2010-11-13, 11:28 | Link #481 |
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This is indeed one of my favorites as far as character goes, and it is probably Sheryl's most important episode. Was nice seeing Frontier and the explanation of it all makes it very eco-friendly. I'm not sure what Sheryl was meaning when she got serious about doing things "on their own". It's possible this ties in to Sheryl's other important episode, 18, where Grace tells her that Sheryl didn't do it on her own, and perhaps this scene is meant to suggest tying into that episode, a hint that maybe Sheryl has her own doubts that she really did it all on her own, despite what she tells herself.
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2010-11-13, 12:20 | Link #483 | |
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@darkplataform - I haven't seen that image in a while. Do you happen to have anymore at all?
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2010-11-13, 12:25 | Link #484 |
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It's entirely possible she was telling herself otherwise when those nagging doubts came to mind. This area though doesn't get much exposure. I can only really theorize on it right now, and maybe more of the rewatch will cause things to get noticed more, but I really think Grace was a bigger part in Sheryl's life, particularly early on in her career, than we're ever shown. The face heel turn Grace does on Sheryl likely contributed most of the shock in my opinion, but Sheryl does have a stubborn bone to her and episode 18 is just repeated blows landed on her until her stubbornness wears out. That there in this episode may have been some indication that Sheryl had some niggling doubts, enough doubt to believe that maybe Grace was a big part of her rise to stardom, but stubbornly confident as she is she doesn't buy it when Grace tells her that at first. It was largely the fact that she was going to die that broke her down at first, then later when she sees she's been largely forgotten while Ranka rose to stardom, both events coinciding with Grace dumping Sheryl for managing Ranka, I can see how Sheryl's nagging doubts would finally find voice without a confident voice in Sheryl's mind to counter.
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2010-11-13, 12:32 | Link #485 | |
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2010-11-13, 12:33 | Link #486 | |
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*sighs* Felt so sorry for Michel, who had to deal with that petulant kid. Back again later, when I've actually sat down to watch the ep in its entirety...
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2010-11-13, 12:41 | Link #487 | |
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2010-11-13, 16:22 | Link #488 |
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Definitely the most FUN episode of the series, before things start to get serious. I love the wordplay in the title "Star Date" As other people have commented, I also like the way they explain a little about how Frontier works as a system.
I wonder if modelling Island 1 on San Francisco was some kind of expenses fiddle. "Look boss, we need to go over to America and do some picture research to get material. Honest." The closet scene is still funny. Michael nails it on the head when he describes Ranka as being like a spoilt child, but it's his challenge to her - can she sing when nobody is there to see her - which starts her on the path to stardom. The mall sequence is the highlight of the episode. Sheryl's complete delight at playing with the Zentradi goods, the sudden appearance of Klan, when Sheryl seeks something to write on! And of course Ranka's song. I preferred the way this episode did it to the way the movie did it. The movie didn't have Sheryl's meeting with the cow/hippo thing. And then they leave us with a cliffhanger. |
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SHERYL!! chooooooooooooooooou kawaiiiiiiiiiiii!
And this is the only real date between any of the three main characters, right? *sighs and kicks Michel* Unless he avoided her because he didn't want Klan to think he was hitting on a loli? Quote:
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Perhaps the earring is in here? // It's NOT! (This was the one that cracked me up and made me translate this...) You sure it's alright for you to come out like this? // It's fine! (*arrow to cross bandage on Alto's head* <= slipped on a banana peel) How do you (eat) something this spicy! !! Then you have implants too?! // No, I'm a natural Sir, Ma'am! (lit. "Our dear Customers!"), it's dangerous! So please don't hang yourself outside the vehicle! Waaah! There's so much here! Frontier's a wonderful place, isn't it! Was there a scene like this? // Yup ♥ ===== It's just something that I feel is in the original that isn't quite fully conveyed by the translation. Especially when combined with Sheryl's somewhat "put-out" expression.
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2010-11-13, 22:12 | Link #490 |
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Not only did we get time with Alto and Sheryl but we learned a lot about Ranka and the differences between her and Sheryl. In short, Sheryl >> Ranka. Which disappoints me since in the original Macross, both girls were great and not one stood out over the other too much. Here, Sheryl overshadows Ranka so much.
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2010-11-14, 01:37 | Link #491 |
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Now that I’ve caught up with the re-watch… <3
4:15~4:19 – Ranka’s poor cell phone. xD 5:13 – Leon’s chandelier in his office reminds me of a certain space bug. :P I love that both versions of “What ‘Bout My Star” are in this episode. I didn’t pay much attention to it when I first watched this series, but hearing Sheryl’s version is always lovely~ All in all, a fun episode. Sheryl's cuteness definitely increased 100% here, in contrast to Ranka's spoiled behavior. Props to Ranka for singing in public like that, though. It's nerve-wracking enough singing in front of a crowd who's come to see you perform, IMO. I’m definitely looking forward to the next episode~~ <3
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2010-11-14, 01:49 | Link #492 |
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Ahhh~ Episode 5 is where my opinion on Sheryl took a 180 degree turn. X3
And while Alto and Sheryl had cute interactions, I was still a bit doubtful. After all, Sheryl could just be fooling around and such. Oh and Michel hiding from Klan is quite funny.
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2010-11-14, 05:07 | Link #493 | |
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Also i'd just like to say that i could easy watch 25 episodes of Alto and Sheryl interacting with one another. So so cute.
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2010-11-14, 12:50 | Link #495 |
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Oooooookay. Just seen episode 5.
I gotta say that, originally, this wasn't my turning point towards the Sheryl camp - although rewatching it now, I can't, for the life of me, understand why it wasn't. Everything seems to point towards her being the "best" catch. I mean, even going by the OP, Ranka seems way younger than her and Alto (but I still dig her Valkyrie backpack). I don't really remember when, in the series, it was stated that she's the same age as them - I guess it's made obvious later, when she enrolls in Mihoshi Academy and all - but visually, I cannot actually accept it. It feels off, somehow. Sheryl's moods and expressions and faces (see her stating that Alto doesn't treat her like "Sheryl", her moaning in the closet, and all of her cute moments during the date for the variety I mean) are also a big selling point. Also, the closet scene is just too damn funny. Anyway, seeing as I can't really do an unbiased rewatch, I'm gonna say that today, I became a Sheryl fan as soon as the fifth episode of the show - even if originally it did take a little longer (I distinctly remember being peeved at her taking Alto to Gallia IV and leaving Ranka behind) and we'll let bygones be bygones.
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How could she take Ranka to Gallia IV, if Ranka had her concert the very next day?
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2010-11-14, 13:05 | Link #498 |
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From what I remember Alto and Ranka both have birthdays during the series. Ranka's is glossed over. Sheryl is 17 throughout and roughly 1.5 years older than Ranka. That's about the difference between me and my brother and I can pretty well say there was a good sized difference there. They're at an age where every year counts. Side note Alto is about six months younger than Sheryl and nearly a full year older than Ranka.
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