(L) Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate (Love, Election, and Chocolate)

[Reckoner]

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I haven't seen it yet but if what you say is true, it's just as I feared. Once I knew AIC was behind this I knew the production values would be incredibly mediocre. The VN art looks sooooooooo much better.

[Kaoru Chujo]

A good enough start, but I preferred today's other harem show, Kono naka ni Hitori, Imouto ga Iru.

Spoiler for ep1:

The unexpectedly hard opening was interesting. I adored the background in the very first shot. Couldn't help liking the club room, lol. Nakamura Yuuichi good, but not as striking as in Natsuyuki Rendez-vous. OP by Annabel good. ED by Ceui excellent.

I didn't think the animation was that bad. Not the best, but not the worst, either. Just rather ordinary. "Mediocre" might indeed be the best word.

[Candyshark]

Main char has some wierd delusions. Good enough for starting episode. Good they didn't waste time to get flustering moments with girls but rather established plot and some chemistry within club.

Spoiler for healing powers:

Funny how this animu and Naka Imouto has same moments how girl makes the pain go away. This one handled it much better.

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep1:

Typical eroge vs. Typical harem light novel, Start!
*watches both*

Eh well, the eroge was less painful to watch. The character designs aren't that good and I don't sense the aura that came from Mashiro-iro Symphony, but it could get better (not hopeful though). Too typical to comment on though, other than that it was............ typical................. and I wouldn't suggest eating a SD Card.
Also, at the stupid censoring. Blinding light. In the meantime, the light novel used dark matter.

[sapper]

ok just what the fuck was that at the beggining? it looked like a horror anime then turned into happiness? you just cant do that without an explenation wtf?

[Midonin]

Originally Posted by sapper

ok just what the fuck was that at the beggining? it looked like a horror anime then turned into happiness? you just cant do that without an explenation wtf?

They were separated by an opening sequence. That works for me.

[Chaos2Frozen]

As far as Visual Novel Anime Adaptations goes- this certainly counts as one of the more 'intriguing' Introductory Episodes I've seen It's like this mix of tradition, something new, and crazy...


P.S - The characters all sound much different than I had imagined from their design

P.P.S - It's like no guy has woken up on time... Like, EVER.

P.P.P.S - ...Yaoi stick huh...

[ipodi]

Sad to see that Annabel has ventured into the J-Pop genre. Hey, I get it - man gots to eat. But this OP from Annabel is definitely a notch below her previous works.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by sapper

ok just what the fuck was that at the beggining? it looked like a horror anime then turned into happiness? you just cant do that without an explenation wtf?

They hit us in the face with the fact that under the playfulness, there is some serious business going on. The scene in the grandiose council chamber gave the same unpleasant feeling, as did the handouts of money-coupons. And the hospital room scene was striking, too. So that scene at the beginning was not out of place, in my opinion, but important to the whole structure of the show. And it was better that they left it there unexplained, because it gave some force to the story. We are meant to want to keep watching to find out what's going on.

[Master Assassin]

I feel like the only thing that gives me the most impression for this episode is Yume and his... um, Yaoi-sticks.

[novalysis]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

They hit us in the face with the fact that under the playfulness, there is some serious business going on. The scene in the grandiose council chamber gave the same unpleasant feeling, as did the handouts of money-coupons. And the hospital room scene was striking, too. So that scene at the beginning was not out of place, in my opinion, but important to the whole structure of the show. And it was better that they left it there unexplained, because it gave some force to the story. We are meant to want to keep watching to find out what's going on.

It depends on whether the opening scene is indicative of something else, more uniquely interesting going on in the back ground.

Else this would be a typical Harem Adaptation, except with a "generic" competent lead instead of a spineless wish fulfillment moron.

But yes. I'm seeing those political undercurrents, but it remains to be seen how prominent and how boldly would they run with the political aspects of the premise.

Is this Political Commentary disguised as Eroge? If they live up to this premise, as seen in the opening scene, Love, Election and Chocolate might leap above and distinguish itself above the host of other Harem Rom-Com Eroges of the past decade.

Sadly, if I'm going to be pessimistic here, it might be a show of a unique premise, but betrayed by shoddy writing and the inability to break above the inherent limitations of the Harem genre.

P.s: It's the opening scene that made the most impression on me. It looked like something out from a completely different genre altogether.

[RegalStar]

This is something I'll definitely have to withhold judgment on until a few episodes down, I think.

[Haak]

Wow, this show is cruel. First it tricks me into thinking Kanae Itou is in this show, then it forces me to watch a cute girl get brutally run over, and then throws almost every trope off a typical harem first episode, right at me.

And yet I'm somewhat intrigued by the more mysterious and possibly political/activist elements. The yoai stick guy is pretty funny. And the cat girl is just awesome.

I'll also wait until I've watched a few more episodes before deciding whether to keep of watching. Hopefully the animation will improve by then too...

[Shadow5YA]

Ugh, does this episode really have that annoying censoring? If so, I'll have to decline on watching this show until the BDs come out.

[Pocari_Sweat]

Ok... I'm going to be blunt. Although I was not expecting something amazing by any means, I did expect something something that would be somewhat pleasant to watch. Mashiro-iro Symphony taught me that occassionaly an eroge or VN adaptation can be decent to watch, plus Koichoco had some very nice art. But what did we get? Every single harem cliche in the book with the most caveman fanservice... that was also largely censored nonetheless. Another "Buy the Blurays" trick! Yay!

There was one thing I did like though, and that was the Cieu ED song. Guess I'll just grab that when it comes out...

Would I be going over the top if I drop this right now? Because I have a feeling it's not gonna get better... maybe someone else can help me here. First episodes may not always be amazing, but this was just revolting.

[D-KLAC]

oh my look this more to it something mix of all in it from drama, harem, comedy, main guy got same voice as Tomoya Okazaki, sweets, fun, big JUGS, a teacher drink beer with big cup, etc so much.

it also got a conspiracy with hit-run doing adding also rid of evidience memory chip like take a potato chip & EAT IT!!!

yet also chocolate http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs38/f/20...AmazingArt.jpg

hmm stick with it to see what else to expect?

[Cosmic Eagle]

Lol Mieru is voiced by Sakakibara Yui? Nice.

Ceui ED is great as usual.

I think overall this will be my favorite show this season that isn't called Horizon II or Accel World if it keeps going like that. Something good to relax to.

[ookamigirl]

This anime looks very interesting and fun too.
There are a lot of girls, but the guys aren't bad either.
The whole "yaoi stick" chocolate snack thing was ROFL
Looks like chocolate & sweets aren't the only thing that's going on.
Attack incident from the beginning of the episodes looked promising.
Disbanding clubs and the election sure gave them something to be fired up about.
Will give this one a try.

[DragoonKain3]

Woot! Much love for Chisato this episode. But really Chisato, you were straddling him just moments before and you're surprised he has 'woken' up?

It's weird it had a grim start though, as I expected this to be light hearted through and through. And WTF was that play in the middle of the street?

So disappointed though that Chisato's aversion to choco is not from trauma stemming from a previous event with the protagonist, where she made him choco and he said it was terrible (think today in clad 5-2). No, it seems that choco guy is dead, due to her saying "I'm going now" to the picture before seeing the progatonist. Wonder, is it her older brother or something? Can't wait to find out.

And excellent! Satsuki screen time isn't too much... YET. XD


@AmenoJaku

Spoiler for BIG spoilers:

Originally Posted by AmeNoJaku

That list is very fishy, for example the childhood friend in Horizon is

Spoiler for Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon:

a replica or something of the deceased childhood friend

Uhh... P-01s IS Horizon just in another body (did you see the second to the last episode?). I'm lost to everything about the show, but that one I know is for sure.

In Haganai (at least to the point I know) there has been no resolution... same for Ben-tou, IS, Baka Test and a couple more.

I count when they're MAJORLY implying that they are going to get together, even if they haven't got together yet. Haganai/IS has their respective childhood friends be the major focus of their endings, while Bakatest pretty much has Yuuji/Shouko a done deal.

Unless of course, you want me to take out say, Kami-sama Dolls out of the losses, of which majorly implies Kayanon's character officially getting together with the protagonist but isn't quite there yet? I personally don't mind, as I know if I take the ABSOLUTE events (nothing implied) that occured in the anime , the percentage win is roughly the same (30 wins out of 38 = 79%; compared to 27 wins out of 34 = 79% if you take out kamisama from losses, and bakatest/is/haganai from wins)

While we're at it with the ABSOLUTE events that occured in the anime, how about I not count Fortune Arterial because there wasn't even any kiss in the original series? Can I also take out Mashiro-iro Symphony from the loss because they never definitely (or even implied at that) that Sakuno was not related to the progaonist? Can I also take out Kampfer from losses because the anime has no resolution at all?

Because really, cherry picking which anime I considered as implied wins and ignoring the anime I considered as implied losses would be a double standard.

For the record, I counted Ben-tou as draw.

There are also some plain mistakes, for example in Penguin Drum,

Spoiler for Mawaru Penguin Drum:

both MCs die instead of entering a romantic relationship

You're missing Tabuki-Sensei and Yuri, who do get together in the end.

Finally, LOL@AnoHana, since all the damn cast were childhood friends

So what's wrong with that? The question I ask is "Which anime have opposite gender childhood friends get together or are implied to get together? Which anime don't?"

Besides, if you really want to be technical, a non-childhood friend (multiple ones IIRC, though only one gave a letter to Tsuruko to pass it on) was pursuing cross-dresser guy. Sure she was a side-character, but need I remind you many times anime has the childhood friend also a side-character with next to no chance of winning? Believe me, I've got a list.

In games, there are multiple routes, but in anime/manga the usual is that the childhood friend loses, as happens IRL too... but there are exception (Bible Black ,Nana to Kaoru), only to verify the rule.

I have presented evidence that childhood friend wins more often than not in anime. Now it's your turn to somehow turn the 30 wins out of 38 anime into sometihng less than 50% win rate, and your current arguments don't even come close to dipping below 60% much less half.

@Shadow5YA

Spoiler for beware!:

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Eh... your evaluation on some of those series is somewhat inaccurate.

- Ano Hana does not count, considering the entire main cast was made of childhood friends.

Again, if you haven't read what I said to Ame, I'm trying to prove that childhood friends get together more often than they lose. It doesn't matter if the main cast are all childhood friends, because plenty of times in the past I've counted losses for childhood friends when they are obviously side-characters.

- Sora no Otoshimono does not count; the series is inconclusive on the romance front.
....
- Infinite Stratos is the same as Sora no Otoshimono: in the canon, there is no "end couple" yet.
- The same goes for Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai: inconclusive. As far as I know, it's still Yozora vs Sena.

As I said to Ame, if you don't want to count the implied wins, take out the implied losses as well. Because really, stuff like Fortune Arterial and Kami-sama Dolls are 'stains' I'd rather do without because nothing really conclusive happened YET.

- Guilty Crown is more of a loss, because Hare lost against Inori.

There is NO evidence at all of the protagonist knowing Hare before middle school/jr high (the cutoff point for classification of osananajimi). Heck, wiki specifically states that they only met each other in jr high here.

On the other hand, the couple that have indeed been proven to have met when children (Gai and Mana) accepted each other in the last episode, though only at death.

I think the track record of animanga isn't as clear cut as you seem to make it.

I never said it's clear cut. I just said that childhood friends win more often than not in anime, of which I ONLY need to prove they have over 50% win ratio.

Even assuming you made IS/SoraOto/Haganai/AnoHana as draws, and Guilty Crown as loss, it's still 73% win ratio (25 wins out of 34 shows). AND that is assuming I don't take out losses for the same reason you took out the wins.

[uis]

Oh well osana najimi shipper is here... I declare full 100% no Chisato winning this time...

Spoiler for ...:

I am tired with my current record now... I am losing so much even when i support main heroine Sena Airi in Mashiiro Symphony, tragedy of Akasaka repeated...

Seriously i am tired with Chisato hogging everything in VN, Michiru and Satsuki winning for change in anime... Isara winning also acceptable but no Chisato...