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View Poll Results: Is Naruto worthy of the Chuunin rank | |||
Yes, atleast! | 65 | 36.52% | |
Yes, but he (seriously) lacks knowlegde | 63 | 35.39% | |
No, but i think it wont take too long till he becomes it | 12 | 6.74% | |
No | 13 | 7.30% | |
No, not at all. He should be glad to be a genin. | 25 | 14.04% | |
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2007-02-05, 16:43 | Link #121 | |
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Naruto pre time skip also inspired a lot of people and that is one of the leadership traits, something that Shikamaru or any of the other genins lacked. |
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2007-02-05, 16:59 | Link #122 |
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Naruto is the most unintelligent person in the anime. I think ALL of you already know that. If i was the creater i wouldnt make the protagonist like that. Power wise, he obvioulsy is at chunin rank. Damn i wish SAuke was the main character. He would prbably already be jonin.
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2007-02-05, 17:25 | Link #123 | ||
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As long as Naruto can lead his team forward and at the same time having the ability to achieve success, then it would be hard to discuss against his case being promoted as a chuunin. Also, if you try to form a team with each of them, Shika will be able to adapt to his teammates, but for Naruto you are expected to adapt to him - but, still, there is at least one case against that (against Zabuza - again showing the randomness in his decision resulting in luck-based results). Because of that Shika was able to be selected as a chuunin, while Naruto wasn't. Shika was ready for the missions - even if it is not at the required experience level, while Naruto wasn't. As I said above, Naruto's main advantage is his strength, and as long as he does have the strength to lead his team, then he should be allowed to take that rank. Even though pre-time skip Naruto didn't have that strength, there are cases that might be used to support him in addition to cases leading to the completely opposite direction. But, for me, as I said at the beginning, he was not ready. Quote:
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2007-02-05, 19:40 | Link #124 |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Naruto may be dim in certain areas but hes not an idiot. i mean he did master alot of techniques that no other genin could. Name another genin with the ability to to Summon(weapons dont count), name a genin that can learn the shadow clone jutsu in one day. a genin who is able to manipulate the shape of his chakra in his hand an perform the rasengan? he knows how to control his shadow clones and lead them into attack he knows that he can use some as a diversion and attack with another from behind, and he knows how to be sneaky when he needs to be. he has more stamina and chakra capacities then anyone in Konoha. Find a genin with natural srength equal to his(Remember his natural chakra is at least 2x that of Kakashi, not including the capabiliies of the Kyuubi)
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2007-02-05, 20:18 | Link #125 | |||
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2007-02-05, 23:42 | Link #126 | |
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Yes, I know Tokubetsu is lower...that's the whole point...he won't be expected to perform Jonin functions, he won't be a team leader and will still be able to function as a team member under a full Jonin. While I agree that Naruto would probably want to become full Jonin, I don't think that it would stop him from accepting Tokubetsu...and there's no rule saying you can't later be promoted to Jonin after you become more suitable. |
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2007-02-06, 00:00 | Link #127 | |
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2007-02-06, 05:27 | Link #128 |
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I completely argee with Sabaku Kyu's arguements up above. Well said.
On a different note I'm rather enjoying this thread. It's full of rational arguement...or maybe there is just very little fanboyism abound. I enjoy the arguement from both sides. And on yet another different note, for those who used examples such as the Haku fight, painting the Hokage faces, and other early events. Wasn't the whole point of that showing how Naruto has grown? He has definately come a long way and is deserving of Chuunin. He may not be the best in every area but those who do show strength in almost every area are usually...jounin. I tend to think that all of the Konoha genin(main characters) have proven they are worthy of Chuunin rank. At least in comparison to the Chuunin we've seen. Like I said before, Chuunin is simply a middle class ninja. They all fit that role to me. Actually, now that I think about it. Ino has yet to impress me...but that is neither here nor there. |
2007-02-06, 07:54 | Link #129 | |
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There were some nice posts up there...things where i never thought about.
I think Leadership can be divided into a few segments such as: - Follow him/her by the rules - Follow him/her by his/her insperation - Folllow him/her because of his strenght Sometimes you dont have a choice...it's been decided that....Shikamaru should lead (Sasuke chase) however they didnt want to follow his lead because they didnt knew he could pull it off...but because of the rules they had no choice. Now Naruto is a person who is followed because he inspires people (Hinata for example) i think that is also a great ability. Quote:
Think about it (Paper test, 1st Exam) you can follow smart leaders but leaders who take away your fear (Naruto) can give you more strenght. Sooner or later (perhaps already) is the person with the most experience of his generation going to be Naruto. And it's unlikely that such a person needs to deal with barriers such as a low IQ. Being smart & knowlegde are two different things. I am positive that Shikamaru is smarter then 3rd or the Sannin. But their knowlegde is way too much of a difference. A factor which is most important in battle.
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2007-02-06, 08:24 | Link #130 | |
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The Sasuke Retrieval Arc showcased this. They already had orders to follow Shikamaru. That still didn't stop Naruto, Kiba, and Neji from being skeptical of his leadership. Not a good thing when going into a mission. Shikamaru first impressed everyone with his intelligence when he put together a perfect formation and strategy in only a few moments. But it was his charismatic speech about Sasuke that inspired everyone and sold the deal that he was someone you'd want to follow into battle. Shikamaru demonstrated both traits you want in a leader. Kiba: Now you are starting to look like you deserve that chuunin title. |
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2007-02-15, 15:03 | Link #134 |
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*Been re-watching old eps*
I have come to the conclusion that anyone could kick Naruto's ass just as long as they keep their mouths shut! Naruto is a plum. As long as you don't fuck with him mentally he's there to be plucked... TRUTH!
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2007-02-16, 02:47 | Link #135 | |
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__________________________________________________ *Naruto getting beat up by some jutsu that both shocked/suprised him and made him wonder how it was possible* *queue Naruto's "I'm about to win this fight" music* Naruto(While getting up) - "I won't take back my words...It's my...way of the ninja!" Character he's fighting - "What?!? But umm...you haven't even said any words to take back yet. We just went right into the the whole fighting thing..." Naruto - "I'll prove that you're wrong, and that even a drop-out can change!" Character he's fighting - "I'm not even sure what yer talking about. I never said..." *Naruto goes Crazy-Kyubi-Mode* "...what the?!?...sigh, is this even fair?" *Naruto proceeds to win the fight anyways.* __________________________________________________ So in the end they would still turn out the same. Just with Naruto having a slight case of insanity. |
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2007-02-16, 07:45 | Link #137 |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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on the latest development of story, naruto is absolutely worth the rank jounin because kakashi jimself admitted that naruto has surpassed him in every area!!
but on the other side, im sad to see kakashi has been surpassed, the kakashi we know will never be the same again! |
2007-02-18, 13:32 | Link #139 |
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Like I was just saying in another thread he's atleast worthy of being Chunnin right now and should get a special exemption by Tsunade (based on her knowing his true-powers and his training with Jaraiya)...I mean I know the fillers have lessened Rasengan to the point you can find it in a gumball machine, but still that's almost a sannin level technique to go with his jounin level cloning skills...And just because he's a Chunnin doesn't mean he has to have a group or be group leader...Tsunade pretty much groups who she wants together and I see no reason why Naruto couldn't be grouped with other Chunnins on mission where he isn't necessarily the group leader(atleast to start)...At some point your accomplishments have to start meaning something despite his lack of great strategic skills (which may come in the way of leading troops, but Naruto has shown he does know how to improvise and think strategic when it's just him)...He's beaten a Kazekage in Gaara, a Jounin-level in Negi (and Kabuto who he nearly killed), progressed way faster than genius-level Sasuke pre-cursed sealed...Learned a technique in Rasengan faster than the chosen one Yondaime did...At some point you have to throw your pre-conceptions out of the window and reward him based on the opponents he's fought and situations he's dealt with...Based on his ranking he's a joke to become Hokage right now and while that makes him a cool sleeper or secret-weapon it doesn't represent what he's capable of...I mean Ino and Choji couldn't hold Naruto's water bottle...It's sad really...
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2007-02-18, 13:45 | Link #140 |
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Well, Its a bit different, Yondaime created the Jutsu, Naruto was told what to do to, I'm not taking the merit away from Naruto in learning this Jutsu so fast, but there is a difference between creating and learning.
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