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2009-04-22, 18:24 | Link #64 |
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i have a question,just wondering what u guys think...
everybody in teh straw hats has the vivre card right? so lets say luffy does escape with iva,jinbei and crocodile and starts to search for all the others right? well nami is in sky island,and zoro is where the horo horo girl got sent by kuma in the thriller bark arc,zand the others r located far away from where luffy is,so what is he gonna go back to look for all of them? or does kuma gonna help him? |
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the vivrecard in question belongs to Rayleigh. Therefore, the crew would need to seek him out first if they want to reunite. Seeing as about a week has passed since the events at Sabaody, ol' Silvers should have been long done with the coating job, so they can set off to their next destination as soon as they rejoin each other.... Anyways, I read a translation of the chapter's script. I'm now about 98% certain that Luffy's going to Marineford. He even says that he will when Iva tells him that it's pretty much too late to break Ace out of prison at this point. And as for Crocodile.... he straight-up tells Luffy that he's interested in the upcoming war, and that he's no longer interested in Alabasta (and as I figured, he's not holding any grudge towards him). Also, Jinbei says that he knew Ace since he first joined Whitebeard's crew when he volunteers to help out (kinda figured that was the case, as well). Unsurprisingly, Luffy is unaware that Jinbei's a Shichibukai..... Quote:
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Yeah, I lol'ed at the lv6 prisoners getting Death Winked. Well, the floor also serves as death row, so I guess we really can't expect everyone down there to be as powerful as Croc or Jinbei. I still feel pretty sure that those prisoners that Iva named are all forces to be reckoned with, however...... |
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2009-04-22, 19:50 | Link #68 |
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I agree. It just wouldn't be feasible/realistic for the Impel Down portion of this storyline to last a whole year. With the current developments in the story, I feel it's safe to be just as certain as you that the story will soon transition into the upcoming war at Marineford.
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2009-04-22, 20:08 | Link #70 |
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Y'know, now that Crocodile's partnered with Luffy, I think this actually increases the chance of Shiryuu turning out to be a Logia DF user. I mean, just look at the team-up we have here: Two powerful revolutionaries, two Shichibukai (well, one of them's a former Shichi, but you get the point), and a Supernova. That's a pretty damned formidable alliance if I do say so myself. And if the group contains a Logia user, then I think it would be pretty appropriate if Impel Down had one of their own as well, to.... y'know, balance things out a bit. Either that, or he could be a "pseudo-Logia" like Magellan. Because the way I see it, the team Luffy's assembled now is pretty much at a SSJ Jesus-level of broken......
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2009-04-22, 21:18 | Link #72 |
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did they mention if they gonna show Shiryuu or his power in the impledown arc?
and ok so luffy and crocodile iva and jinbei together,once they escape impledown is there ay other goverment admirals there or schibubukais? i mean they are very strong those 4 together,but again lets say if theres 2 admirals, and a few schibubuakis u can see how it will still be hard for them to escape,but they still have boahancock help probably once she will see luffy is out she will probably prefer to stick with him and not to go up againts whitebeard.... |
2009-04-22, 21:25 | Link #73 |
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I think Magellan and Shiryuu should suffer a loss in the hands of two (ex-)Shichibukai, especially if Luffy is bound to lose to any of those. Especially Crocodile can be a good match-up for Magellan and that means Shiryuu fighting against Jinbei (making Shiryuu a typical straight on fighter). This will be pretty good considering we get to see Jinbei fight, Crocodile possibly showing a new move against Magellan, and of course the quality of the fights can be much better when those are involving.
Of course Oda can just omit those parts and move directly to escape. |
2009-04-22, 23:43 | Link #74 |
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I'm pretty sure that a rematch between Luffy and Magellan is inevitable. IMO, it would be a bit of a copout for Luffy if he didn't face the warden again. I mean, it's not like he went through nearly 24 hours of suffering from that poison for nothing.... something's gotta give. Sure, there would undoubtedly be stronger opponents waiting for him at Marineford, but he should take care of business in the prison first (besides, Magellan would make a good guinea pig for Luffy's newfound Haki abilities, as I mentioned before). Just leave Shiryuu to the Shichibukai, I say......
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2009-04-22, 23:50 | Link #75 |
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Luffy is not a good matchup against Magellan. And that won't change even if he faces him again. If Crocodile says that he will take care of him, and if Iva says, let's leave this to him, then I highly doubt Luffy would say, no, it is my job to take care of him. It is not like he has a personal grudge against Magellan, or he has to personally take care of him to move on, especially when he has other things to do.
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^Your point notwithstanding (it is a good line of thought, even if I do not necessarily agree with it), Crocodile is an even worse match-up than Luffy. Crocodile's weakness is liquids; Magellan's attacks are liquids. So, Crocodile vs. Magellan = Magellan's victory. Jinbei, being a fishman (who ever heard of liquid hurting a fish? ), might be a better match-up.
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Captain Morgan- Luffy's easy win. Buggy- Luffy was at a disadvantage here, but never really lost since the fight with Buggy was just one battle that Luffy won in the end. Captain Kuro- Luffy passed out after Jango gave the hypnotic order. He woke up and defeated Kuro. Don Kreig- kept fighting and prevailed. Kreig never really won over Luffy in this fight. Just held him off most of the time. Arlong- Luffy was tossed in the water and was looking to lose. He came back and defeated Arlong completely. Smoker- Defeated twice, but no clear winner. Mr. 3- Again, Luffy never really lost this fight with him. It was Ms. GoldenWeek who did a better job of holding him off. Wapol- Luffy beat him at every turn. Crocodile- Luffy lost the first match. He was dehydrated again, but caught up and defeated Crocodile. Enel- Luffy is tossed off the arc. Came back and beat him with Golden Rifle. Foxy- Luffy kept getting frozen and never got the chance to really pound him until the end. Rob Lucci- Defeated, stabbed, and tossed between buildings. Defeated Lucci with the Gear systems. Moria- It was hard for Luffy hit Moria and took more hits then he was giving. Luffy turned it around in the end. As the trend shows it always shows Luffy having trouble with most enemies at first or defeated. Only to have victory in the end. Like i said before. When Luffy last faced the warden he was weakened from hunger after the previous level. Not only has Luffy fed now, but also got an adrenaline shot.
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Remember we still have so much unfinished business in Impel Down with so many characters Hannybal and the Head Jailor, Sadi-chan [Lady with the over-grown animals] that could also try and delay the new team Luffy with a battle. Heck not too mention characters Oda hasn't even handled yet, Shiryuu, Katarina Devon, The Giant Battleship, San Juan Wolf & Basco Shot. There's just too much unfinished business in Impel Down for Luffy just to leave like that..... With that said, I truly beleive in my heart that when Oda said he "WANTS" to wrap up Impel Down in a year [Mangaaka's are terrible with timing], he meant that. and when he said the climax would be "EPIC," I'm guessing that would be the War. Oh and LOL at Jinbei for trying to hype up Impel Down, congratulating Luffy for getting through all "five levels of hell" in this Mickey Mouse of a prison. |
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LOL, I was joking more than anything. But, I do stand by what I said cocnerning a Crocodile vs. Magaellan fight.
I can't help but feel that you are overemphasizing Luffy's ability to get through "Hell", and consequently missing all the monstrous contraptions and torture devices in the prison. From Level 1 ~ Crimson Hell with its devious bladed trees and needle grass all the way down to the severe frostbite of Level 5 ~ Freezing Hell (I'm still unsure if Level 6 has a theme or not); Impel Down is one of the coolest and most dangerous prisons seen in (Shounen) anime/manga. |
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*Just Read the full script* will wait for a better Trans. Out of the blue, What if Jinbei was a swordsman? |
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