(L) To Love-ru -Trouble- Darkness [manga]

[Mizuno]

Originally Posted by kk2extreme

fixed, why stop with one

Coz performing that in one day is quite a stretch.


Anyway, we had 2 chapters of skinship with Momo and 1 chapter with Mea, I think it's time for some skinship with Yami next chapter. *dies*

[Zoofranz]

Originally Posted by Xagzan

Side note: Yui smiling is adorable (and rare!)

Probably my favourite part of the chapter. Remind me of Rito's epic line: "Kotegawa...I didn't know you could smile"

[Magin]

Based on the comments about the chapters, I'm thinking that once more, Yabuki chose the wrong magazine for his series... seriously, this should be in one of the magazines where, though perhaps not explicitly shown, the sex does happen, though certainly not at hentai level (speaking of which, the lack of sex and the fact that there might even be a plot are literally the only two things keeping this from being a hentai... and of course, the magazine in which its published)

though I think I'm behind on this because I'm a Lala/Yui supporter, and with Momo in the spotlight... not exactly interested. Once either of the aforementioned girls get back in the limelight, THEN I'll really start paying attention

[Xagzan]

Originally Posted by Zoofranz

Probably my favourite part of the chapter. Remind me of Rito's epic line: "Kotegawa...I didn't know you could smile"

That chapter also showed that given who her brother is, who she shares genes with, if Yui ever comes to terms with her feelings and herself, she could be a pretty chill girl. She showed that just by laughing off Rito's freakout.

Originally Posted by Magin

Based on the comments about the chapters, I'm thinking that once more, Yabuki chose the wrong magazine for his series... seriously, this should be in one of the magazines where, though perhaps not explicitly shown, the sex does happen, though certainly not at hentai level (speaking of which, the lack of sex and the fact that there might even be a plot are literally the only two things keeping this from being a hentai... and of course, the magazine in which its published)

I don't think people are actually upset about lack of sex. In my opinion, that would just cheapen it anyway. We're pretty much loving it as it is now. Besides, Rito's nowhere near ready for sex.

Originally Posted by Magin

though I think I'm behind on this because I'm a Lala/Yui supporter, and with Momo in the spotlight... not exactly interested. Once either of the aforementioned girls get back in the limelight, THEN I'll really start paying attention

No one loves Yui more than me, but even still, I'm having great fun with Darkness. Momo definitely picks up the slack, and we've seen the main girls in just about every chapter so far.

[Kurosu]

So...

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/1...ga-ban-passes/ (nsfw)

any thoughts on TLRD possibly getting shellacked?

[Mizuno]

So far the scope only extends to Tokyo, right?

Still can't believe they passed it when there are more pressing things to worry about. -_-

[Xagzan]

Given what I understand about this thing, it seems like this move will make the manga moneyflow start going dowwwwnnn. Can't imagine the publishers will stand for it forever.

[Kanon]

I knew this was going to be brought up here sooner or later. Why does everyone only read Shitkaku's article? Jesus...

The bill has not passed yet. And no, To Love-ru isn't likely to be affected if it does. Shueisha won't let it happen.

Originally Posted by ANN

Shueisha senior managing director and editor Kazuhiko Torishima said at the New Manga Creators Awards ceremony on Monday: “I want new manga authors to produce manga that would blow away [Tokyo Governor] Shintaro Ishihara.” Masahiko Ibaraki, the editor-in-chief of Shueisha's third editorial department, added to the new manga creators, "Don't let the chilling effect [of increased regulation] stop you from doing material you want to do. Jump will feature anything [we feel] that is exciting [to read].“

I'm sure most people working in the industry feel the same way. They'll fight tooth and nail to keep publishing what they want to publish (and what sells well, of course). If worse comes to worst, they'll just have to relocate outside of Tokyo, or create a R-18 magazine featuring risqué works like TLR.

[Xagzan]

Originally Posted by Kanon

I knew this was going to be brought up here sooner or later. Why does everyone only read Shitkaku's article? Jesus...

The bill has not passed yet. And no, To Love-ru isn't likely to be affected if it does. Shueisha won't let it happen.



I'm sure most people working in the industry feel the same way. They'll fight tooth and nail to keep publishing what they want to publish (and what sells well, of course). If worse comes to worst, they'll just have to relocate outside of Tokyo, or create a R-18 magazine featuring risqué works like TLR.

Ah, excellent, what I said has already started then. Admittedly I really haven't followed this story so I'm largely in the dark. But I figured TLR, especially with how many color spreads it's getting and how apparently rare that is, is selling pretty damn well, and that the publishers hopefully wouldn't just let it get affected.

As long as TLR is safe, I'm good. It was already taken from us once.

[Shadow5YA]

R-18 is generally a death sentence to most forms out entertainment, though. It's like a movie getting a NC-17 rating instead of R, or a video game getting an ESRB rating of Adults Only instead of M. It severely limits the audience, and the profits as a result.

[Simonsy]

whats stopping the magazine to just putting it in plastic so that you can't read it like a playboy?

does that solve it, or is this bill making this stuff illegal like drugs or something?

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

R-18 is generally a death sentence to most forms out entertainment, though. It's like a movie getting a NC-17 rating instead of R, or a video game getting an ESRB rating of Adults Only instead of M. It severely limits the audience, and the profits as a result.

TLR already has a solid fanbase, so I don't think it would matter much in its case. Just to be clear, the problem with Darkness wouldn't be the nudity (it's not a problem at all, as far as I know, except maybe for Mikan who's under 13. Just need to age her a bit.), but the harem plan. The bill specifically targets works that glorify "relationships that would be illegal in real-life" ; however convincing Momo is, Harem is not something that would sit well with these guys.

We'll just have to wait and see. There's no need to be afraid yet.

[DragoZERO]

This series falls no where close to where that bill is aimed at. The closest we've gotten to sex is groping and a brief inference at oral sex which you wouldn't get unless you were old enough to do it, in which case it doesn't matter.

[Kurosu]

It doesn't sound like you understand the scope of the bill.

Originally Posted by ANN

The current ordinance already prevents the sale and renting of "harmful publications" — materials that are "sexually stimulating, encourages cruelty, and/or may compel suicide or criminal behavior" to people under the age of 18. Bill 156 would require the industry to also regulate "manga, anime, and other images (except for real-life photography)" that "unjustifiably glorify or exaggerate" certain sexual or pseudo sexual acts.

The key words here are "sexually stimulating" and "unjustifiably glorify or exaggerate certain sexual or pseudo sexual acts"

if anything, we should at least be able to agree that by law, TLRD would be considered a direct offender. We can argue whether or not shueisha will do something about this, though I'm curious as to how it will play out. It won't go into affect until summer anyway, so we will either see shueisha do a mass boycott or find some loophole. But I don't think it's smart to declare this bill benign to TLRD. Even if shueisha is a big company, I don't think they can circumvent the law that easily. They can disobey it all they want, so I'm curious to see how the government will react to it.

[DragoZERO]

It has nothing to do with understanding... my source simply said the bill was aimed at stuff morally wrong and illegal.

And this series does not fall under that because nothing is unjustified.

[Kurosu]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

It has nothing to do with understanding... my source simply said the bill was aimed at stuff morally wrong and illegal.

And this series does not fall under that because nothing is unjustified.

That's not it exactly. It's what they considered to be morally wrong, and content they consider whose abolishment is essential to the healthy growth of children. They more or less want to do away with the stuff that was mentioned in my above post. Question of the vagueness of the law causes concern for lighter titles and light fanservice, but TLRD is without question already in the red.

[Random Wanderer]

Ok, after reading that latest chapter (yeah, I'm slow) I have to say it seems this manga is rather consistently heavier on the fanservice than its predecessor. Not saying that TLR didn't hit this level, but it didn't do it in EVERY CHAPTER. Not that it's bad or anything, but there's been enough of it that some of it is actually starting to feel unnecessary.

Or maybe I've just lost the mindset I had when reading the original. But regardless, that bit with Mea... it skates real close to the line of being porn, and I'm not sure which side of that line it's on.

Anyway, I'm still not sure about this shift in focus to the younger (looking?) cast. It's not that I don't like them, because I like them a lot. But I also like the not-so-young characters, especially Lala. I suppose I was really hoping that this manga would just pick up where the other one left off, giving us a view of everyone like it had been. And I already heard all the statements about how Rito and Lala's relationship is in stasis until he can man up, etc. That didn't stop us from being able to have fun with the older kids before. It took Rito 160 chapters to get around to confessing, but there were still plenty of good times with everyone.

Still this looks interesting anyway, even if it's not exactly what I want. Shapeshifter girls need to remember they can transform more than their hair, though. The whole thing about Trans was the ability to change any part of their bodies into a weapon, was it not? Prehensile hair is cool and all, but it's only a fraction of what they can do.

[wingman32x]

I don't think that TLR is in any grave danger.

Plus, the bill is laughably vague, leaving almost everything up to interpretation. There's no "list" of any sort. I see a ton of gray area and room for debate here. It's going to be a headache working all this out IMO.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Still this looks interesting anyway, even if it's not exactly what I want. Shapeshifter girls need to remember they can transform more than their hair, though. The whole thing about Trans was the ability to change any part of their bodies into a weapon, was it not? Prehensile hair is cool and all, but it's only a fraction of what they can do.

If they fight seriously at some point, I'm sure they'll do more than transform their hair. They're only using their hair right now because it's a lot more convenient, and maybe less demanding.

[Kanon]

http://toloverulove.blog121.fc2.com/...ntry-1139.html

Databook coming out in March! We'll finally find out what everyone's breasts sizes are. A To Love-ru databook has to contain that kind of crucial information.

First Darkness tankoubon will also come out the same month.