2014-09-14, 08:46 | Link #4507 |
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For a long time, I've wanted to take my all-time favorite anime characters, and put them into one of those D&D moral alignment blocks. My favorite anime characters have changed a bit over time, and now they fit all the D&D moral alignments pretty well, I think. Madoka Magica claims 3 of 9, so I felt this was the best place to share this image. Big thanks to Kogetsu Shirogane for his help in compiling this image.
Any feedback on this block is welcomed. I hope the images and quotes chosen fit nicely. Notes - Lawful Evil and True Neutral don't necessarily stay that way, but they are that way for a significant stretch. As PMMM fans know, Chaotic Evil didn't start that way, but I'd argue she ended up that way. Neutral Evil is a mid-90s anime character, and my favorite anime villain of all-time. No biggie if you don't recognize him though. The fact female characters claim 8 of 9 spots shows how much my taste in anime has changed over the years. It wasn't that long ago that male characters would have claimed 4 of 9.
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2014-09-14, 09:17 | Link #4508 | |
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2014-09-15, 12:06 | Link #4509 | |
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Madoka rewrote the laws of the universe.That not very lawful. Neutral good seems more appropriate. Kyubey makes more sense to me here. Lawful evil makes no sense to me,unless I missed a part where Homura murders and tortures people for fun. Her alignment is highly datable and depends on your interpretation. It could be anything from Neutral Evil (if you think she is just a selfish bitch) to Chaotic Good (If you think what she did was right and that the end justifies the means).
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2014-09-15, 18:07 | Link #4512 | ||
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Besides, that quote is very lawful, and is a key direct response to Homura - "It's kind of bad to break rules because you feel like it". That quote would condemn Robin Hood just as assuredly as it would a villainous law-breaker. So I think Lawful Neutral fits Madoka. Quote:
Now she might not stay in the Chaotic Evil alignment, but I think a strong case can be made that she's there at the end of the Rebellion movie.
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2014-09-16, 15:44 | Link #4514 |
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Madoka is definitely in the lawful camp; her method was change within the system, and it's clear she favors having a proper ruleset over anything else. Even her wish was within the system.
So yes, Madoka respects the law a lot; I wonder if she would have this conversation with Homura.
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Don't worry, I understand your choices; and I know just who Jinnai is. Spoiler for My take on these characters; Contains major spoilers!:
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2014-09-21, 15:05 | Link #4516 | |
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Choatic evil characters on the other hand,well... and homura is nothing like that at all.
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2014-09-22, 07:09 | Link #4518 | |
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Essentially, she goes full-on yandere for Madoka, but in the end, perhaps still more "Madoka neutral"- or to go with the original set, perhap chaotic neutral. She does not take pleasure in immoral actions, simply sees Spoiler for Rebellion:
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2014-09-22, 09:08 | Link #4519 | ||
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but anyways, yes she's still lawful good. she still follows the "laws" of how magical girls "should" be, based on her admiration for mami. while she may have had some selfish desire in wanting kyousuke's affection, ultimately she did make all the proper "good" and "lawful" choices available, which were refusing to sacrifice innocents just to get a grief seed on her own. actually, the fact that she refused the grief seeds, is quite a common thing regarding lawful good you know. lawful characters in general, are pretty stubborn in following a set of principles, in this case sayaka stuck to her principles in the end. and even before the whole magical girl thing, sayaka's always been defending and protecting madoka. while sayaka's a bit of a tomboy, which is looked a bit as rebellious, there wasnt really anything to show that she was someone who did things on her own. heck the very fact that she did those things despite how it went against what she really felt, goes to show how she fits the alignment. she could have been "selfish" as you imply, but she didnt in the end. and then there's also the whole last bit with her moment as goddess madoka gave her a choice. actions speak louder than words, which is why... Quote:
now the issue though is whether you'd view her as evil or not... and id like to just remind you, just cause you've got some "reason" to do so, doesnt really make you any less evil. are the antagonists. who would offer up the world just to revive their dead lover, considered to be not evil? ultimately, homura is evil by definition of her pretty much risking the lives and messing up the world, just for the sake of bringing back her loved one. id say that you consider a character to be aligned with good, if their interest stretches beyond a few selected individuals, while the ones who focus on solely single object while disregarding everything else, is pretty much evil. why do you think that most of the time, ultimate rage = ultimate evil, or the "super powered dark side" of a character, often occurs when a person they're close to gets hurt?
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