Medaka Box [Manga]

[kenjtr]

Originally Posted by novalysis

I was referring to the fact that Zenkichi is more interesting apart from Medaka than with Medaka. It's Medaka that makes Zenkichi boring, not Zenkichi being boring in himself.

So, yes, I'd agree with you that Zen is potentially interesting, but Zen is only interesting apart from Medaka. Which is why I feel that Zen comes to life whenever he is apart from Medaka.

Yeah its like medakas flame swallows zens flame cause its so big , zenkichi is more like a natural leader and when he is not with medaka people gather around him .

[Sixth]

Why is Shiranui always causing trouble to Medaka? Medaka wants to meet the professor, the professor was about to welcome them, but no, Shiranui wants the professor to hurt Medaka and her friends just because she don't want to see Medaka. She don't care about the consequence of her action at all.

Wtf, dude.

[RedKey]

Originally Posted by noobita

Why is Shiranui always causing trouble to Medaka? Medaka wants to meet the professor, the professor was about to welcome them, but no, Shiranui wants the professor to hurt Medaka and her friends just because she don't want to see Medaka. She don't care about the consequence of her action at all.

Wtf, dude.

I think it's because she still has to sort out wether she likes her or hates her. Currently she doesn't even know about her own feelings, so saying that may buy her time to think about it. And it's not like Fukurou and the suitors plan to kill Medaka's group, anyway, just keep them at bay.

At least, that's my personal view.

[Wolfenstein]

Technically speaking, Shiranui just said that she couldn't allow them to meet, Fukurou and Medaka, that is.

Why? No clue. We're not supposed to have a clue, though. Even Shiranui herself dosen't know. The only thing we know is that she thinks she's not that admirable of a person, and that she's irresponsible.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Wolfenstein

Technically speaking, Shiranui just said that she couldn't allow them to meet, Fukurou and Medaka, that is.

Why? No clue. We're not supposed to have a clue, though. Even Shiranui herself dosen't know. The only thing we know is that she thinks she's not that admirable of a person, and that she's irresponsible.

Well, then she could at least ask the Professor to hides/moves her away from the location if she doesn't want to see Medaka instead of asking the professor to "stop" Medaka's group.

[Wolfenstein]

You're confused.

She said she didn't want Medaka to meet with Doctor Tsurubami.

[RedKey]

Originally Posted by Wolfenstein

You're confused.

She said she didn't want Medaka to meet with Doctor Tsurubami.

You're right, I forgot about that. Well, that might be because it looks like she's still protecting Medaka - Karai even asks her if she's still acting as her double, after all

[Wolfenstein]

^Pretty much.

Although, she seems to half reject that notion, stating that she dosen't think she's that admirable of a person.

Personally, I think that might just be a product of her own confusion. She has no idea how she really feels. I wouldn't like if the feelings she showed the day before to Medaka were real, to be honest. I loved the Shiranui that didn't give a crap about anyone, except for the obvious exception. And she seems to be at her most direct and clear when she's talking/acting about/on that friendship.

[Guernsey]

Although that may change considering that Medaka Box is still a shonen manga consider that most shonen manga is about friendship and what not.

[DawnEmperor]

Originally Posted by noobita

Why is Shiranui always causing trouble to Medaka? Medaka wants to meet the professor, the professor was about to welcome them, but no, Shiranui wants the professor to hurt Medaka and her friends just because she don't want to see Medaka. She don't care about the consequence of her action at all.

Wtf, dude.

What exactly are you complaining about? It's sounds like you're nitpicking.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by DawnEmperor

What exactly are you complaining about? It's sounds like you're nitpicking.

So, I am not allow to complain the character's weakness/poor decision now? Funny you know, some of the posters were not happy with Medaka's action and they were posted all over here in the past.

Did you said the same thing to them too?

[DawnEmperor]

Originally Posted by noobita

So, I am not allow to complain the character's weakness/poor decision now? Funny you know, some of the posters were not happy with Medaka's action and they were posted all over here in the past.

Did you said the same thing to them too?

Actually, I have. Maybe not frequently, but I have. While I'm not the biggest fan of Medaka, I don't see her as the antichrist. I just think it's better to question a character's motivation rather than simply bash them because because "I think they're annoying".

[kenjtr]

I really need to know what happened in the middle school and why doesnt zenkichi remembers it pls explain it to me mangaka

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by kenjtr

why doesnt zenkichi remembers it

All Fiction.

[Wolfenstein]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

All Fiction.

A possible explanation.

But I don't know. Medaka dosen't remember it either. And it seems as though All-Fiction has no effect over her.

I generally just thought that the trauma was so much, their minds erased the memories as a defense mechanism, though I agree that's really pushing it.

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On another note, what is it you guys's want explained most about middle-school?

Personally, Kumagawa talked as if he, Zenkichi and Anshin'-san were friends or something. Even Anshin'-san said something wierd in the same fashion. I'd really like to know what the fuck they were talking about.

Oh, and that whole Akune/Ajimu deal as well.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Wolfenstein

But I don't know. Medaka dosen't remember it either. And it seems as though All-Fiction has no effect over her.

When was this said? Hell, it's basically outright stated in the first chapter of the current arc that All Fiction is the reason no one remembers middle school.

Originally Posted by Wolfenstein

On another note, what is it you guys's want explained most about middle-school?

Why Maguro remembered Ajimu. And, for that matter, who the fifth member of Kumagawa's student council was.

[Wolfenstein]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

When was this said? Hell, it's basically outright stated in the first chapter of the current arc that All Fiction is the reason no one remembers middle school.

Really? Well, let me check that. It seems I completely missed it.

And as for that, wouldn't All-Fiction not work on Medaka due to MC status, plus the fact she has All-Fiction herself? It technically failed to erase her memories of Shiranui, though the description was rather vague.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Wolfenstein

And as for that, wouldn't All-Fiction not work on Medaka due to MC status, plus the fact she has All-Fiction herself? It technically failed to erase her memories of Shiranui, though the description was rather vague.

Medaka has never been immune to Skills just because she can use them.
It was explained in Chapter 159 that, as All Fiction has weakened, Medaka and Zenkichi, due to their emotional connections to Shiranui, can remember her, and it's suggested in the same chapter that All Fiction may in fact have always had that limitation: Kumagawa says something cryptic about Maguro remembering Ajimu, and we've already seen it fail to erase Raff Raffelsia, to Kumagawa's surprise (at the time).
Also, before anyone claims that Maguro isn't even mentioned in 159, check the raws, the translators missed something.

[DawnEmperor]

Originally Posted by Wolfenstein

On another note, what is it you guys's want explained most about middle-school?

Personally, Kumagawa talked as if he, Zenkichi and Anshin'-san were friends or something. Even Anshin'-san said something wierd in the same fashion. I'd really like to know what the fuck they were talking about.

Oh, and that whole Akune/Ajimu deal as well.

It always seemed like Zenkichi was a bit isolated from the rest of the characters due to being fixtated on Medaka. When Anshin was reminiscing about Zenkichi, she seemed to only remember his training to defeat Medaka(then again, it was the arc right before). Yes, he has some interactions with them(animosity with Akune, fear of Kumagawa), but that's still mainly in relation to their connection to Medaka.

I hope to be proven wrong though, maybe he had some other things to do(there's been constant comments that they drifted apart at some point).

[Wolfenstein]

What you're saying makes sense, Sol. What with that whole Maguro thing, If I could read raws, so I'll just take your word for it.

Originally Posted by DawnEmperor

It always seemed like Zenkichi was a bit isolated from the rest of the characters due to being fixtated on Medaka. When Anshin was reminiscing about Zenkichi, she seemed to only remember his training to defeat Medaka(then again, it was the arc right before). Yes, he has some interactions with them(animosity with Akune, fear of Kumagawa), but that's still mainly in relation to their connection to Medaka.

I hope to be proven wrong though, maybe he had some other things to do(there's been constant comments that they drifted apart at some point).

Recall what was specifically stated about such a time?

That Medaka and Zenkichi drifted apart from each other during middle-school.

That in mind, remember when Kumagawa talked about the three of them meeting again in conversation after his homicide + suicide?

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Or this strange scene:

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I can feel a backstory to this, passes off the impression that they used to talk to each other or something, maybe it explains why Zenkichi's dream is also the middle-school classroom where he and Kumagawa meet Ajimu.

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