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With the way Sanji going I doubt he is near Luffy and Zoro. Second I don't think the Vergo vs. Sanji can be seen has a draw. If it were Oda would have left the crack in Sanji's leg out of the fight. Then I would agree with you. Also sorry if this is not what you had in mind. Quote:
Admiral Fujitori got to see first hand what Zoro was capable of at the coliseum. Admiral Fujitori is not just any marine. He is an Admiral. His opinion of Zoro will not be overlooked has easily has lower ranks. Second what do you think Fleet Admiral Akainu will realize if Admiral Fujitori can not subdue the straw hats let alone one pirate hunter? |
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2014-02-24, 16:50 | Link #62 | |
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Also there is the possibility, that Luffy takes down Doflamingo. Zoro's only chance to get a higher bounty than Luffy, would probably be to actually defeat Fujitora, which I doubt will happen, as I'd simply go and say that Fujitora is probably the strongest person on Dressrosa right now.
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2014-02-24, 17:02 | Link #63 |
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Zoro does not need to take an admiral down. Second I don't believe he can. Third all he has to do is hold Admiral off and keep him from interfering in crucial fights and completing his mission. Chapter 682 page 8 proves that Sanji vs. Vergo was never a draw. Last edited by grey_1960; 2014-02-24 at 17:22. Reason: edited wrong box |
2014-02-24, 17:19 | Link #65 | |
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Banging your head against the wall to try and prove that Franky is stronger than Sanji and Zoro will have a higher bounty than Luffy. Oh man. Some people never give up. What jokes.
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2014-02-24, 17:20 | Link #66 | ||
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That is only if you do not realize the significant of this action. Think about it, holding off an admiral and keeping him from doing his job. Rayleigh did that same exact thing in Saboady look what he achieved. You claim he is the strongest one in Dresrosa. That will only make Zoro's reputation even greater if he does it. Quote:
Say what you will but the evidence is getting stronger. If Franky defeats Vice Admiral Bastille then he will have done what Sanji could not have done to Vice Admiral Vergo. |
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2014-02-24, 17:26 | Link #67 | |
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What ?I was merely pointing out that a brief encounter does not tell us anything.
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What Progress did Zoro show ?We have barely seen the guy fighting.He KO'd a boss fishman like all of them,defeated Monet(why am I not surprised she's an officer only ?) and took a beating from Fujitora ?That's some progress alright.Although I'm sure he's a monster,so far we haven't see anything serious. Franky,defeated 3 officers...ok.... My point is : I'm not defending Sanji or bashing anyone else in the crew,I'm just saying that none of them had any serious fights,so it's too early to judge anyone in the crew,so far they have shown flashy moves that look good against fodder. |
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2014-02-24, 17:30 | Link #69 | ||
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Zoro doesn't need somone else name to make him famous. Second I am thinking at least 600 or 700 million Bellie. Luffy's will be 10 million bellies lower then what ever Zoro makes. Quote:
Once Franky beats Vice Admiral Bastille it won't be just Daflamingo's fodder he can add to the list. Has for Sanji's limit Chapter 682 page 8. Zoro's progress can be seen on Chapter 730 8 and 9 where Admiral fujitori complements Zoro's counter attack. |
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2014-02-24, 17:35 | Link #70 |
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No, it doesn't. It proves that Vergo did damage, but you don't win a fight simply because you inflict damage. Both Sanji and Vergo walked away from the battle, well in shape to keep on fighting. It's like Boxer A gets one good hit in on Boxer B during the first of twelve rounds, and then the fight is cancelled due to a fire in the building. Boxer A doesn't win the match simply because he did more damage while the fight lasted. That's not how it works. You might say that his shown performance was better for the duration, but that doesn't make it a win.
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2014-02-24, 17:47 | Link #72 | |
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On chapter 682 page 8 those were Sanji's words not mine. You can create all the scenario or examples you want but it will never cover the facts. Pseudo Argument or Real Argument? I am presenting evidence in my arguments with all of you, right? |
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2014-02-24, 17:56 | Link #73 | |
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You win.I think the Sea King that bit Shanks's hand off is stronger than Shanks because I mean it bit his whole hand off.I think I'm done for today,clearly I'm not in your league. |
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2014-02-24, 18:00 | Link #74 |
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Yes, those are Sanji's words in that chapter, but your words are what I was addressing, because what you said was wrong. The example I gave you is a fitting analogy, not covering, but supporting the facts. It's like you don't know what victory means. What goal did Vergo take away from that fight? None. He didn't take out Tashigi and he didn't take out Sanji. He was just wasting time. If anyone, Sanji would be the victor, because he managed to achieve his goal of saving Tashigi. But since we're leaving her out of the equation, it's a draw.
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2014-02-24, 18:22 | Link #76 | ||
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If you want to pull a whitemoon that fine. But don't be angry at me because of the results of Sanji's fights with Daflamingo and Vergo. Oda is the one doing the writing not me. Second I don't know about Kinemon but I thought Zoro did very well with Admiral Fujitori. Getting a compliment from an admiral is not bad after two years of training and ass kicking from Kizaru. I like you man But you need to get in the thick of the fight instead of riding off other peoples comment. Everybody else is fighting for their own interpretation of the story. You should to if you truly believe my analysis of Franky is not true. Quote:
Those words you just confirmed that are Sanji's words. They were words of doubt not confidence. To me they seemed very negative like something bad would have happened to him if the fight with Vergo was prolonged. Second if that fight had gone on any longer I personally think Sanji would have died along with Tashiga and the marines. With Law being in the SAD room, it drew Vergo away. Which means Sanji was saved by Law twice. Finally I don't hate sanji. I am kinda disappointed with how Sanji(and Smoker) were written. I personally thought Sanji would be like Zoro but that was not to be. I also thought Smoker would be a very high level Vice Admiral (Like in between Buster call Vice admiral and Garp Vice admiral) but to my disappointment that was not true. But I won't turn away from evidence because the results are not what I want. Last edited by grey_1960; 2014-02-24 at 18:36. |
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2014-02-24, 18:41 | Link #77 | |
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Overall,I'm just fooling around,no cruel intentions,I find it funny how you made a conclusive judgment against Sanji from nothing,but pure speculation. |
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(in-universe) Known History of Monkey D. Luffy:
Luffy has beaten 2 Shichibukai (neither known per newspapers, but it affected his bounty at least once), "officially" won against the best CP9 agent in the history of the world who was respected and feard by many vice-admirals, while "officially" declaring war on the WG and forcing the commander of Ennies Lobby to use the Buster Call, which didn't help in capturing the SH crew and instead just caused EL to be reduced to ashes, was "officially" declared to be the direct descendant (son) of the Revolutionary Dragon, is infamous enough to be mentioned by the 5 elders, is one of the mysterious "D", managed to "somehow" infiltrate Imped Down, causing together with "Buggy the Clown" and "Ivankov the revolutionary" a riot that many took advantage off to escape or be freed by others (blackbeard helping the lvl6 prisoners), among the people who escaped, two former Shichibukai were included, then together with many of the escaped prisoners, Luffy helped the Whitebeard pirates to free Ace, while avoiding the 3 Admirals and even getting past his grandfather, the legendary marine Garp! He succeeds in freeing Ace, however both Whitebeard and Ace fall in the end and Luffy gets critically wounded by Admiral Akainu, but still survives and escapes. A few days later Luffy returns to Marineford together with "Jinbei", the former Shichibukai and the 2nd mate of Gold Roger "Dark King Rayleigh" to perform a "burial ceremony" for Luffy's fallen step-brother "Ace the Fire Fist", which at the same time humilated the marines defending it. Then he disappears for 2 years and reappears again in Shabondy, only to disappear again........... Current Bounty: 400 million (in-universe) Known History of Ronoa Zoro: Was known in East Blue as the infamous "Pirate Hunter Zoro", but decides to turn to piracy instead and joins the "Straw Hat Crew". His first major accomplishment that he was recognised for was the "Massacre of Whiskey Peak" and taking down the best Agent of the Shichibukai "Crocodile". His next (probably) known accomplishment was defeating the CP9 Agent Kaku, who was the 2nd strongest member of the current CP9 at that time. He was also assisting Monkey D. Luffy in the assault on Enies Lobby in general, but was not present in the latter attacks of Luffy in Impel Down and Marineford. Zoro was refered to by marines as "Straw Hat Luffy's underling". As with Luffy, Zoro disappeard for 2 years until the Straw Hat Crew resurfaced again in Shabondy Archipelago. Current Bounty: 120 million Ok... and now let us add what you, grey_1960, speculate happens next: Luffy defeats Doflamingo, Luffy's Bounty rises from 400 million to 640 million. Zoro buys a bit time against Fujitora and then manages to escape, Zoro's bounty rises from 120 million to 650 million. You seriously want to say THAT? Not to mention that Law managed to do that already... and he actually even stood his ground against BOTH Fujitora and Doflamingo! Law's new bounty, after having defected from the Shichibukai should be over 1 billion then, according to you!
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