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Sinaura · 2007-02-27, 20:43

It's possible that Kabuto's final and only role with Oro was to be his container in the end, which would be sad but not unbelievable.

majin_vegeta · 2007-02-27, 21:03

Well, it would make since for Kabuto to be his container, but the reason he wants Sauske to be his container is because of the Sharingan. That technique would allow him to easily amass thousands of Jutsu's. Orochimaru's goal is to master as many Jutsu's as possible. He may want the Sharingan, but he know's that their bodies wouldn't be able to hold him. He'll probably end up with Kabuto because of his unique ability to heal himself.

xPresagio · 2007-02-28, 01:26

Quite interesting script, although it still feels rushed and with too much overhype for Kishi's favorite character (for my taste).

Spoiler:

Indeed, the scene seems like the prelude of Oro's demise, but it might not be the case yet:

*Quite frankly, Oro dying here is a bit difficult.
First, he's the epitome of the whole "quest for immortality", so dying here at hands of his target vessel, while might sound ironic in a good sense, it would pretty much destroy any reason for his existence (beside being a bad guy) in the series. What would be the point of seeing another semi-immortal enemy from Akatsuki, if the only one that truly feared dead is already.. dead?

Not to mention that being killed while being in his worst possible condition, would diminish Sasuke's victory. And that can't happen: Sasuke sort of has to "earn the right" to fight his brother, in a convincing way.

*Also, we can all agree that with this level, Sasuke has no chance to defeat Itachi yet. He -needs- a MS counter.
*Plus, when Oro dies, Jiraya has to be around, since their story is a mirror of Naruto-Sasuke's one, except that the main character will succeed in saving his friend.

*The only way I can see it happening, is if Kishi is in a rush to present a "truer" villain, which ought to have a relation with Naruto (Can't be Itachi or Madara, they are more on Sasuke's realms), so at this point, it could only be Kabuto or AL (but then, it would have to be Yondaime or a close relative).

*Oddly, the flashback felt as if we are about to witness a "sad" story from Oro's past. If that's correct, we might get nearer to understand why Sandaime cared for him so much. Same could be said for Jiraya.

*Oro as child: wonder if he already had "snake-like" features. The whole thing about the skin and his parents.. that's just the tip of the iceberg. So, I'm not buying the idea that his appearance being just the result of experimentation. More like a relation with 8-tails.

*Of course, we must not forget the very last scene. Oro is smiling, which can only mean that the next chapter is full of memories/flashbacks, or someone is about to get spanked for good measure. Probably both.

I assume we won't see Kabuto in the next 1-2 chapters.

Will be a long week.

Zu Ra · 2007-02-28, 02:35

If Oro gets slain in th next chapter it will most likely be with Kusanagi . Kusanagi is always hidden in his belly have you wondered why . Kishi is indeed inpsired by Yamata no Orochi tale so if Oro has to die it will be with Kusanagi keeping true to tradition

Jndmr2 · 2007-02-28, 02:58

to be honest if oro die here then he have realy out live his usefullness. I wounldnt be surprise if the next to die is the other two sennin. Oro is a char made to make sasu stronger and so is jira to naru. And in my opion oro is a lame ass char that live off of other ppl body like a parasite. I bet he never even got laid in all of his life time.

tatami · 2007-02-28, 09:11

hmm if oro dies the real deal bad guy will be al n_n

Kage_Spyke · 2007-02-28, 09:31

Really? or would the new big baddy be Sasuke?

Sasuke_Bateman · 2007-02-28, 10:03

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Originally Posted by Jndmr2

to be honest if oro die here then he have realy out live his usefullness. I wounldnt be surprise if the next to die is the other two sennin. Oro is a char made to make sasu stronger and so is jira to naru. And in my opion oro is a lame ass char that live off of other ppl body like a parasite. I bet he never even got laid in all of his life time.

I am 100% sure Oro slept with Anko

And i don't agree with you on that subject about Oro being lame...he's one of the most interesting character in the whole series....whatever you might think of the guy

he's one bad motherfucker, he's pretty strong too

rman0099 · 2007-02-28, 10:07

Technically Oro has already outlived his usefulness. The reason for the introduction of the Sanin was to train the next generation of Sanin. As Kishi just put in the last chapter "The new generation shall surpass the previous." Oro has trained his next gen character just like Tsunade and Jiraya.

Regardless, the chapter pacing agian feels too rushed. The previous spoiler seemed more like the Naruto we knew and loved. I think the first spoiler was much truer to the first 2 arcs of the post time skip (and all of pre-time skip for that matter) in spirit. Its getting bad when fanfic writers can make up chapters that seem to fit the characters/storyline better than the mangaka.

tatami · 2007-02-28, 10:08

sasuke is not a main bad character..only the things e do to reach his goals are debateable... on the other hand oro and al are true evilish chars...

Sasuke_Bateman · 2007-02-28, 10:10

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Originally Posted by tatami

sasuke is not a main bad character..only the things e do to reach his goals are debateable... on the other hand oro and al are true evilish chars...

Oh come on!! Sasuke is getting there

Mr. Johnny 5 · 2007-02-28, 10:14

If Sasuke starts to slay innocent children like...Konohamaru squad + Ebisu...that he'll get BAD ASS Points...but with defeating ninja's and allowing them to live...or kill a bad guy (Orochimaru) wont give him any bad guy points at all

...

And like Itachi he needs to show a more....angry face...not a stone unimpressed face...

Sasuke_Bateman · 2007-02-28, 10:39

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Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

And like Itachi he needs to show a more....angry face...not a stone unimpressed face...

Dude no one is has bad ass as Itachi

Sasuke is cool and all but his brother is freezing

...Sasuke needs to smile more, like a evil grin of some sort Lol.

Mr. Johnny 5 · 2007-02-28, 10:53

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Originally Posted by Sasuke_Bateman

Dude no one is has bad ass as Itachi

Sasuke is cool and all but his brother is freezing

...Sasuke needs to smile more, like a evil grin of some sort Lol.

You mean....like this?

Spoiler:

Sasuke_Bateman · 2007-02-28, 10:59

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Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

You mean....like this?

Spoiler:

Yes!! just like that...you gotta love the old Gaara

astayanax · 2007-02-28, 11:41

I believe Orochimaru shall be defeated; but I don't think he will be killed. He had escaped from worse things before; even a god.

The reason why I believe this is because plot wise, there really isn't much from a final Orochimaru confrontation dealing with Sasuke. It is very anti-climax, and further more doesn't really make Sasuke look any better since Orochimaru is currently in a weak stage. A Jiraiya Vs Orochimaru for the final battle is much more fitting; and fits plot wise perfectly. Orochimaru dying to Sasuke is like Sasuke dying to the AL. Point less.

I am almost positive Kabuto will be playing some role; and maybe revealling his true intentions after all of this time.

Hunter · 2007-02-28, 14:20

I'm actually not so sure about the whole weakened Oro thing. Oro's host was weakened and dying because it couldn't handle Oro anymore but Oro's true form doesn't have this problem.
He can't keep living with it but for all we know he may be stronger, faster, thougher, have a better regeneration, able to attack from everywhere on his body since he's made of snakes, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geta Boshi

If Oro gets slain in th next chapter it will most likely be with Kusanagi . Kusanagi is always hidden in his belly have you wondered why . Kishi is indeed inpsired by Yamata no Orochi tale so if Oro has to die it will be with Kusanagi keeping true to tradition

Why?
Yamata no Orochi wasn't killed with Kusanagi, it possesses the sword hidden inside his body.

LittleLaptopChan · 2007-02-28, 14:38

fuhuhu...i like how there are 5 pages on an as-of-yet publicly unreleased naruto chap. Kishi must be doing something right.

Yamata no Orochi was slain, and only afterwards was the Kusanagi sword discovered, inside of him.

Sasuke trying to kill Orochimaru now means that he'll go after Itachi next, since who else would be willing to teach him high-end techniques? either that, or he's a pansy and will run back to Konoha, in hopes of joining forces with his old teammates and attack itachi. but since he's so determined to fight on his own, where else can he go to progress?

-->Akatsuki. Possibly, Sasuke kills an Akatsuki member, then takes his spot. Not only will he be closer to Itachi, but obviously, everyone in Akatsuki needs mad skills, and may become even stronger the longer they stay there. That'd be a nice plot twist.

But still, as of now, I don't believe Oro'll just turn over and die.

shaselai · 2007-02-28, 15:04

Oro doesnt really have any use left for the series. He had his moment of attacking the village and failing and that was pretty much the best part of his char. But dying in sickbed is kinda anticlimatic but it seems to me he really isnt much of a threat anymore on a grand scheme of things. Sasuke joining the Akatsuki *might* be possible and he might as well kill off Deidara since we've seen what he can do so any fighting scene with Deidara is kinda waste.

kheldorin · 2007-02-28, 15:23

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Originally Posted by LittleLaptopChan

fuhuhu...i like how there are 5 pages on an as-of-yet publicly unreleased naruto chap. Kishi must be doing something right.

Kind of funny that even though the manga is titled Naruto, this chapter that generates so much more interest would probably not have naruto in it.

2007-02-28, 01:26	Link #83
xPresagio Member Join Date: Mar 2004	Quite interesting script, although it still feels rushed and with too much overhype for Kishi's favorite character (for my taste). Spoiler: Indeed, the scene seems like the prelude of Oro's demise, but it might not be the case yet: Quite frankly, Oro dying here is a bit difficult. First, he's the epitome of the whole "quest for immortality", so dying here at hands of his target vessel, while might sound ironic in a good sense, it would pretty much destroy any reason for his existence (beside being a bad guy) in the series. What would be the point of seeing another semi-immortal enemy from Akatsuki, if the only one that truly feared dead is already.. dead? Not to mention that being killed while being in his worst possible condition, would diminish Sasuke's victory. And that can't happen: Sasuke sort of has to "earn the right" to fight his brother, in a convincing way. Also, we can all agree that with this level, Sasuke has no chance to defeat Itachi yet. He -needs- a MS counter. Plus, when Oro dies, Jiraya has* to be around, since their story is a mirror of Naruto-Sasuke's one, except that the main character will succeed in saving his friend. The only way I can see it happening, is if Kishi is in a rush to present a "truer" villain, which ought to have a relation with Naruto (Can't be Itachi or Madara, they are more on Sasuke's realms), so at this point, it could only be Kabuto or AL (but then, it would have to be Yondaime or a close relative). Oddly, the flashback felt as if we are about to witness a "sad" story from Oro's past. If that's correct, we might get nearer to understand why Sandaime cared for him so much. Same could be said for Jiraya. *Oro as child: wonder if he already had "snake-like" features. The whole thing about the skin and his parents.. that's just the tip of the iceberg. So, I'm not buying the idea that his appearance being just the result of experimentation. More like a relation with 8-tails. Of course, we must not forget the very last scene. Oro is smiling, which can only mean that the next chapter is full of memories/flashbacks, or someone is about to get spanked for good measure. Probably both. I assume we won't see Kabuto in the next 1-2 chapters. Will be a long week. Last edited by xPresagio; 2007-02-28 at 01:44.*

2007-02-28, 02:35	Link #84
Zu Ra ✖ ǝʇ ɯıqnɾl ☆ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mortuary : D	If Oro gets slain in th next chapter it will most likely be with Kusanagi . Kusanagi is always hidden in his belly have you wondered why . Kishi is indeed inpsired by Yamata no Orochi tale so if Oro has to die it will be with Kusanagi keeping true to tradition __________________

2007-02-28, 02:58	Link #85
Jndmr2 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	to be honest if oro die here then he have realy out live his usefullness. I wounldnt be surprise if the next to die is the other two sennin. Oro is a char made to make sasu stronger and so is jira to naru. And in my opion oro is a lame ass char that live off of other ppl body like a parasite. I bet he never even got laid in all of his life time. Last edited by Jndmr2; 2007-02-28 at 03:29.

2007-02-28, 10:14	Link #92
Mr. Johnny 5 Konoha's ANBU Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 38	If Sasuke starts to slay innocent children like...Konohamaru squad + Ebisu...that he'll get BAD ASS Points...but with defeating ninja's and allowing them to live...or kill a bad guy (Orochimaru) wont give him any bad guy points at all ... And like Itachi he needs to show a more....angry face...not a stone unimpressed face... __________________

2007-02-28, 11:41	Link #96
astayanax Conspiracy Theorist Join Date: Dec 2005	I believe Orochimaru shall be defeated; but I don't think he will be killed. He had escaped from worse things before; even a god. The reason why I believe this is because plot wise, there really isn't much from a final Orochimaru confrontation dealing with Sasuke. It is very anti-climax, and further more doesn't really make Sasuke look any better since Orochimaru is currently in a weak stage. A Jiraiya Vs Orochimaru for the final battle is much more fitting; and fits plot wise perfectly. Orochimaru dying to Sasuke is like Sasuke dying to the AL. Point less. I am almost positive Kabuto will be playing some role; and maybe revealling his true intentions after all of this time. __________________ Your signature was deleted by a mod because it exceeded the size limit as was requested in our forum rules. Please take a look at it.

2007-02-27, 20:43	Link #81
Sinaura Fat Warlord Join Date: Dec 2005	It's possible that Kabuto's final and only role with Oro was to be his container in the end, which would be sad but not unbelievable.

2007-02-27, 21:03	Link #82
majin_vegeta Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Well, it would make since for Kabuto to be his container, but the reason he wants Sauske to be his container is because of the Sharingan. That technique would allow him to easily amass thousands of Jutsu's. Orochimaru's goal is to master as many Jutsu's as possible. He may want the Sharingan, but he know's that their bodies wouldn't be able to hold him. He'll probably end up with Kabuto because of his unique ability to heal himself.

2007-02-28, 09:11	Link #86
tatami back in black Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Turkey Age: 41	hmm if oro dies the real deal bad guy will be al n_n

2007-02-28, 09:31	Link #87
Kage_Spyke burakkukoohii jouyousha Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Last time i checked...my own little world Age: 35	Really? or would the new big baddy be Sasuke?

2007-02-28, 10:07	Link #89
rman0099 On my nut Join Date: Aug 2004	Technically Oro has already outlived his usefulness. The reason for the introduction of the Sanin was to train the next generation of Sanin. As Kishi just put in the last chapter "The new generation shall surpass the previous." Oro has trained his next gen character just like Tsunade and Jiraya. Regardless, the chapter pacing agian feels too rushed. The previous spoiler seemed more like the Naruto we knew and loved. I think the first spoiler was much truer to the first 2 arcs of the post time skip (and all of pre-time skip for that matter) in spirit. Its getting bad when fanfic writers can make up chapters that seem to fit the characters/storyline better than the mangaka.

2007-02-28, 10:08	Link #90
tatami back in black Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Turkey Age: 41	sasuke is not a main bad character..only the things e do to reach his goals are debateable... on the other hand oro and al are true evilish chars...

2007-02-28, 14:38	Link #98
LittleLaptopChan My good neighbor Totoro Join Date: Apr 2004	fuhuhu...i like how there are 5 pages on an as-of-yet publicly unreleased naruto chap. Kishi must be doing something right. Yamata no Orochi was slain, and only afterwards was the Kusanagi sword discovered, inside of him. Sasuke trying to kill Orochimaru now means that he'll go after Itachi next, since who else would be willing to teach him high-end techniques? either that, or he's a pansy and will run back to Konoha, in hopes of joining forces with his old teammates and attack itachi. but since he's so determined to fight on his own, where else can he go to progress? -->Akatsuki. Possibly, Sasuke kills an Akatsuki member, then takes his spot. Not only will he be closer to Itachi, but obviously, everyone in Akatsuki needs mad skills, and may become even stronger the longer they stay there. That'd be a nice plot twist. But still, as of now, I don't believe Oro'll just turn over and die.

2007-02-28, 15:04	Link #99
shaselai Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	Oro doesnt really have any use left for the series. He had his moment of attacking the village and failing and that was pretty much the best part of his char. But dying in sickbed is kinda anticlimatic but it seems to me he really isnt much of a threat anymore on a grand scheme of things. Sasuke joining the Akatsuki might be possible and he might as well kill off Deidara since we've seen what he can do so any fighting scene with Deidara is kinda waste.