[MANGA] Bleach Chapter 420 Discussion

[Calca]

If it turns out

Spoiler:

Aizen's bankai can actually turn back time within individuals

It is going to take a long time for me to stop laughing at the completely pull out of the ass BS I have seen since....well...Aizen's shikai.

[Gin]

^Just to be clear, those spoilers are in no way confirmed and have a very good chance of being fake. (Too much happens in them for just one chapter )

[dragonmeister]

Ahh, it's spoiler time from my favourite comedy manga! What hilarity has Kubo created this week?

[Gin]

Well it seems like some real spoilers are out.

Spoiler for 421:

無月を食らってもまだ再生しようとする愛染
Even though he was hit by Mugetsu Aizen is still alive.
そこで裏腹登場。破道連発のときに放っていた鬼道が発動し始める。愛染の力が弱まったため
Then Urahara arrives on scene. He begins to invoke the kido he used from the time he fired hado in rapid succession against Aizen since Aizen's power has weakened.
徐々に壊れ始める愛染の体
Aizen's body begins to break apart.
愛染、お前ほどの頭脳がありながらなぜあんなものにしたがっている！
Aizen: "Why did someone of your intellect wish to do something like that!"

First one to notice the plot hole gets cookies. (Think back to the beginning of the SS arc)

[Sythychan]

Urahara couldn't enter SS, Considering their still in SS. That's a plothole?

[Marcus H.]

I wonder what Urahara meant when he said this:

Spoiler for spoilers:

Originally Posted by Kisuke Urahara

霊王をみたんすねと裏腹。霊王の存在がなければＳＳは分裂する。霊王は楔で、それを失えば容易 く崩れる。世 界とはそういうものだと裏腹。
"Because I observed the Spirit King. If the Spirit King didn't exist Soul Society would break apart. The Spirit King is the lynchpin, and is he is lost it would easily crumble. That's how the world is," replies Urahara.

[Haak]

Oh fuck i just realised how Ichigo will get his powers back....

Spoiler for future event:

Inoue.

[Frenchie]

It's too bad Ishida couldn't benefit from it, either.

[Wiggy Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Gin

Well it seems like some real spoilers are out.

Spoiler for 421:

無月を食らってもまだ再生しようとする愛染
Even though he was hit by Mugetsu Aizen is still alive.
そこで裏腹登場。破道連発のときに放っていた鬼道が発動し始める。愛染の力が弱まったため
Then Urahara arrives on scene. He begins to invoke the kido he used from the time he fired hado in rapid succession against Aizen since Aizen's power has weakened.
徐々に壊れ始める愛染の体
Aizen's body begins to break apart.
愛染、お前ほどの頭脳がありながらなぜあんなものにしたがっている！
Aizen: "Why did someone of your intellect wish to do something like that!"

First one to notice the plot hole gets cookies. (Think back to the beginning of the SS arc)

okay, i'll bite. how is urahara allowed back in soul society, after when he tried back in the SS arc he was repelled by something?

[sayde]

Originally Posted by Gin

Well it seems like some real spoilers are out.

Spoiler for 421:

無月を食らってもまだ再生しようとする愛染
Even though he was hit by Mugetsu Aizen is still alive.
そこで裏腹登場。破道連発のときに放っていた鬼道が発動し始める。愛染の力が弱まったため
Then Urahara arrives on scene. He begins to invoke the kido he used from the time he fired hado in rapid succession against Aizen since Aizen's power has weakened.
徐々に壊れ始める愛染の体
Aizen's body begins to break apart.
愛染、お前ほどの頭脳がありながらなぜあんなものにしたがっている！
Aizen: "Why did someone of your intellect wish to do something like that!"

First one to notice the plot hole gets cookies. (Think back to the beginning of the SS arc)

Spoiler for chapter 421:

Good one Gin. If it's the plot hole I think you're referring to, it was first introduced back during the 3rd movie IIRC. Of course, at that time, people who didn't want to except any of the plausible explanations behind it probably made peace with it all by assuming said events to have been non-canon anyways. But I guess now we're all forced to face the plot-hole head on. My guess? Yamamoto lifted the ban the moment he decided to seek Urahara's aid in preparation for the winter war. And if this isn't the plot-hole you were referring to, then disregard this post completely.

*edit*
After reading the confirmed spoiler for myself, it's obvious now that Aizen's not going anywhere anytime soon. If Urahara's best plan involves merely sealing him away (as oppose to killing him) then the worst case scenario involves Aizen taking a temporary hiatus from the series. He'll be back, and that makes me happy. Also, is it just me, or was Urahara's talk about the Spirit King making him sound like the next potential antagonist?

[Langus]

Re: Urahara

Spoiler for manga spoiler discussion:

It was Central 46 that made the decision to banish Urahara from SS to begin with. Central 46 was executed by Aizen and assumedly they have not been replaced. Since his expultion, Urahara has come to the aid of SS time and time again. Perhaps this last time he finally negotiated a return for himself before agreeing to save their asses for free. It's not entirely implausible.

[Wiggy Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Langus

Re: Urahara

Spoiler for manga spoiler discussion:

It was Central 46 that made the decision to banish Urahara from SS to begin with. Central 46 was executed by Aizen and assumedly they have not been replaced. Since his expultion, Urahara has come to the aid of SS time and time again. Perhaps this last time he finally negotiated a return for himself before agreeing to save their asses for free. It's not entirely implausible.

^ that might be, but chances are kubo won't explain it.

[haegar]

Spoiler for comment on above spoilers:

Hm. I dunno. Aizen getting sealed would allow this giant plothole to go on without Kubo having to whack his brains what old story to recycle next. Still, I'm all for 2 Pages of Aizen getting hit by Mugetsu, and then the rest of the chapter is his wtf face desintegrating from multiple angles. Leaves us kinda hanging with the plot development, but hey, for the fun of it

[Erenflight]

Originally Posted by secretzfan

Spoiler for potential 421 spoilers...:

But looking at the spoiler it said he resurexted Gin meanning bringing him back to life making this spoiler inaccurate

Spoiler for Response to spoilers:

Actually Resurrection doesn't just mean "bringing back from the dead". It also has the wider meaning of "revival from a state of disuse or inactivity" So technically, waking up in the morning after a long sleep is a 'resurrection'

So Gin could technically have been "resurrected" even though as far as we can tell, he hasn't died yet.
And if the spoilers weren't fake :P

(Sorry, this is a bit behind on the convo, but I thought I'd take the liberty on trying to clear something up)

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by Haak

Oh fuck i just realised how Ichigo will get his powers back....

Spoiler for future event:

Inoue.

Congratulations... 15 pages too late... ^_^

And you don't need to spoiler speculation. Only if it involves other spoiler material.

[Wiggy Fuzz]

i think it was done to create tension

[secretzfan]

Originally Posted by Gin

When did that happen?

Rember he was thinking about Ichigo. Not as much talking, but thinking. If he still has a thought process then he is alive, and by the way you would no he is alive when you saw him being with Rangiku what chapter was that it was revealed around 416 or 417

[Gin]

His last words were, "I can leave and entrust this to you" Those sound like dieing words to me, not a confirmation of life.

[secretzfan]

Originally Posted by Gin

His last words were, "I can leave and entrust this to you" Those sound like dieing words to me, not a confirmation of life.

HUH THAT WASN'T THE PART I AM TALKING ABOUT. When he was saying that it was because he was too weak too fight so he was entrusting Ichgo too fight Aizen not too die. I guess the confirmation that he was alive is slight, but the fact of the matter is that he is still in thought. When Rangiku ran up to him he was still alive that is the point. He was alive then and there is still a chance he is alive now

[Gin]

I'm going to take a page out of sayde's book and just stop trying to explain things to you.