(L) Date A Live [Light Novel]

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by LoveYouSaber

I don't find Miku endearing either, but I am a fan of Kurumi. I think it kind of boils down to Kurumi never made the impression that she is a bitxh. She's generally nice and playful - except that small flaw of killing people.

Miku on the other hand, behaved badly to, if not outright manipulating, almost everyone. Plus the anime hasn't shown much of how she is post-capture, so when compared to Kurumi, who had numerous cute or sexy moments shown, it's easy for me to be a fan of Kurumi while still feeling unsure about Miku, even when both have flaws in personality.

I guess this is really a reflection of what happens when certain aspects are emphasised in the story/anime - we were shown that Kurumi's victims were in general a$$holes while Miku was being a bitxh to Shidou and manipulating his classmates. Consider what people would feel if the targets were reversed in the case of Kurumi and Miku: Kurumi killing some of his classmates while Miku being a bitxh to the a$$holes Kurumi killed. That would significantly change people's feelings to both.

Plus, although I haven't read the novels, the anime has sort of reveal that Kurumi kills people to harvest time and use that special bullet? I am hoping that Kurumi actually has a justifiable goal and is just sacrificing people to help the bigger majority, kind of like Kiritsugu from Fate/Zero. Even without this however, it's still easier to like Kurumi compared to Miku at this stage in the anime for the reasons stated above.

Having read the novels that's basically the point kurumi wants to use the special bullet to go back and time and kill the first spirit so she's kinda like lelouch in the fact she does evil for the greater good.

[AP24]

Originally Posted by SolBlade

I thought someone was gonna do that instead of you? nonetheless thx for the hard work riki! and hopefully people will stop asking about vol 7 from you

Riki said he would do vol 7 if no else is doing it by the time vol 10 is done.

So, looks like all the main volumes will be completed by the time vol 11 is released.

[Death Usagi]

Riki is god of Date A Live

[Rogue66]

Originally Posted by Riki

Okay Volume 10 done! Now for Volume 7 Gaaaaahhhh!

Thank you Riki for the translation.

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by Riki

Okay Volume 10 done! Now for Volume 7 Gaaaaahhhh!

Looks like I caught up with this LN just in time for volume 10 to be done. Thanks Riki.

[farios]

Originally Posted by Miraluka

Here is your mission guys:

*Find a better scan ASAP.

Go!

The best i could find

[Superbia]

Originally Posted by Seeker213

Also Kotori Mystery and Mana Mission are out as well.

Aren't they both the summaries that were put on pastebin a while ago?

[AP24]

In chapter 5: “Okay then-----Let’s begin our war?”

Shouldn't it be "date" instead of "war", or "date" in smaller size on top of "war"?

[Xero8420]

Originally Posted by LoveYouSaber

I don't find Miku endearing either, but I am a fan of Kurumi. I think it kind of boils down to Kurumi never made the impression that she is a bitxh. She's generally nice and playful - except that small flaw of killing people.

Miku on the other hand, behaved badly to, if not outright manipulating, almost everyone. Plus the anime hasn't shown much of how she is post-capture, so when compared to Kurumi, who had numerous cute or sexy moments shown, it's easy for me to be a fan of Kurumi while still feeling unsure about Miku, even when both have flaws in personality.

I guess this is really a reflection of what happens when certain aspects are emphasised in the story/anime - we were shown that Kurumi's victims were in general a$$holes while Miku was being a bitxh to Shidou and manipulating his classmates. Consider what people would feel if the targets were reversed in the case of Kurumi and Miku: Kurumi killing some of his classmates while Miku being a bitxh to the a$$holes Kurumi killed. That would significantly change people's feelings to both.

Plus, although I haven't read the novels, the anime has sort of reveal that Kurumi kills people to harvest time and use that special bullet? I am hoping that Kurumi actually has a justifiable goal and is just sacrificing people to help the bigger majority, kind of like Kiritsugu from Fate/Zero. Even without this however, it's still easier to like Kurumi compared to Miku at this stage in the anime for the reasons stated above.

I find the lack of forgiveness disturbing... Still using Miku's past actions as an excuse, eh? Her 180 degree change was considered better than expected as she's no longer being a jerk as she used to be, let along her somewhat "childish" (yet lovey-dovey) behavior to love.

Old habits die hard... (but not always)

[tuckersister]

If it's true that Origami obtains another form at the climax of Vol 11, I would say "told you so". Again, I and other users talked about this subject more than a year ago and it is still curious. I would use the term for the other form "the light of hope that emerges from the ashes of desipair". I believe if one can overcome their despair, some miracle will happen.

[Miraluka]

^
You mean her obvious Inverse Form?

[wm4]

Originally Posted by Miraluka

^
You mean her obvious Inverse Form?

The third form I'm sure, because I had asked him a while ago.

It seems like that it's a very popular theory at the moment.

EDIT: found the FAQ.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...72#post5123972

[whitecloud]

yeaah....thanks to shidou saving her she will become "enlightened" and proceed to her true form metatron, which i guess is what isaac is aiming for..thus why they try to plunge all the spirit into inverse, in hoping the spirit obtain great power afterwards. and explain the reason why he doesnt just take the sephira crystal from spirit if he need it so much. because it considered "sealed" havent awakened yet to its true strength, and useless to his plan.

P.S : if this is the story that means every single spirit must be inversed and then they must be able to overcome inverse form to recover their true strength and the inverse form is basically a peek of what the spirit true strength + personality dark side, (which have to be defeated)

[wm4]

Originally Posted by whitecloud

P.S : if this is the story that means every single spirit must be inversed
and then they must be able to overcome inverse form to recover their
true strength ....

Perhaps this is probably not what Rataskr wants at the first place,
they want peace, so the spirits should be neutralized (through sealing),
at some degree both DEM and Rataskr are the same.

If the spirits got ever more power in opposite (and thus became unsealable)
then it's a breach of the organization's codes, making their stances
much different.

[Riki]

Originally Posted by whitecloud

yeaah....thanks to shidou saving her she will become "enlightened" and proceed to her true form metatron, which i guess is what isaac is aiming for..thus why they try to plunge all the spirit into inverse, in hoping the spirit obtain great power afterwards. and explain the reason why he doesnt just take the sephira crystal from spirit if he need it so much. because it considered "sealed" havent awakened yet to its true strength, and useless to his plan.

P.S : if this is the story that means every single spirit must be inversed and then they must be able to overcome inverse form to recover their true strength and the inverse form is basically a peek of what the spirit true strength + personality dark side, (which have to be defeated)

...Did Tohka become Super Tohka after she turned back normal from her Inverse form? Where the heck did you get this idea.

[Seeker213]

Originally Posted by Riki

...Did Tohka become Super Tohka after she turned back normal from her Inverse form? Where the heck did you get this idea.

He got the idea from tuckersister, who speculates heavily that there's a third form to the Spirits, which would be the opposite of Inverse

[tuckersister]

Yeah, it's an idea I thought of ever since "inverse" was introduce in Vol 7. I was just speculating at the time. I never knew it ended becoming a much popular topic (I was actually surprised it lasted very long). Inverse is formed from a spirit's despair, what is formed from a spirit's hope or when a spirit overcomes despair. I think Origami will be the first one to overcome her despair with Shidou's help and others.

I still think Origami will meet another entity connected to spirits other than Phantom and will be of help to her of some sort. I also wonder what her AST friends will think now that she is a spirit.

Looking forward to how Vol 11 turns out.

[Riki]

Originally Posted by tuckersister

Yeah, it's an idea I thought of ever since "inverse" was introduce in Vol 7. I was just speculating at the time. I never knew it ended becoming a much popular topic (I was actually surprised it lasted very long). Inverse is formed from a spirit's despair, what is formed from a spirit's hope or when a spirit overcomes despair. I think Origami will be the first one to overcome her despair with Shidou's help and others.

I still think Origami will meet another entity connected to spirits other than Phantom and will be of help to her of some sort. I also wonder what her AST friends will think now that she is a spirit.

Looking forward to how Vol 11 turns out.

Do you know how stupid that sounds?

[wm4]

Originally Posted by Riki

Do you know how stupid that sounds?

Elaborate.

[Riki]

A.Let's start with adding an extra "God" into the story without any warning at all. (Origami meeting another Entity)
Let's move to the basics of DAL. Shidou meets spirits, make them go kyuun kyuun, kiss them, Seal, villain talking in the shadows, the end. Basically, Shidou has to the the saving, not some random entity.
If this theory was speculated from the tree then who knows, it might really happen but adding it abruptly into the story without any warning will make it sound like the author ran out of ideas and put "God" in to fix the problem he can't solve. AKA, bad story telling.

B. Super Origami in Vol 11.
I don't know what shonen manga you read to get the idea of "I just conquered despair, i am going to powerful now!" In fact, Tohka did the same thing in Vol 7 and i don't see her shooting laser out of her eyeballs. Fun fact; The term Inverse we use in translation is　反転, basically flipping the coin to the other side. So spirits have two forms, normal and inversed.
The only person i could see going "Super" is Shidou and that's in the 1% probability rate.

C. Isaac waiting to get the "true sephira crystal or whatever"
In the story it seems Isaac might have some sephira crystals in his pocket already(Not confirmed). He has the knowledge that sephira crystals can be taken back out from the Spirits, and how he came to this point is unknown. All we know about this troll is that he loves to play with Ellen, wants the Spirit to inverse, Welcomes the [Devil King](Fetish?), wants sephira crystals(Why? Dunno), and want to achieve his wish. Why he want's to let the Spirit roam around? It's because he wants to use Shidou and inverse them all in one go using him(It's in the novel twice).

Conclusion: Shidou does something in the past, Spirits fighting origami and Ellen, AST most probably will join in the fight, Shidou comes back and fix the problem, Kiss,small plot advancement with Isaac and Ellen, the end. Meaning, MC does it all!!!