
-Rosa brought tea leaves to Rokkenjima
-Kanon struggled against the killer
-When Hideyoshi died there were 5 corpses in total in the parlor.

Kinzo died before the second twilight.
Kanon and Shannon were both weaker than the killer.
I refuse to repeat these.

Culprit: A person who plans out mass-murders.
Killer: A person who kills someone, not including themselves.
Note: A killer becomes a culprit after they killed at least 3 people in this game.

[hodil]

Note: A killer becomes a culprit after they killed at least 3 people in this game.

WOAH.... brought the game to a whole new level.

I cant think of anything right now...(dont rejoice witch)

– TIPs for certain characters

Means i can ask for many people =P But i shall not kill the game...I shall ask TIPS for three people.

Maria Time: After death
Gohda Time: After death
Kinzo Time: Before the second twilight.

[Marion]

Originally Posted by hodil

WOAH.... brought the game to a whole new level.

I cant think of anything right now...(dont rejoice witch)

– TIPs for certain characters

Means i can ask for many people =P But i shall not kill the game...I shall ask TIPS for three people.

Maria Time: After death
Gohda Time: After death
Kinzo Time: Before the second twilight.

H-Hey I mean only one character at a time. 'Characters' as in there is more than one character in this game >(!! I'll let you slip this time, but next time don't pull that silly wordplay stuff with me, or I'll deny every red text in the world >O!!!!

Spoiler for Maria after death:

Missing

In a defying act she went against the witch. The witch meant no harm to her, but she brought it upon herself.

Maria is one of the 3 missing bodies. Now figure out how she died and I'll update her TIPs again

Spoiler for Gohda after death:

Killed on the 6th Twilight.

Why did he go to the mansion to die?

Gohda died on the 6th twilight.

Spoiler for Kinzo after 2nd twilight:

Alive?

Genji said he was alive so he’s alive. Why distrust the faithful furniture?

[Kitsu]

-Genji was not killed by the culprit
-Gohda shot him cause he felt threatened
-Then Gohda took off scared and shocked by himself noticing the
bad smell as well
-Genji lied for god knows reason about Kinzo's live span

[Marion]

-Gohda did not kill Genji
-Kinzo was not in his study when Genji went to check on him.

[Kitsu]

-Kinzo is the "missing" sacrifice of the first twilight


-Genji was the killer of Shannon and Kanon
-He met both at the rose garden searching for his master
-He heard them converse about something and decided to kill them
-Shannon was caught by surprise or let herself getting killed because she was/is furniture


-Someone on Rokkenjima became mentally ill

That someone was indeed George

[Kets]

-Someone was killed by Natsuhi's pills.

[Marion]

-Kinzo is the X person for the 1st twilight
-The 1st twilight victims are Kumasawa, Rudolph, Eva, Nanjo, Kyrie and Kinzo
-Kitsu's theory on Genji is wrong
-George became mentally ill
-No one was killed using Natsuhi's pills

Also: I got my internet back today, so I should be around more often to conduct business. We probably don't live around the same timezone so I suggest you flood me with stuff to repeat so you don't wait on me or anything n-n;

[hodil]

You're game is intriguing... i wonder whether if it is more or less difficult than mine =P

Alright... Time to recite the most important thingy:

-Kinzo was not impersonated

EDIT

WAAAAAITTT.... I never thought u would recite this but... u did o0

-When Hideyoshi died there were 5 corpses in total in the parlor.

Kuuuuh! Out of Rudolph, Kyrie, Kumasawa, Eva and Nanjo. One of them faked their deaths!

[Marion]

Originally Posted by hodil

You're game is intriguing... i wonder whether if it is more or less difficult than mine =P

Alright... Time to recite the most important thingy:

-Kinzo was not impersonated

EDIT

WAAAAAITTT.... I never thought u would recite this but... u did o0

-When Hideyoshi died there were 5 corpses in total in the parlor.

Kuuuuh! Out of Rudolph, Kyrie, Kumasawa, Eva and Nanjo. One of them faked their deaths!

-Kinzo was not impersonated.

Hahaha~ Poor you - just because 5 corpses were in there doesn't mean that something nasty occurred. You still need to prove to me certain elements that make you believe someone actually faked death and killed Hideyoshi - for instance, why couldn't it be Genji?

-When Genji was preparing to leave the mansion, Hideyoshi was already inside of it! They even crossed paths!

Not to mention Rosa's little theory on Krauss doing it. Please explain to me why you think they couldn't have done it? Don't think putting a statement in blue without going through all the walls of red you have yet to find will assure you victory~

[hodil]

the witch often panics and gives a lot of info and questions the player when the player is spot on .... at least i did =P

Yes yes one of them did faked their deaths.


-Genji is an accomplice.
-Genji was killed by the culprit.
-Gohda was not the culprit nor was he an accomplice.
-Genji told Gohda to leave the guesthouse on suspicion that one of the adults in the guesthouse was the culprit =P

[Marion]

Originally Posted by hodil

the witch often panics and gives a lot of info and questions the player when the player is spot on .... at least i did =P

Yes yes one of them did faked their deaths.


-Genji is an accomplice.
-Genji was killed by the culprit.
-Gohda was not the culprit nor was he an accomplice.
-Genji told Gohda to leave the guesthouse on suspicion that one of the adults in the guesthouse was the culprit =P

-Genji is not an accomplice to anyone. This doesn't mean that he can't be a killer on his own though~

And whose panicking? This game has hardly just begun~

[hodil]

mhmm mhmm mhmm

mhmm mhmm mhmm

Well well well... lets take it easy.

-Hideyoshi did not see Genji
-Genji did not see Hideyoshi

[Marion]

-Genji saw Hideyoshi
-Hideyoshi did not see Genji

[hodil]

excellent excellent excellent

-Genji knows who the culprit is

[Marion]

-Before dying Genji knew who the culprit was