AnimeSuki Forums

woxx · 2011-01-12, 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vexx

Sudden thought (because this IS asian literature ya know)... she LETS them do her in because she thinks she's lost Lawrence and simply doesn't want to exist anymore. OK, now THAT depressed me, time to go slay some orcs.

This can not happen. http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=662

nsmcho · 2011-01-12, 06:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by woxx

This can not happen. http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=662

Huh ?
What is this book? A Side story?
If this really is the far future, it sucks.

poleno · 2011-01-12, 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsmcho

Huh ?
What is this book? A Side story?
If this really is the far future, it sucks.

Yes, this is a side story. Volume 6, if i remember correctly.
And this is future.
And some people guess, that it's a happy end... But nobody knows minds of author.

nsmcho · 2011-01-12, 08:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleno

Yes, this is a side story. Volume 6, if i remember correctly.
And this is future.
And some people guess, that it's a happy end... But nobody knows minds of author.

Disappointing ...
So, the story basically is :
Horo likes a "young boy" and she becomes the "god of a good harvest" of his town.
Then she likes Lawrence, she travels with him and she becomes the god of a good harvest of another land? ...

woxx · 2011-01-12, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleno

Yes, this is a side story. Volume 6, if i remember correctly.
And this is future.
And some people guess, that it's a happy end... But nobody knows minds of author.

No, it's not a volume. That small book comes with DVD of Ookami to Koushinryou II Episode 0, but I may be wrong too.

woxx · 2011-01-12, 09:33

And the most tragic ending is that Lawrence could die, but not Holo, I guess.

Vexx · 2011-01-12, 12:54

One of the stories of Lazurus Long (by Robert Heinlein) delves into the love between the "long lived" and the "mayflies". It was published in 1973 and included in his "Time Enough For Love" anthologies, called "The Tale of the Adopted Daughter". Its quite lovely and sad at the same time, instructive for Spice & Wolf fans I think.

The same book has a story called, "The Tale of the Twins Who Weren't" ... which pokes holes at the incest taboo.

poleno · 2011-01-12, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vexx

One of the stories of Lazurus Long (by Robert Heinlein) .

Is it include a story about "mayflies" women who kills herself when she realizes that her man is "long lived"? I don't remember the author.

Vexx · 2011-01-12, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleno

Is it include a story about "mayflies" women who kills herself when she realizes that her man is "long lived"? I don't remember the author.

I don't recall that incident... but its been a decade or two since I've read the series.

JThree · 2011-01-15, 08:41

I still wonder how hard we'll all take it -- if it's a downer ending. At the rate we're (the English readers) going, it'll be years before we know how the series is resolved, and the longer the anticipation grows, the harder will be the letdown (if, and if, it resolves with heartbreak).

And the way the story is setup, it is a legitimate possibility.

JThree

seaghyn16 · 2011-01-23, 08:10

I thought I'd set this sad, foul mood arest. So I used wikipedia. Here's my source:

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%8B%...%99#7.E5.B7.BB

Without going into too much detail, it just says something like, "Before Horo began her journey with Lawrence.....ten year old boy, Klaus."

Simple and sweet. This story is about the 'before,' not the 'after,' though that doesn't mean the author could do the same thing anyway for the after, just that it hasn't been done yet.

A couple blogs support that rendition. Also, this is volume 7, side stories. Volume 6 is a normal volume...

EDIT:

Okay, so I went back and found out that the novel he was talking about, wasn't a volume. It was the visual novel for the spice and wolf series.
[狼と金の麦穂]

The sad news is that the blogs I've looked at for this work, seem to be of a similar opinion (though there is disagreement), that this takes place after the original Spice and Wolf novels.

That sucks...but it very may well be a little different from what you might be thinking...

EDIT2:

Spoiler for maybe future:

nsmcho · 2011-01-23, 11:01

Wow that would be silly. It kinda reveals the end even before Hasekura writes the last volume...and this visual novel was released a long time ago.

SakuraAyanami · 2011-01-26, 03:16

unless the author had something to do with the making of that visual novel I don't consider it cannon. It lays more on the category of anime filler which I tend to ignore completely for the character always end up out of character with a single trait as their personality.

Rajura · 2011-01-26, 05:58

Well, it was not so much a visual novel as it was a short story with lots of pictures. Though I have it, I still don't know what to think of it. I'll make my decision after the last novel comes out.

seaghyn16 · 2011-02-01, 06:45

February 10, 2011....Volume 16....seems this is the end of the series! (though it also seems there will be a side-story type volume 17 released sometime in the summer)

Kaguya · 2011-02-01, 13:57

The following is an extract of the interview to Araki Hitomi who is a Dengekibunko editor.

By the 16th volume that will be released on February 10, an original story reaches to the last chapter at last.
The event related to the big trade by which precautionary measures were taken beforehand from the middle stage of the story is completed by this volume.
Next, the 17th volume that collected the short story is due to be released at the early summer time, and the novelettes of the newly-written work describing the end of a travel of peddler Lawrence and Wise Wolf Holo are due to be collected.
"Spice and Wolf" is completed by this 17th volume at last.
Please see the last of their travel with your own eyes for whether "the story in which happiness continues all the time" which was a theme of this work exists!

It seems that the end of their travel is collected by Vol.17 Side Colors.

The following is an extract from author's blog on January 10.

The 16th volume of "Spice and Wolf" comes out next month.
It is equivalent to the last volume in an original story.
In construction, because I was never able to write that and this, I plans to write them separately. So the story continues for a moment.
However, I think that you understand what Lawrence and Holo will do after all if you read this.

I think that Vol.16 has the happy ending, and Vol.17 has the story which make the reader cry.
Probably, Vol.17 is a story between Vol.16 and Kin no Mugiho.
The end of a travel may mean the end of life's journey instead of Yoits.

tyranuus · 2011-02-01, 17:12

And its going to take so long for it to be in my hands in english

Another 7 years is going to be painful (based on Yen not releasing the side stories at the same time as a main novel, and not upping the release schedule)

Rajura · 2011-02-01, 21:04

So, does that mean Volume XVII (which I will dub Side Colors IV in anticipation of a formal title) will have all the short stories yet to be collected into Volume format? ... I can only hope!

Come on Hasekura... don't let me down!

Thank you very much for the update Kaguya!!!!

poleno · 2011-02-01, 22:49

Yep.
Thanks, Kaguya.

Vexx · 2011-02-02, 21:41

I'm really thinking about that Heinlein short story of the "immortal" (Lazurus) and his "mortal" love told in that epic At Long Last Love story collection... how that story arc ended specifically.

2011-01-12, 12:54	Link #1407
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	One of the stories of Lazurus Long (by Robert Heinlein) delves into the love between the "long lived" and the "mayflies". It was published in 1973 and included in his "Time Enough For Love" anthologies, called "The Tale of the Adopted Daughter". Its quite lovely and sad at the same time, instructive for Spice & Wolf fans I think. The same book has a story called, "The Tale of the Twins Who Weren't" ... which pokes holes at the incest taboo. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2011-01-23, 08:10	Link #1411
seaghyn16 Translator Level 4/10 Join Date: Feb 2008	I thought I'd set this sad, foul mood arest. So I used wikipedia. Here's my source: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%8B%...%99#7.E5.B7.BB Without going into too much detail, it just says something like, "Before Horo began her journey with Lawrence.....ten year old boy, Klaus." Simple and sweet. This story is about the 'before,' not the 'after,' though that doesn't mean the author could do the same thing anyway for the after, just that it hasn't been done yet. A couple blogs support that rendition. Also, this is volume 7, side stories. Volume 6 is a normal volume... EDIT: Okay, so I went back and found out that the novel he was talking about, wasn't a volume. It was the visual novel for the spice and wolf series. [狼と金の麦穂] The sad news is that the blogs I've looked at for this work, seem to be of a similar opinion (though there is disagreement), that this takes place after the original Spice and Wolf novels. That sucks...but it very may well be a little different from what you might be thinking... EDIT2: Spoiler for maybe future: Pretty much a lot of other blogs confirm that upon reading the visual novel, that was the impression they had. That it takes place after Horo and Lawrence's journey. But they also mention that no time frame has technically been specified, so ten years after, or fifty years after, etc. But most likely, Spice and Wolf will end with the separation of Horo and Lawrence, or at least with Lawrence dying of old age, and Horo living on afterwards, perhaps in the village they lived in. There's no definite, except that Horo is alone, and is most likely reflecting back on her time with Lawrence, which could have been until they reached Yoitsu, or spanned Lawrence's lifetime. __________________ Rain: Warrior Born on a Rainy Day - novels translation site. Last edited by seaghyn16; 2011-01-24 at 02:46.

2011-01-26, 05:58	Link #1414
Rajura My wolfu is >> your waifu Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Charleston, West Virginia Age: 42	Well, it was not so much a visual novel as it was a short story with lots of pictures. Though I have it, I still don't know what to think of it. I'll make my decision after the last novel comes out. __________________ Primary Faith: Christianity Secondary Faith: Holoism

2011-02-01, 06:45	Link #1415
seaghyn16 Translator Level 4/10 Join Date: Feb 2008	February 10, 2011....Volume 16....seems this is the end of the series! (though it also seems there will be a side-story type volume 17 released sometime in the summer) __________________ Rain: Warrior Born on a Rainy Day - novels translation site.

2011-02-01, 17:12	Link #1417
tyranuus Team Spice and Wolf UK Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: England Age: 36	And its going to take so long for it to be in my hands in english Another 7 years is going to be painful (based on Yen not releasing the side stories at the same time as a main novel, and not upping the release schedule) __________________ Total Anime watched= Enough. What can I say? I'm a convert... *** PRAY FOR SPICE AND WOLF III and faster Yenpress novel releases! Reading: None at the moment

2011-01-12, 09:33	Link #1406
woxx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: eastern europe :(	And the most tragic ending is that Lawrence could die, but not Holo, I guess.

2011-01-15, 08:41	Link #1410
JThree Member Join Date: Sep 2010	I still wonder how hard we'll all take it -- if it's a downer ending. At the rate we're (the English readers) going, it'll be years before we know how the series is resolved, and the longer the anticipation grows, the harder will be the letdown (if, and if, it resolves with heartbreak). And the way the story is setup, it is a legitimate possibility. JThree

2011-01-23, 11:01	Link #1412
nsmcho Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Age: 42	Wow that would be silly. It kinda reveals the end even before Hasekura writes the last volume...and this visual novel was released a long time ago.

2011-01-26, 03:16	Link #1413
SakuraAyanami Skies Of Dawn Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: My house	unless the author had something to do with the making of that visual novel I don't consider it cannon. It lays more on the category of anime filler which I tend to ignore completely for the character always end up out of character with a single trait as their personality.

2011-02-01, 13:57	Link #1416
Kaguya an idler Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Suzuka	The following is an extract of the interview to Araki Hitomi who is a Dengekibunko editor. By the 16th volume that will be released on February 10, an original story reaches to the last chapter at last. The event related to the big trade by which precautionary measures were taken beforehand from the middle stage of the story is completed by this volume. Next, the 17th volume that collected the short story is due to be released at the early summer time, and the novelettes of the newly-written work describing the end of a travel of peddler Lawrence and Wise Wolf Holo are due to be collected. "Spice and Wolf" is completed by this 17th volume at last. Please see the last of their travel with your own eyes for whether "the story in which happiness continues all the time" which was a theme of this work exists! It seems that the end of their travel is collected by Vol.17 Side Colors. The following is an extract from author's blog on January 10. The 16th volume of "Spice and Wolf" comes out next month. It is equivalent to the last volume in an original story. In construction, because I was never able to write that and this, I plans to write them separately. So the story continues for a moment. However, I think that you understand what Lawrence and Holo will do after all if you read this. I think that Vol.16 has the happy ending, and Vol.17 has the story which make the reader cry. Probably, Vol.17 is a story between Vol.16 and Kin no Mugiho. The end of a travel may mean the end of life's journey instead of Yoits.

2011-02-01, 21:04	Link #1418
Rajura My wolfu is >> your waifu Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Charleston, West Virginia Age: 42	So, does that mean Volume XVII (which I will dub Side Colors IV in anticipation of a formal title) will have all the short stories yet to be collected into Volume format? ... I can only hope! Come on Hasekura... don't let me down! Thank you very much for the update Kaguya!!!! __________________ Primary Faith: Christianity Secondary Faith: Holoism

2011-02-01, 22:49	Link #1419
poleno Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Chantilly, Virginia	Yep. Thanks, Kaguya.

2011-02-02, 21:41	Link #1420
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	I'm really thinking about that Heinlein short story of the "immortal" (Lazurus) and his "mortal" love told in that epic At Long Last Love story collection... how that story arc ended specifically. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!