Lucky Star - Episode 05 Discussion / Poll

[lyric]

Originally Posted by Meophist

I don't know why, but I didn't really like this episode. It just seemed wierd. The jokes were still there but the execution…

I think most of lucky star's jokes are related to Japanese culture including "OTAKU" culture. Sometimes, we cannot make fun because we have no experience of their lives. In short, we dont have sympathetic response.
I also read the manga of lucky star before, each time when konata was talking baseball program with kagami, it's really boring for me. Anyway, as long as the characters are cute, it's enough.

[Meophist]

That's not it, I understood the jokes. I believe they were simply executed badly. I didn't like how the characters moved around so much. I didn't think the focus on Tsukasa during the little section worked too well. I didn't think the fish moving away from Kagami was done well.

There was just a bunch of little things that simply annoyed me in this episode. As I said, the jokes were there, but I really did not enjoy its execution.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by Meophist

That's not it, I understood the jokes. I believe they were simply executed badly. I didn't like how the characters moved around so much. I didn't think the focus on Tsukasa during the little section worked too well. I didn't think the fish moving away from Kagami was done well. There was just a bunch of little things that simply annoyed me in this episode. As I said, the jokes were there, but I really did not enjoy its execution.

Oh, well, we may agree a bit, but I thought the fish moving away was done particularly nicely. Did you think the comic execution was better in previous episodes? And which "little section" with Tsukasa wasn't good?

EDIT: Between midnight Sunday night, when the broadcast started, and 6 am Monday morning, there have been approximately 2000 posts in the main Lucky Star thread on 2channel. Phenomenal. The three most posted-about shows are Gurren-Laggen with 52 threads, Lucky Star with 62...and Nanoha Strikers with 92.

[Nemo_N]

There is something unsettling about a law enforcement agent with the Izumi genes . Yui's gun handling certainly got some Trigun vibes .

The DBZ theme brought back memories...

(I'm getting old.)

[Meophist]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Oh, well, we may agree a bit, but I thought the fish moving away was done particularly nicely.

Ok, I admit, I just didn't like that joke.

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Did you think the comic execution was better in previous episodes?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

And which "little section" with Tsukasa wasn't good?

Tsukasa's raburabu section with the phone + the little bit after.

[Konata-chan]

Spoiler for Konata and Nanako-sensei:

The chat between Konata and Nanako-sensei was pretty funny.

友人nanakonがログインしました。
Konata: 先生が入って来た。(opens up a new window)

konakona: こんにちわ
nanakon: よっ　（＾３＾）/
konakona: 休み中だからか（ご）接続率いいですね。
nanakon: まあな-w
konakona: 時間もあるし狩りしませんか？　
チョプロン村近くの洞窟にいるんですけど
nanakon: おっしゃ、行く行く！>w<b
wizの出番やな！
konakona: じゃあゲート近くでまってますから
nanakon: って、それもいいけど宿題はやったか？（－＿－）
konakona: は？
nanakon: 引きこもってないか？（－＿－）
konakona: ;;
nanakon: 登校日も忘れるなよ（－３－）ｙ－～～～
konakona: ;; ;; ;; ;;
nanakon: あとなー、休みだからって夜便かしと寝坊も大概にしとき

My attempt at translation:
Kona: Hello
Nanako: Yo
Kona: You're logging in more during summer vacation, huh?
Nanako: Yeah...
Kona: Do you want to go on a hunt with me? There's a cave near Chopuro Village.
Nanako: Sure, let's go! [It's the wizard's turn?]
Kona: Then I'll wait near the gate.
Nanako: Hey, you're all right with the homework?
Kona: Huh?
Nanako: You're playing, yet you haven't done it?
Kona: ;;
Nanako: When school starts you'll forget it
Kona: ;; ;; ;; ;;
Nanako: Since it's vacation, you're most likely gonna sleep in late [gaming and not do the homework]

Is this translation correct? I want to try my hands at becoming a Japanese-English translator, but I'm not sure how much skill I need since half of the words I had to resort to a kanji dictionary.

Spoiler for Episode 5 thoughts:

Another great episode, and much love towards the Kagami-Konata interaction. Along with Konata's otaku behavior totally makes the show my most favorite anime airing right now.

My LOL moments:

• Konata's dad's weird way of tying the obi. Poor Konata, her only feminine influence is her older cousin Yui, and even then, doesn't live with her.
• Yui claiming to shoot well, only to fail otherwise. Her co-worker had to drag her by the ears...
• Kagami: "Getto daze!" when trying to catch the fish.
• After Nanak0-sensei tells Kona that she doesn't have a boyfriend, I guess there's going to be no summer romance happening anytime soon.
• FMP Bonta-kun mask on Yui!
• The entire online conversation between Konata and Nanako was brilliant! I tried translating a bit of it, hopefully I'm accurate.

With the addition of Yui Narumi and Nanako-sensei talking more, I really hope to see the show improve a lot more with the interaction of the supporting cast. As much as I love the interaction between Konata and Kagami and the funny things that Konata says/does, I won't like the series much if the show only relies on these two things to deliver its humor.

Another thought regarding the ED karaokes. Why is it that Aya Hirano sang in her "natural" voice for "Sore ga Ai Deshou", yet sang "in character" for "Cha-La Head-Cha La"?

[QBnoYouko]

Nice episode. Was the scene with Kagami catching a fish supposed to be Pokémon?

Spoiler:

Anywho, nice to see the introduction of Yui. For a police lady she sure seems like a fun person. My favorite part is when Konata and Tsukasa are playing with the fan since I've always loved doing that myself. And of course, Aaya's hysterical singing to CHA-LA-HEAD-CHA-LA.

Hopefully Minami and the rest show up soon as well.

[krln99]

The best part for me was the "electric fan voice" gag. I always do that. I noticed in this ep and next one Konata isn't as un-stylish as I thought. She has a fairly cute blouse when she visits the Hiiragis' house in this one. And in the next ep, she wears something pretty cool-looking.

I was surprised we saw Yui in this one. I hope they show Yutaka (Yui's younger sister, the red haired small girl in the intro) soon.

Did anyone notice Kona humming "Bouken Deshou" when she was playing the net game in the last scene? More of KyoAni poking fun at itself.

As for the ED, Kona is simply imitating the original style of the songs. The first 2 songs and "HEAD CHA LA" are sung by men and meant to be loud. "Sore ga Ai Dehsou" isn't.

[dahl_moon]

Not as burstingly funny as episode 4 (SOS-dan and 2 Heart was over the roof LOL), it was still a good episode. Rather dialog heavy, so I'll need to wait for the subs to properly enjoy it.

@Konata-chan: Thanks for the translation! Have a cookie. Does anyone find it interesting that Konata speaks in regular Japanese, while Nanako-sensei goes full chat-mode? Not just with Nanako-sensei, but with other games as well.

@krln99: Yeah, the electric fan was really funny here. Kagami's dad saying "Kagami also did it this morning" was a LOL moment.

[WanderingKnight]

Gotta wait for translation for full thoughts on this one, but it had its funny moments nonetheless. One of the best parts were Kona-chan singing Bouken Desho!? Desho!? while playing and her meeting with Nanako on-line.

And I can finally identify an ending song! (I guess anyone over here can anyways...). What's best is that, just yesterday, I was at a friend's house and we were remembering old times by watching our childhood series' openings and endings, and of course, Chala-Head-Chala was in them.

Time to look for a youtube version of the ED to send it to my friends...

[Konata-chan]

Originally Posted by dahl_moon

@Konata-chan: Thanks for the translation! Have a cookie. Does anyone find it interesting that Konata speaks in regular Japanese, while Nanako-sensei goes full chat-mode? Not just with Nanako-sensei, but with other games as well.

No problem, I wish my Japanese was better. Since I'm no longer taking Japanese past the 2nd year, I want as much exposure to the language as possible. I guess it's good enough to understand like 10% of what's being said, but since much of the humor largely relies on the speaking bits... I'm fresh out of luck...

Even though Nanako is in the same party as Konata, Nanako is still Konata's teacher. When talking to her either offline or online, she uses the polite form (called desu/masu form, since the polite forms of verbs end in -masu and desu is the polite form of "to be"). Oddly enough, she doesn't use keigo (the form one is supposed to use when talking to someone socially superior to you), but Nanako is either a young enough person in that Konata doesn't necessarily need to use that form, or keigo is only used at business-like settings, and not at school. I guess Konata does type in regular Japanese in games, but when she isn't talking to her teacher she doesn't type in the polite form.

Looking back at some parts of the episode again, I forgot to mention more LOL moments.

Spoiler for More episode 5 thoughts:

I forgot to mention how Konata, Tsukasa and earlier that morning Kagami were playing with the fan, and Tsukasa repeating the words "balsamic vinegar". Such nuances made me realize that not all the humor has to come from Konata or Konata and Kagami messing with each other.

Another translation:

Nanako: So you also live alone?
Yui: Yeah, I do.
Nanako: Ah, I see. (Kanji: 独身、unmarried)
Yui: Ah? (Kanji:だんな単身赴任、husband away from home, so technically, she lives alone.)
Gotta love more word play!

To WanderingKnight: Cha-La Head-Cha-La Konata ED karaoke. I'm surprised that they uploaded the karaoke that fast.

[The Sphinx]

Originally Posted by QBnoYouko

Nice episode. Was the scene with Kagami catching a fish supposed to be Pokémon?

Spoiler:

Anywho, nice to see the introduction of Yui. For a police lady she sure seems like a fun person. My favorite part is when Konata and Tsukasa are playing with the fan since I've always loved doing that myself. And of course, Aaya's hysterical singing to CHA-LA-HEAD-CHA-LA.

Hopefully Minami and the rest show up soon as well.

Nope, that's kingyo-sukui, the goldfish catching game. Basically try to catch a goldfish with a thin paper net. It's common at summer festivals.

[kron]

o god. hirano aya singing dbz, totally unexpected.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by kron

o god. hirano aya singing dbz, totally unexpected.

Not really if you see my explanation. She's a fan of his music.

[kron]

Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama

Not really if you see my explanation. She's a fan of his music.

well i wouldn't of thought that the ed choice to be up to her to start with but yea. i think he sang along side with hirano aya some time ago. think it was bouken desho desho and it's somewhere on youtube.

[Mirrinus]

Originally Posted by The Sphinx

Nope, that's kingyo-sukui, the goldfish catching game. Basically try to catch a goldfish with a thin paper net. It's common at summer festivals.

I think QBnoYouko was referring to what Konata was saying. I think it was something along the lines of "Getto daze!", which is the Japanese equivalent of "Gotta catch 'em all!"

[whitepearl]

Originally Posted by WanderingKnight

Gotta wait for translation for full thoughts on this one, but it had its funny moments nonetheless. One of the best parts were Kona-chan singing Bouken Desho!? Desho!? while playing and her meeting with Nanako on-line.

And I can finally identify an ending song! (I guess anyone over here can anyways...). What's best is that, just yesterday, I was at a friend's house and we were remembering old times by watching our childhood series' openings and endings, and of course, Chala-Head-Chala was in them.

Time to look for a youtube version of the ED to send it to my friends...

The ED for Episode 5 is on Stage6

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by kron

well i wouldn't of thought that the ed choice to be up to her to start with but yea. i think he sang along side with hirano aya some time ago. think it was bouken desho desho and it's somewhere on youtube.

Sometimes stuff seems to just fall into place. Maybe it was a coincidence that the episode Konata seems to end back in the Karaoke seat happens to be Chala-Head-Chala. Then again it might also be a vanity thing. It's possibly that the Seiyuu get to choose some of their own songs as well.

What just occured to me and is kind of interesting to ponder is if Konata being back as the singer is some sort of internal veto of the studios. Maybe they figure that since Aya Hirano is the bee's knees it would be best to get her in as many Karaoke roles as possible. When you think about it, and I know I should probably be mentioning this is the merchandise topic, but this is pure speculation and not confirmed merchandise anyway, what's going to sell more, Aya Hirano ED Singles or the Seiyuu who did Kagami? (Who's name I honestly can't even remember and that might be proof enough of her lack of name recognition). I also know there are a lot of Kagami fan's so I wonder how the sudden "YOU'RE TOO SLOW!" Bright Noah quote thing that Konata seems to have pulled on Kagami will play out across the net? So two things I'm interested to see in the next episode. I also wonder if they deliberately leave us with things to ponder for next time that are unrelated to the episodes content as a way of stirring up interest. We've had "Will the next episode be different" for 1-2, the shift from Konata to Kagami singing from 3-4 the Director Shift from 4-5 and now a sudden shift back to Konata singing for 5-6. The only time there hasn't been a huge bit of speculation after an episode has aired is in the 2-3 transition. Three things to think about now.

[Aaluaine]

ok ok ok ..... just one straight foward questions



-> did they officially change the director or not ?

[krln99]

Originally Posted by Aaluaine

ok ok ok ..... just one straight foward questions



-> did they officially change the director or not ?

Yes, it's in the OP scene. After the cheerleader dance, and the pom-poms fall, you get to the falling stars at 1:16-1:19, in big bold kanji it now says:

Director - Takemoto Yasuhiro