2011-01-14, 14:41 | Link #5942 |
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finally had a chance to read the latest chapter!!
Damn, after reading a chapter full of Eba, my inner voice is urging me to switch side again...must resist... I decide to stop predicting and just wait to see what Seo can do...knowing Seo, he will probably come up with some typical excuse for haruto to meet Eba again (Ex..that tennis club Senpai wanna get Eba and asks Haruto for help...) Oh well, can't wait for the next chapter!!
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2011-01-14, 18:21 | Link #5950 |
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i don't see why everyone is dissing the kazama arc and calling him a corpse bastard?! that was definitely one of my favorite arcs of any of these wimpy leading male character love stories in which he always gets a whole harem to himself for doing nothing, that arc set this manga aside from all the countless others lying around in the world
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2011-01-14, 18:25 | Link #5951 | |
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2011-01-14, 18:33 | Link #5952 | |
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Since I should be reasonable and logical, Do you believe someone that uses the “I’m dying” card to get someone deserves anything. If anything that is considered blackmailing forcing someone into doing something they don’t want, he’s been rejected several times already so he decided to use the I’m dying card to see if it works lol, although there was no real hold on Eba the manner on which she suddenly agree left people puzzled. Sane normal people would just visit and leave flowers in his room instead. You don't need to be in a relationship for therapy to work thus you something called "Seodrome" means bad writting. |
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2011-01-14, 18:45 | Link #5953 | |
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2011-01-14, 18:56 | Link #5954 | |
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Is there a hope that Seo can redeem himself as a mangaka in the future with his next manga that’s what I'm more interested in, Suzuka wasn't terrible.. but KNIM is just outstandingly trash at this stage. P.S... Eba fan's are not in the minority ^^. |
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2011-01-14, 22:52 | Link #5955 | |
Hei aka Li Xiansheng
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As for Seo, I have no idea what his mangas were ranked, even KNIM, so I can't call that one(though I imagine most of the things that frustrate us western readers would do the same for those in japan).
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2011-01-14, 22:53 | Link #5956 | |
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I don't know how many ppl have stopped reading this manga..but I definitely won't stop because this manga somehow has a special place in my heart...this kind of pure school romance manga is getting rarer and rarer (Or I just don't know other good ones)...make no mistake, this is no I''s, Video girl Ai, or even Suzuka...but still, got to enjoy the manga while this kind of story still exists....no aliens, no ecchi principle...I will just enjoy this story while it lasts XD (I like To love ru also, but they are just different)
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2011-01-14, 23:48 | Link #5957 | |
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I mean, I keep reading and thinking after each chapter, "Gee, the drawings are SO NICE, but WHY do I keep bothering? WTH is going on with the writing?" |
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2011-01-14, 23:54 | Link #5958 | |
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It's horrendously obvious that Seo wants to keep selling this little cash puppy of his, so when he finally get to the point where Eba and Haruto couple up, something has to ruin it. Can you blame him for it? No, of course not. This is his job, it's his living. Unfortunately at this point it's clear (to me anyway) that he doesn't really enjoy it, but hey, if it brings home the $$$ then fuck it. At first you stick around because you've been following the manga for a year at this point, you've invested your time and emotions (to an extent) into it. Eba disappearing and cutting off communications has you worried. Something must be wrong, but what? You stick around. Seo leads you through the bushes and to the other side where you stand face to face with: A PLOT DEVICE. He needs their relationship to be fucked up somehow, and Kazaama is it. That's ALL he is. He was never mentioned before this arc, and he'll never be mentioned again afterwards, his sole purpose is to keep you happy, angry, or whatever, but still following along. This entire time no one in the story has really shown the need to question their mental capacity to make a decision, but this arc does exactly that. Eba turns fucking retarded, Kazama is the biggest selfish, morally corrupt prick in the entire story, and Haruto cements the fact that his twig and berries left him long ago for greater pasture somewhere, perhaps as firewood for the local boy scouts. 1. If you're in a relationship, and you establish that fact, and at least ONE side is adamant about it, then that relationship will continue until it's over. 2. With #1's information acknowledged, if something comes along to fuck around with it all, again, at least one side is going to stick to their guns. 3. With #1 and #2 both acknowledged, if sticking to your guns doesn't work, you fold and realize things aren't meant to be. You fought the good fight, but there's no need to go any further. That being said: --> Haruto and Eba are in a relationship. Haruto loves Eba, Eba loves Haruto. We know this. They know this. We are not shown any faults otherwise. --> Kazaama comes in to fuck around with it all. His reason? I wanted Eba in the past, she refused me. Now I'm about to kick the bucket, so why not try again before I go? Any normal person in their right god damn mind would reject this so hard the Earth would spin backwards fast enough to rewind time to before the question was asked just so they could bitch slap the person right before they asked it. --> This is where Eba's character is turned into a tool, a wrench to keep the gear of the plot device continuously turning. She refused the guy when she wasn't in a relationship every time, so naturally you would assume now that she's in one she'd do the same. Nope, she transcends pity sex and pities his damn existence. Congrats Eba, your a tool! --> This is also where Haruto turns into a fucking moron. Further more. You can't snap your girlfriend out of 'charity mode' (not that he even tried to) so as a guy you should tell the guy behind all this (Kazamma) to go into the future and have sexual intercourse with himself during surgery so that he can essentially fuck himself to death, but instead he treats the entire situation as a challenge, or a game if you will. That alone devalues the relationship he's got going with Eba, but the worst part is that even when it's clear as day he can't change her mind, or keep Kazaama from being King of the Dying Dick, he still INSISTS on being Kazama's friend and sticking by Eba somehow. Congrats, you're a bigger pile of shit then your girlfriend! So what happens is this: - The relationship is broken apart for someone who was thrown into the story that had essentially been there before Haruto, and suddenly given higher priority than him by means of DEATH. - Eba decides to accept the situation, make Haruto feel like a cow shit, suck the entire life out of their relationship. - Haruto sticks by her treating him like shit, the guy treating their relationship like shit, and consequently acknowledges that he himself is shit. That's why the arc was garbage. Every time a relationship happens in this manga something happens, always. Seo is afraid to actually keep his characters in an honest to god coupling because he doesn't have a god damn clue what to do afterwards. His brain drips out his ear and through the floor below him, where the tenants have buckets waiting since it's apparently been a problem for a while. Suzuka is proof of this, since once he's actually happy with a relationship, he ends the entire damn story since he pretty much time shoves the two characters up to having a damn baby while in high school. Look at Haruto's relationship with Asuka now, it's a joke. We've gotten more chapters previously of them setting up everything then we do them being an actual couple. Oh, he walks out of the love hotel, oh he's going to a mixer, what's next? Oh, he woke up in the middle of a pile of naked women and cocaine? She forgives all that? SUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. Haruto is getting back with Eba 1,000,000,000%, and this past chapter is proof of it. We're all sitting on the sidelines enjoying snacks with the clean up crew, waiting for the next inevitable train wreck.
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2011-01-15, 00:31 | Link #5960 |
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Awesome post Master Chibi and right on the money. Two fairly good characters in a pretty good relationship we were all enjoying and wondering where it would go, got in a writing train wreck because on some level, the Mangaka sux at writing. Excellent at drafting, awful at story.
Everyone likes to hold up Suzuka as something pretty special. I read it all through and even bought most of the translated tanks... that is until I realized that Suzuka didn't just seem like a biotch, she actually WAS a biotch. I stuck with it because the side chara were so good, but the heroine? Awful. One of the MOST awful I've EVER read. I really disliked Suzuka as a chara pretty much all through the series. She was cranky and rarely smiled. He gave the protagonist a terrible time, just walked on him and almost begrudgingly gave in finally, only to ditch the poor guy when it really mattered. Once she DOES turn up again, she's just as dour as before... What I ended-up taking away as the lesson of Suzuka was don't have premarital sex or you'll F'up your life stuck with someone you shouldn't have gone after in the first place. When KNIM started, it didn't HAVE that Suzuka feel and Eba v.1 was a fairly genki chara. I liked her style and felt good about her as the heroine. She actually balanced against Nanami v.1 and since Haruto was a likable guy himself... self-assurred and attractive to the others in the series, I was pretty happy reading along. Once the schism in the time/space continuum occurred and Eba v.1 became Eba v.2 "Darkgurl" causing BakaHaruto to emerge, this story has just been one of hanging on hoping someone will survive the wreck intact. No sign of life so far though... |
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