International Saimoe League 2012

[ultimatemegax]

I am quite pleased that Mikuru was able to move on to the regular season. The Haruhi fanbase often forgets about her for the other female SOS Brigade members and the anti-fans hold her up as an example of "what is wrong about anime." A third season would help her popularity immensely.

[hinakatbklyn]

My favorites to support or vote for (if I'm still interested)

Nova:
Group 0 (Absolute support): Kuroneko, Hasegawa Kobato, Charlotte Dunois
Group 1 (Top Tier): Haqua, Nakagawa Kanon, Fear, Yui-nyan, Nakamura Yuri, Sakura Kyouko
Group 2 (Above Average): Erio Touwa, Kanade Tachibana, Shimada Minami, Shiomiya Shiori, Akemi Homura, Haruna, Shouko, Kashiwazaki Sena, Elucia
Group 3 (Might also support or vote for): Mizuki, Aria, Kurisu, Kirino

Stella:
Group 0 (Absolute support): Hinagiku, Fujibayashi Kyou
* (Misaka Mikoto is in between since she won the tiara)
Group 1 (Top Tier): Akiyama Mio, Tosaka Rin, Sengoku Nadeko, Azusa Nakano, Last Order
Group 2 (Above Average): Yui Hirasawa, Suzumiya Haruhi, Nymph, Sanzen'in Nagi, Shinobu, Konjiki no Yami, Hiiragi Kagami
Group 3 (Might also support): Nagisa, Holo, Louise, Mafuyu, Illyasviel

The rest I either don't have enough room or don't expect to support after preliminary results.

[Game8910]

Since we are doing this:

Stella:
Tier 0 (Mai goddess and I cannot go against mai goddess): Shana
Tier 1 (Will always vote except against Shana or each other): Nagato, Mafuyu
Tier 2 (I am on your side): Ikaros, Nymph, Azusa, Taiga, Hina, Hecate, Haruhi, Mio
Tier 3 (I dont care really): the rest
Tier 4 (BECAUSE ANTI-VOTING MAKES YOU COOL): Mikoto, Nadeko, Tomoyo

Nova:
Tier 0 (She is mai waifu and I cannot cheat on mai waifu): Nakagawa Kanon
Tier 1 (Will always vote except against Kanon or each other): Haqua, Elsie, Eucliwood
Tier 2 (I am on your side): Aria, Sena, Shoko, Shiori, Ayase, Minami, Kuroneko
Tier 3 (Only if you are going vs someone in a lower tier): Yozora, Victorique, Homura, Erio
Tier 4 (I dont care really): the rest
Tier 5 (BECAUSE ANTI-VOTING MAKES YOU COOL): Iwasawa, Yui, Kanade(Tenshi), Charlotte

[DisarestaX]

This whole year is worth skipping. Until next year then...

[Dhomochevsky]

Clicking through all the results, it seems like russia is always countervoting everyone else.

Guys, you are taking the 'in soviet russia' joke too far.

[Eater of All]

/late

Generally decent results, I suppose. I didn't feel much for the participants in the Nova part, though Shouko, Menma, and Elsie are great victories. Yuno > Ika Musume on the other hand, not really. I lol'd at the Sora > Madoka; I can't wait to see the rage in ISML forums.

And Fate officially exits the ISML arena, releasing Demi and other Fate fans from torture forever.

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by Eater of All

/late

Generally decent results, I suppose. I didn't feel much for the participants in the Nova part, though Shouko, Menma, and Elsie are great victories. Yuno > Ika Musume on the other hand, not really. I lol'd at the Sora > Madoka; I can't wait to see the rage in ISML forums.

And Fate officially exits the ISML arena, releasing Demi and other Fate fans from torture forever.

WAIT!!! Fate is scheduled to appear in exhibition matches this year.

[Ahasuerus]

Originally Posted by wontaek

WAIT!!! Fate is scheduled to appear in exhibition matches this year.

Aw :-( Why do I see images of ex-champion boxer & "washed-up" Anthony Quinn hanging on by having to enter wrestling exhibitions?

("Requiem for a Heavyweight" ref)

[KholdStare]

I'd like to remind everyone that Fate Testarossa will be in the first exhibition match.

[CrowKenobi]

And how many more after that?

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by KholdStare

I'd like to remind everyone that Fate Testarossa will be in the first exhibition match.

And I am expecting some Nanoha-Fate Fan to write 1000 word essay about it.

[Rajura]

Originally Posted by KholdStare

I'd like to remind everyone that Fate Testarossa will be in the first exhibition match.

Well, I hope she wins... but that is a bit hard to see.

I dread the day Holo is relegated to that... oh that she would get another season and delay that fate.

I don't know how I feel about seeing Fate or some of the other vets in the exhibitions... might it be better to let them "retire" with dignity? I honestly don't know. *sigh*

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by Rajura

I don't know how I feel about seeing Fate or some of the other vets in the exhibitions... might it be better to let them "retire" with dignity? I honestly don't know. *sigh*

I think it is best to let the voters decide that answer.

[Nochgo]

After forgetting about ISML for a good month or so, I come back to see Fate out of the regular tournament. After raging for a minute, I, somewhat happily, think to myself: guess I don't have to worry about (raging with) ISML this year. Then I read that shes gonna be in the first exhibition match... I guess I'll be sticking around a bit longer

[Team Rocket Elite]

For those interested, here are my stats ranking the characters that made preliminaries.

Legend:
Bold - Advanced through Preliminary Phase 1
Green - Advanced through Preliminary Phase 2
Blue - Advanced through Preliminary Phase 3
Black - Preliminary Phase 3 Finalist
Red - Lost in Round 1 of Phase 3

Assume fairly large margins of error but I like to think these numbers aren't too far off reality in most cases.

Spoiler for Character Ranking after Preliminary 3-3:

Shana - 62.49
Aisaka Taiga - 60.75
Misaka Mikoto - 59.69
Nakano Azusa - 58.97
Akiyama Mio - 56.67
Nagato Yuki - 55.43
Saber - 53.85
Katsura Hinagiku - 53.62
Suzumiya Haruhi - 53.08
Senjōgahara Hitagi - 52.71
Sengoku Nadeko - 51.12
Oshino Shinobu - 46.78
----------
Illyasviel von Einzbern - 45.78
Sakagami Tomoyo - 45.03
Hirasawa Yui - 44.49
Tōsaka Rin - 44.28
Louise Vallière - 42.48
Ikaros - 42.44
Last Order - 41.52
Holo - 40.43
----------
Asahina Mikuru - 40.34
Fujibayashi Kyō - 40.23
C.C. - 39.72
Furukawa Nagisa - 39.57
Hirasawa Ui - 39.39
Sanzen'in Nagi - 39.22
Hiiragi Kagami - 39.05
Konjiki no Yami - 39.02
Ichinose Kotomi - 38.64
Izumi Konata - 38.63
Kotobuki Tsumugi - 38.42
Nymph - 38.4
Index L. Prohibitorum - 37.22
Hecate - 36.1
Shiina Mafuyu - 35.89
Ibuki Fūko - 35.39
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Shirai Kuroko - 34.79
Fate Testarossa - 34.37
Saten Ruiko - 34.29
Kushieda Minori - 34.23
Tainaka Ritsu - 34.18
Okazaki Ushio - 33.88
Kawashima Ami - 33.56
Sakurano Kurimu - 33.54
Takamachi Nanoha - 33.15
Hiiragi Tsukasa - 33.1
Lala Satalin Deviluke - 32.46
Yūki Mikan - 32.37
Kotegawa Yui - 32.11
Maria - 31.6
Hanekawa Tsubasa - 31.09
Furude Rika - 30.99
----------
Kinomoto Sakura - 30.93
Saginomiya Isumi - 30.79
Kanzaki Kaori - 30.68
Kawasumi Mai - 30.18
Erza Scarlet - 29.36
Lucy Heartfilia - 27.5
Ryūgū Rena - 27.42
Chii - 27.38
Alice - 26.73
Tsukimiya Ayu - 26.18
Isayama Yomi - 25.9
Uiharu Kazari - 25.7
Hanato Kobato - 25.55
Ryōgi Shiki - 25.38
Sōryū Asuka Langley - 25.37
Suiseiseki - 25.32
Ayanami Rei - 25
Yin - 24.03
Evangeline A.K. McDowell - 23.18
Kōzuki Kallen - 23
Chrome Dokuro - 22.83
Enma Ai - 22.75
Hinamori Amu - 22.72
Kamio Misuzu - 22.54
Suigintō - 20.57
Kuronuma Sawako - 20.27
Kagura - 20.06
Shinku - 20
Hoshina Utau - 19.38
Kuchiki Rukia - 18.38
Haibara Ai - 18.22
Hyūga Hinata - 18.18

Tachibana Kanade - 72.78
Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) - 58.22
Eucliwood Hellscythe - 51.09
Yui - 50.23
Nakamura Yuri - 48.82
Hasegawa Kobato - 48.35
Kashiwazaki Sena - 47.5
Kōsaka Kirino - 46.87
Charlotte Dunois - 45.26
Kuroi Mato - 45.26
Victorique de Blois - 43.54
Yuzuriha Inori - 42.5
----------
Makise Kurisu - 42
Akemi Homura - 41.5
Mikazuki Yozora - 40.26
Tōwa Erio - 40
Iwasawa Asami - 39.51
Kanzaki H. Aria - 39.48
Elucia de Lute Irma - 38.5
Haruna - 38.35
----------
Kirishima Shōko - 38
Irisviel von Einzbern - 37.99
Haqua du Lot Herminium - 36.79
Himeji Mizuki - 36.58
Shiomiya Shiori - 36.08
Nakagawa Kanon - 36.03
Aragaki Ayase - 35.84
Suzutsuki Kanade - 35.5
Konoe Subaru - 35
Mine Riko - 34.95
Hotogi Shirayuki - 34.6
Shimada Minami - 34.58
Fear Kubrick - 34.2
Kasugano Sora - 33.86
Honma Meiko - 33.47
Shinomiya Ayase - 32.5
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Matsumae Ohana - 31.88
Tomoe Mami - 31.48
Shionji Yūko (Alice) - 30.95
Sakura Kyōko - 30.65
Tsugumi - 30.5
Shinonono Hōki - 30.44
Ayuzawa Misaki - 30.38
Gasai Yuno - 30.33
Laura Bodewig - 29.77
Kaname Madoka - 29.49
Ika-Musume - 29.2
Reki - 28.8
Sena Airi - 28.51
Taneshima Poplar - 28.5
Takahara Ayumi - 27.8
Toshinō Kyōko - 27
----------
Ueno Kirika - 27
Minato Tomoka - 27
Tsurugi Minko - 27
Yarizui Sen - 26.92
Morishima Haruka - 26.75
Hakamada Hinata - 26.5
Dalian - 26.5
Amaha Miu - 26.1
Akaza Akari - 26
Shiina Mayuri - 26
Yamada Aoi - 26
Wendy Marvell - 25.9
Horizon Ariadust (P-01s) - 25.8
Nanasaki Ai - 25.6
Inui Sana - 24.75
Kaga Rin - 24
Oikawa Tsurara - 23.5
Miki Sayaka - 23.32
Anjō Naruko - 22.6
Kisaragi Chihaya - 21.5
Kunieda Aoi - 21.5
Oshimizu Nako - 21.5
Hoshii Miki - 21
Astarotte Ygvar - 20.45
Yune - 20
Uryū Minene - 19.7
Shinonome Hakase - 19
Inami Mahiru - 19
Shinonome Nano - 18
Ayase Chihaya - 17
Amami Haruka - 17
Takakura Himari - 15.33

Stella for the most part went as my stats expected things to go down. Fuuko vs Kuroko is well within the margin of error so it's possible the 36 absolutely strongest characters made it into the regular tournament. At least from a strength perspective, no one got snubbed like Ikaros was last year. Well, this is just covering characters that made it through nominations. I would have liked to have seen if the Fire Sisters were able to give the lower end of the top 36 a challenge.

In terms of Nova, Sakura Kyōko and Gasai Yuno are looking to retroactively justify they are strong enough to make the main tournament. Yuno looked borderline strong enough in Phase I but seems to have fallen since then. Sakura Kyouko was supposed to qualify easily before diving like crazy. I think the two of them got fairly lucky to advance so they should work hard to show that it wasn't a waste to give them a spot.

Hotogi Shirayuki gets to be Ikaros this year. Very unlucky to draw Nakagawa Kanon in Phase III since there were quite a few characters Shirayuki would have a good chance to beat that ended up advancing. Shinomiya Ayase was a bit unlucky Menma was a reasonable opponent to face and she wasn't quite able to pull it off and add another Hanazawa Kana character to the main tournament.

One character to put a bunch of question marks beside is Akemi Homura. Just how strong is she? She did beat Shouko and Irisviel von Einzbern which is pretty good. In the seeding match of questionable fairness, Homura beats Eucliwood Hellscythe and nearly matches Kuroneko. Neither of these performances is as good as the time she nearly beats Kuroneko 1 on 1 in another questionably relevant post season exhibition match. The results Homura has had aren't that consistent and her last match was before the other Madoka characters seemed to crash. I've got a stat down for Homura but it wouldn't be out of the question for Homura to be bumped up to Kuroneko's level or pushed down to Kasugano Sora's level. It's probably more likely that she crashed with the other Madoka characters so I think her rank is going to come down a lot in Aquamarine but we'll see.

[Ichuki]

Originally Posted by Team Rocket Elite

For those interested, here are my stats ranking the characters that made preliminaries.

Legend:
Bold - Advanced through Preliminary Phase 1
Green - Advanced through Preliminary Phase 2
Blue - Advanced through Preliminary Phase 3
Black - Preliminary Phase 3 Finalist
Red - Lost in Round 1 of Phase 3

Assume fairly large margins of error but I like to think these numbers aren't too far off reality in most cases.

Spoiler for Character Ranking after Preliminary 3-3:

Shana - 62.49
Aisaka Taiga - 60.75
Misaka Mikoto - 59.69
Nakano Azusa - 58.97
Akiyama Mio - 56.67
Nagato Yuki - 55.43
Saber - 53.85
Katsura Hinagiku - 53.62
Suzumiya Haruhi - 53.08
Senjōgahara Hitagi - 52.71
Sengoku Nadeko - 51.12
Oshino Shinobu - 46.78
----------
Illyasviel von Einzbern - 45.78
Sakagami Tomoyo - 45.03
Hirasawa Yui - 44.49
Tōsaka Rin - 44.28
Louise Vallière - 42.48
Ikaros - 42.44
Last Order - 41.52
Holo - 40.43
----------
Asahina Mikuru - 40.34
Fujibayashi Kyō - 40.23
C.C. - 39.72
Furukawa Nagisa - 39.57
Hirasawa Ui - 39.39
Sanzen'in Nagi - 39.22
Hiiragi Kagami - 39.05
Konjiki no Yami - 39.02
Ichinose Kotomi - 38.64
Izumi Konata - 38.63
Kotobuki Tsumugi - 38.42
Nymph - 38.4
Index L. Prohibitorum - 37.22
Hecate - 36.1
Shiina Mafuyu - 35.89
Ibuki Fūko - 35.39
----------
Shirai Kuroko - 34.79
Fate Testarossa - 34.37
Saten Ruiko - 34.29
Kushieda Minori - 34.23
Tainaka Ritsu - 34.18
Okazaki Ushio - 33.88
Kawashima Ami - 33.56
Sakurano Kurimu - 33.54
Takamachi Nanoha - 33.15
Hiiragi Tsukasa - 33.1
Lala Satalin Deviluke - 32.46
Yūki Mikan - 32.37
Kotegawa Yui - 32.11
Maria - 31.6
Hanekawa Tsubasa - 31.09
Furude Rika - 30.99
----------
Kinomoto Sakura - 30.93
Saginomiya Isumi - 30.79
Kanzaki Kaori - 30.68
Kawasumi Mai - 30.18
Erza Scarlet - 29.36
Lucy Heartfilia - 27.5
Ryūgū Rena - 27.42
Chii - 27.38
Alice - 26.73
Tsukimiya Ayu - 26.18
Isayama Yomi - 25.9
Uiharu Kazari - 25.7
Hanato Kobato - 25.55
Ryōgi Shiki - 25.38
Sōryū Asuka Langley - 25.37
Suiseiseki - 25.32
Ayanami Rei - 25
Yin - 24.03
Evangeline A.K. McDowell - 23.18
Kōzuki Kallen - 23
Chrome Dokuro - 22.83
Enma Ai - 22.75
Hinamori Amu - 22.72
Kamio Misuzu - 22.54
Suigintō - 20.57
Kuronuma Sawako - 20.27
Kagura - 20.06
Shinku - 20
Hoshina Utau - 19.38
Kuchiki Rukia - 18.38
Haibara Ai - 18.22
Hyūga Hinata - 18.18

Tachibana Kanade - 72.78
Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) - 58.22
Eucliwood Hellscythe - 51.09
Yui - 50.23
Nakamura Yuri - 48.82
Hasegawa Kobato - 48.35
Kashiwazaki Sena - 47.5
Kōsaka Kirino - 46.87
Charlotte Dunois - 45.26
Kuroi Mato - 45.26
Victorique de Blois - 43.54
Yuzuriha Inori - 42.5
----------
Makise Kurisu - 42
Akemi Homura - 41.5
Mikazuki Yozora - 40.26
Tōwa Erio - 40
Iwasawa Asami - 39.51
Kanzaki H. Aria - 39.48
Elucia de Lute Irma - 38.5
Haruna - 38.35
----------
Kirishima Shōko - 38
Irisviel von Einzbern - 37.99
Haqua du Lot Herminium - 36.79
Himeji Mizuki - 36.58
Shiomiya Shiori - 36.08
Nakagawa Kanon - 36.03
Aragaki Ayase - 35.84
Suzutsuki Kanade - 35.5
Konoe Subaru - 35
Mine Riko - 34.95
Hotogi Shirayuki - 34.6
Shimada Minami - 34.58
Fear Kubrick - 34.2
Kasugano Sora - 33.86
Honma Meiko - 33.47
Shinomiya Ayase - 32.5
----------
Matsumae Ohana - 31.88
Tomoe Mami - 31.48
Shionji Yūko (Alice) - 30.95
Sakura Kyōko - 30.65
Tsugumi - 30.5
Shinonono Hōki - 30.44
Ayuzawa Misaki - 30.38
Gasai Yuno - 30.33
Laura Bodewig - 29.77
Kaname Madoka - 29.49
Ika-Musume - 29.2
Reki - 28.8
Sena Airi - 28.51
Taneshima Poplar - 28.5
Takahara Ayumi - 27.8
Toshinō Kyōko - 27
----------
Ueno Kirika - 27
Minato Tomoka - 27
Tsurugi Minko - 27
Yarizui Sen - 26.92
Morishima Haruka - 26.75
Hakamada Hinata - 26.5
Dalian - 26.5
Amaha Miu - 26.1
Akaza Akari - 26
Shiina Mayuri - 26
Yamada Aoi - 26
Wendy Marvell - 25.9
Horizon Ariadust (P-01s) - 25.8
Nanasaki Ai - 25.6
Inui Sana - 24.75
Kaga Rin - 24
Oikawa Tsurara - 23.5
Miki Sayaka - 23.32
Anjō Naruko - 22.6
Kisaragi Chihaya - 21.5
Kunieda Aoi - 21.5
Oshimizu Nako - 21.5
Hoshii Miki - 21
Astarotte Ygvar - 20.45
Yune - 20
Uryū Minene - 19.7
Shinonome Hakase - 19
Inami Mahiru - 19
Shinonome Nano - 18
Ayase Chihaya - 17
Amami Haruka - 17
Takakura Himari - 15.33

Stella for the most part went as my stats expected things to go down. Fuuko vs Kuroko is well within the margin of error so it's possible the 36 absolutely strongest characters made it into the regular tournament. At least from a strength perspective, no one got snubbed like Ikaros was last year. Well, this is just covering characters that made it through nominations. I would have liked to have seen if the Fire Sisters were able to give the lower end of the top 36 a challenge.

In terms of Nova, Sakura Kyōko and Gasai Yuno are looking to retroactively justify they are strong enough to make the main tournament. Yuno looked borderline strong enough in Phase I but seems to have fallen since then. Sakura Kyouko was supposed to qualify easily before diving like crazy. I think the two of them got fairly lucky to advance so they should work hard to show that it wasn't a waste to give them a spot.

Hotogi Shirayuki gets to be Ikaros this year. Very unlucky to draw Nakagawa Kanon in Phase III since there were quite a few characters Shirayuki would have a good chance to beat that ended up advancing. Shinomiya Ayase was a bit unlucky Menma was a reasonable opponent to face and she wasn't quite able to pull it off and add another Hanazawa Kana character to the main tournament.

One character to put a bunch of question marks beside is Akemi Homura. Just how strong is she? She did beat Shouko and Irisviel von Einzbern which is pretty good. In the seeding match of questionable fairness, Homura beats Eucliwood Hellscythe and nearly matches Kuroneko. Neither of these performances is as good as the time she nearly beats Kuroneko 1 on 1 in another questionably relevant post season exhibition match. The results Homura has had aren't that consistent and her last match was before the other Madoka characters seemed to crash. I've got a stat down for Homura but it wouldn't be out of the question for Homura to be bumped up to Kuroneko's level or pushed down to Kasugano Sora's level. It's probably more likely that she crashed with the other Madoka characters so I think her rank is going to come down a lot in Aquamarine but we'll see.

According to those stats I'm surprised Kyoko is weaker than Menma while Iwasawa is expected

[RegalStar]

Mine has Kyouko being slightly stronger than Menma, but I wouldn't be surprised is she's actually weaker because madoka girls in general continuously underperform when I started keeping stats in phase III, and letting Tsugumi cutting that close would do really bad to her value in a model that values freshness of data much more than mine.

Maybe Homura getting 3rd seed will get more people to watch Madoka and thus be more aware of its characters, if that was the problem with them. The data seems to support this theory, although given how famous Madoka was last year it's still a bit suspect.

[ion475]

Maybe Homura getting 3rd seed will get more people to watch Madoka and thus be more aware of its characters, if that was the problem with them. The data seems to support this theory, although given how famous Madoka was last year it's still a bit suspect.

I'm thinking hate vote here. Either that or the fact that Madoka is a year old.

On the other hand, you have girls like Iwasawa actually doing better than the Madoka girls...(Yep, I'm still fuming...), so I don't know how "series being old" can explain the phenomenon.

But then, Kanade will go 35-0 and win Nova easily anyway. The only one that I see getting remotely close is Kuroneko, since she's getting Season 2 with a storyline that would push her over the top. I see Homuhomu as this year's Eu-kun, aka can beat most lower tier girls but keep losing to just about anyone remotely stronger.

[RegalStar]

Well, anyone who supports Kanade would basically automatically know Iwasawa, and many of them probably don't know many other animes, so Iwasawa would become a kind of default vote against those characters they don't know about.

Given the number of Kanade supporters out there, Iwasawa can enjoy the ride. I think that Shiina would actually have a good chance of getting in the regular season if she had managed to pass nominations.

[ion475]

Regal: Yeah, that's true...I mean, it's hard to be me who basically only vote for Kanade and no one else from AB (I do vote for Yui-nyan once in awhile, but that's about it...). But then, I do know about 80% of the girl in Nova...(100% if you only count those that make it to regular season...)