2013-06-18, 09:10 | Link #3821 |
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Yeah, I definitely don't think that's a facade. Everybody wears a slightly different face in different situations. Kirino does work hard, but she also has an inordinate amount of luck and things generally go her way. When they don't she tends to either flip out and hit people or become completely withdrawn and depressed. That doesn't make her a bad person, just a spoiled brat. She'll grow out of it.
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2013-06-18, 09:40 | Link #3822 | |
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As for your claim that she says things like Kuroneko and Saori should be lucky to be in her company, I did not find anything aside the time with the anime. In contrast she considers her very lucky to be in their group (conversation with Kyousuke after their father caught her with the DVD box, when she was angry that he called their meetup worthless; then also the maid event). And that surprise visit at Saori's was apparently also her idea.
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2013-06-18, 10:00 | Link #3823 | |
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2013-06-18, 10:08 | Link #3824 |
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I think its really difficult to react against the person you love and hate(when she used to) at the same time. If you want to see some of her behavior at school and Ayase's description of her as ''kind'' and ''goddess'' S1 Ep 12 or 12.5 whichever you prefer.
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2013-06-18, 10:40 | Link #3827 | |
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It is also this behavior (of kirino) that made me like this novel from the start and knew that there is some hidden message in the story. EDIT: (this message is in general wilshere, it is not directed to you alone) I don't see her behavior as a facade at all. I think the things that happened in the past and the situation at the cold war etc. Made Kirino in such a character. But to conclude from this that it was all a childish act and she was guilty about it so she gave the ring back. Is practically saying that Kirino is the bad person here and that kyousuke is used by her. ahahahahaha, knowing that the title is ''my younger sister can't be this cute'. Means to me that he Kyousuke came to know slowly about the nature of kirino and so he fell in love with her. And knowing that they are young and can't do things like full incest route etc. They decided to revert back to being siblings but not normal siblings but something more (hidden). What this hidden thing means we don't know. That is were the story ends. Like i read somewere in the novel. Her actions are all part of her (tsundere towards her brother (with a meaning behind it), hard working towards others etc). Last edited by Sakuratsuki; 2013-06-18 at 11:42. |
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2013-06-18, 10:50 | Link #3828 | |
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Edit: I also wonder what wouldve been Kyousuke's reaction had he heard her recordings of her when she was at 3rd grade especially the part '' The matter of the onii-chan I love most''.
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2013-06-18, 11:56 | Link #3829 | |
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some cats are black things, some black things are televisions, some cats are televisions ... nope. The author tried to "keep it a race" for as long as he could ... in doing so, he had to provide enough hints that any solution was possible for a large part of the tale. Try this exercise - pretend Kuroneko (or Ayase) was the choice at the end and go through the series up to the point where Kyou suddenly makes his views clear and look for validation of why she was the obvious choice.
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2013-06-18, 12:28 | Link #3833 |
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Saw a few mentions of the Meruru ring at the ending, so I'm gonna stick my head in those conversations with my POV: this request from her was a reconfirmation of the marriage they have, one that she can finally show in public, since it's related to her hobby and noone can suspect it is something more than that.
Imagine this, a otaku style ring on someones finger, or a ring that shines bright, with real stones? Which one would you link to a marriage and which one would you leave it aside as a friendly gift?
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2013-06-18, 12:34 | Link #3834 | |
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And yeah, the main girl winning might be a cliche and generally those are frowned upon, but cliches exist for a reason. Last edited by Ricadan; 2013-06-18 at 12:52. Reason: spelling... goddamn i'm tired today |
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2013-06-18, 13:00 | Link #3835 |
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Actually, you seem to be having a fit at anyone who isn't in lockstep with you - which is a large reason I was hesitant to even bother to post. I'm asking you to analyze the story framework and trying to show you why it might not have been adequately constructed to avoid the appearance of being jerked to a solution.
If you don't know how to do that, then we're done. Especially because even the simplest piece, like a book title, you're using as leading evidence that we should have expected the ending when it in no way does that. Am I going to have to write a short story that shows a protagonist that is trying to repair his relationship with his sister while romancing her friends using the same title and the same characters to demonstrate?
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2013-06-18, 13:03 | Link #3836 | |
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EDIT: This is the first time I mentioned the title of the book in connection with the story. Look at my posts so far. There is only one post that is talking about the title in connection with the story. My other post don't mention nothing about the title. So this is the first time I said this. My other opinions were based on other things. That came straight from the story. The only connection I made with the story and title is: how the feelings of kyousuke changed through the whole story towards kirino (life counseling). Why did I think this: Starting from the first novel (anime): How was the situation at the beginning between the siblings: He thought she hated him because of how she treated him. Spoiler for Thoughts of kyousuke volume 1:
Later in the story his feelings towards kirino changed. Do you recall the episode in the first season. When the father found out about that DVD. And when kirino thanked kyousuke for solving that. 'my sister can't be this cute' was his reaction. I think this is a reaction of ' huh, didn't know she was like this at all'. This lead me to think about that the title has a connection (but i would have never said it if we were still at volume 6 or 7. I am saying it only now after reading the end). With how Kyouske felt about his sister at first and how this changed later on. But if we have to think if this also explains the romantic part? No it doesn't. But for this we have to dig the hints that are given in the story like: life counseling etc. I am not trying to convince anyone with my post. My apologies if you took it that why. But that was not my intention. Last edited by Sakuratsuki; 2013-06-18 at 15:18. |
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2013-06-18, 13:08 | Link #3837 |
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It has a connection with the title ... but so do other possibilities, like the non-romantic one I just described. Someone picking up the book would not automatically assume it's about a romance with the protagonist's sister - only that he thinks she's cute. My cat is cute but it doesn't mean I want to marry him.
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2013-06-18, 13:14 | Link #3838 | |
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2013-06-18, 13:22 | Link #3839 |
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You probably haven't spent any time thinking about how great your cat's ass is, either.
As others have said, I don't think the ending would ever have been in doubt if they hadn't been siblings. I know I was convinced that Fushimi would back down and try to play it off in the end. That sure didn't happen. |
2013-06-18, 13:31 | Link #3840 | |
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If the plot focuses on repairing and developing the relationship with the sister, then switching/adding focus to the romance aspects would be unnecessary unless it was actually headed in the direction of the sister. |
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