2014-08-25, 23:18 | Link #34624 |
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Egypt and UAE Air Force jets behind mysterious airstrikes on Islamist
militias in Libya: "The mysterious airstrikes that have hit Islamist militias in Tripoli at least twice during the last week were carried out by Egypt and United Arab Emirates warplanes. This is what U.S. officials said, according to the New York Times. Interestingly, the airstrikes were not coordinated with the U.S.: Washington was not even informed about the raids, even though some American planes have operated over Tripoli, supporting the recent evacuation of the US Embassy as well as performing surveillance missions in the area. It looks like the aircraft (or most of them) launched from Egyptian airbases (although Cairo has always denied a direct involvement in Libya) with UAE Air Force providing aircrews, attack planes and aerial refuelers. See: http://theaviationist.com/2014/08/25...tias-in-libya/ & http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/26/wo...irstrikes.html ========================================== Egypt And The United Arab Emirates Bombed Libya, And Qatar Could Be A Big Part Of The Reason Why: "Qatar's larger strategy of supporting Islamists throughout the Middle East has brought it into conflict with Egypt before. After the Egyptian military overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood government of former President Mohammed Morsi, relations between Qatar and Egypt rapidly cooled. Egypt has imprisoned three journalists from Al Jazeera, a Qatari-funded media company, on trumped-up terrorism charges. Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Bahrain have also taken issue with what they saw as Qatar's meddling in their internal affairs. The three countries withdrew their ambassadors from Qatar in March, in an unprecedented move among the countries, over protest of Qatar's support of Islamist movements. Bombings carried out by Egypt and the UAE against Islamists in Libya could be an extension of an anti-Qatari policy aimed at limiting the reach and impact of Islamist movements throughout the Middle East." See: http://www.businessinsider.com/egypt...d-libya-2014-8 |
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2014-08-26, 11:42 | Link #34627 | |
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Cease-fire negotiated in Gaza
The details have yet to be released, though it appears both sides have agreed to end hostilities, and Israel may have agreed to a relaxation of the embargo on goods entering the Gaza Strip. Quote:
Just a week ago a cease-fire seemed entirely out of reach.
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Amnesty Accuses Israel, Hamas Of War Crimes During Gaza Op (VIDEO) And goody, even UN is being convicted as a war criminal. U.N. guilty of war crimes with Hamas? Annnndddd.........natural selection at its finest. American Rapper Douglas McAuthur McCain Killed Fighting for Isis in Syria
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2014-08-27, 16:29 | Link #34632 | |
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Syrian army attacked on multiple fronts, IS claims air base
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2014-08-27, 22:04 | Link #34634 |
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Maybe this is actually what they want: to divert Israel forces from Gaza ?. IS and other Islam forces' battle plan seem kinda weird to me, they're trying to hit every possible targets. Unless they have a massive joint-force and a proper commanding chain, their attack shouldn't last more than 2 months.
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2014-08-27, 23:00 | Link #34635 |
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But clashing with Israel, even with a small victory can gain them massive support from Islamic public both within Middle East and outside. Simply due to hatred/backslash toward Israel recent reputation and the war on Gaza.
It's a tight rope that IS are walking on through. With each battle they bring toward Israel, the more supports and manpower they will gain from Islamic world. However inflicting too much damage on Israel and they may involve the Israel and US involvements and ended up have to fight too many fronts. This development could get dangerous. Just like how they have been avoiding US involvement by attacking Syria(which the US refuse to cooperate with), avoid Syrian involvement by attacking the Syrian rebel, or avoid Iranian/ Saudi involvement by attacking Iraq. It might sound stupid for them to fight in so many fronts. But that exactly the reason why each nations states thought they can use IS to weaken their rivals, but during that time allowing them to grow in strength and military number instead. In some way similar to German in WW2. The UK and France allowing them to take over their ally, Poland , thinking they will clash with USSR and weaken both in the process . However they have NAP with USSR and blitz through France instead, while USSR keep a close eyes thinking Hitler will be happy with conquer Eastern Europe.
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what type of sanction do you or anyone would think the western government would be willing to impose on China if China takes away HK self gov and goes direct governing form Beijing? Democracy activist in Hk needs to paid very close attention to Ukraine. If the western gov isn't willing to stand up to a replay of Prague invasion then what make any of them think the Western Gov will stand up for them.
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For that matter, what did the Soviets do when the US helped topple left-leaning governments in Latin America? I don't recall their coming to the aid of Chile's Salvador Allende in 1973 or Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala in 1954, to name just two.
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2014-08-28, 11:54 | Link #34638 | |
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Basically the response form western gov if China goes Tienanmen on the Democracy activist in HK is hot air and maybe some symbolic sanction.
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2014-08-28, 13:59 | Link #34639 | |
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If China, did as you say, suddenly take away HK self-gov and goes direct governing, I think it would be shocking to world opinion at least, and then people and world leaders are going to question whether any agreements with China or promises from China is likely to be upheld, when it goes back even on its own people. Again it's going to promote the Chinese threat image, which China seems keen to avoid. I think credibility is something that is important and China isn't going to risk it, because if you think from the opposite view, if China had nothing to lose by tearing up pledges, they would be directly governing Hong Kong right away. Ditto for China going Tiananmen on the democracy activity in Hong Kong - even if the Western countries don't go full scale sanctions, it would give extra impetus to the China threat image. And I think in the past, post-Tiananmen, the US believed that doing business with China and helping it turn into a market economy, would make it more liberal in the long-run. If another Tiananmen happened, that line of thinking would be totally discredited (not that it's not being challenged now already!), and I think you would see a difference in strategy and attitude towards China. So yeah, in a sense you have a point that the Western countries may not be willing to apply serious economic sanctions, but there's still the tremendous negative effects that would come from a V2 Tiananmen, that I think the Chinese government would think twice before doing it. ...and I haven't even brought up what would happen in Hong Kong, if there was a Tiananmen here, and in China. |
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I haven't heard anyone in the US sprout this line in at least a decade. I have read numerous article about why the prediction that China moving to a more capitalistic system didn't liberalize the government. Quote:
Bottom line is i think you guys are playing with fire. Xi has been anything but predictable.
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