2009-05-12, 06:51 | Link #19021 | |
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2009-05-12, 11:25 | Link #19022 | |
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But yeah, I mean Kallen almost killed Suzaku in that episode, so it's pretty safe to say Gino wouldn't stand a chance. |
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2009-05-12, 11:33 | Link #19023 | |
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there are two main theory about that praticular scene in regards to kallen and suzaku 1)suzaku is saying that he has to be the one to fight kallen becouse SHE wouldnt let him pass the buck to gino anyway (possibly becouse of the refrain thing) 2)suzaku is saying "your not good enough gino" so he has to fight her, which is removes any vendeta from the picture, and makes it seem that kallen ALSO wants to take gino out the dub seems to support the 2nd option P.S its just a dub means "they have been known to be wrong, or to change things becouse they feel like it"
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2009-05-12, 11:43 | Link #19024 | |
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2009-05-12, 11:46 | Link #19025 |
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fansubs can be wrong, but they translate the original japanese statements wrong
the dub, on the other hand tends to take libreties with the script and simply make up their own version thats why i usually dont give it too much importence
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2009-05-12, 12:03 | Link #19026 |
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Well, believe it or not, this is an art to dubbing. I mean, it would be simple to translate the script verbatim and then having the VAs just read if off. But no, they have to reword and structure the script in order to make it sound natural and lip synch it properly and convey the right emotions. True, for there are some changes, but for the most the script is left intact and they certainly wouldn't leave out anything that is vitally important to the story (unless it's 4kids). But this is kind of OT, so I guess we can just write this off as a difference of opinion if you wish.
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2009-05-12, 14:26 | Link #19028 | |
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The resulting argument is which one is right.
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2009-05-12, 14:31 | Link #19029 | |
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The bottom line is that both implications can been seen as being pretty much on the ball. I will say this. I've never fully trusted a dub since I laid eyes upon Cardcaptor Sakura.
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2009-05-12, 14:43 | Link #19031 |
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the difference is
1)is suzaku facing kallen becouse he doesnt have a choice (she would attack him) ? 2)or is he doing it by choice becouse he doesnt believe gino can do it ? it matters becouse it sets kallen's mindframe as well is she "payback time suzaku" or is she "move over so i can kill the blond guy" which is another nice dog-shit bullet between the eyes of a certain ship and the dub REALLY makes gino come off as a dick both eps 18 with his "dream wont come true" line and 17, where he calls her a hybrid, which almost sounds like he means being half eleven means being only half human
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2009-05-12, 14:50 | Link #19032 | |
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Still we don't really need more bullets into the Kagino corpse so nothing really hangs in the balance in between these two arguments. Personally though due to past experience I usually trust the subs over the dubs.
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2009-05-12, 14:52 | Link #19033 | |
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Gino comes off as a dick no matter how you translate it, because he's telling her that she chose wrong and she'd be better off as a Britannian, then crushing her dreams when she indirectly denies him.
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2009-05-12, 15:03 | Link #19035 |
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Do not generalize. Yes, dubs can be "gtfo, i can do better" at times, but some others, are good-quality ones. Geass, falls in the second category. About Gino, no matter dub/translation w/e, the guy was a prick on that moment, that is obvious to any eye. Thus, i always wanted Kallen to smash his pretty face back on that epi, but alas. |
2009-05-12, 15:14 | Link #19036 |
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even more like it in ep 17
he really sounds like an ass "hey look, i understand that your a britannian eleven halfbreed right ?" "if you chose the name stadfeld instead of kouzuki you could very well have a good life" "you could even become a knight of rounds if you have such ambitions" "is this going somewhere" "what i mean is, wouldnt you like to come over to our side kallen" (with that annoying smile on) i swear that it sounds even more annoying then it did before i dont know if this is ignorance or condecention, or a mix of both maybe
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2009-05-12, 20:24 | Link #19037 |
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Lol, i just have to post this, but have any of you guys joined LJ?
http://community.livejournal.com/fan...45.html#cutid1 109, 116, 138. Honest, what? lol //i get a feeling, that all of those people are from here. |
2009-05-12, 20:53 | Link #19038 | |
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2009-05-12, 20:56 | Link #19039 |
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What i do not get, is why they posted on the fandom secrets comm, since it is supposed to be "fandom-secret." Everyone knows, that Kalulu is mostly being hated, same with Kallen fans that are being labeled as aggressive. Oh wait, yeah, it is not supposed to be the same posters from here, it is ~~LJ~~ Well, imma reply, especially to 116 {Mary Sue what? lol} and 138, lol. |
2009-05-12, 21:03 | Link #19040 | |
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I can't tell you how much I laughed at this. You can feel the pain from the posts
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