(L) Rosario+Vampire Manga

[ShiroiRyu]

The Kurumu tears is from 39 ?
Or the volume 2 or 3 of the second season ?

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by ShiroiRyu

The Kurumu tears is from 39 ?
Or the volume 2 or 3 of the second season ?

It's a scene from chapter 39. I won't say more about it, unless you want to be spoiled - but on the hand, the chapter has been thoroughly discussed in the earlier pages of this thread, so if you want spoilers you can always look at the earlier pages of this thread

[ShiroiRyu]

I will wait for a english scanlation.
I just saw this pictures ... and because Kurumu is one of my favorite characters, always sincere about her feelings ... ^^

[Tachibana]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Spoiler for 39:

Still, being a human is the only thing that makes Tsukune unique within the main cast, and since one of the themes of the R+V manga is coexistence between humans and ayashi, I don't think that Tsukune is going to lose the remnants of his humanity in the course of the story...

Not to mention that I don't think that we can still classify Tsukune as a human - sure he still has parts of his humanity left - his mentality being the most significant one, since we can't say for certain what parts of Tsukune's body (physically of course) are still similar to a human's body, or if even such parts still exist, since it might be possible that Tsukune's human and vampire natures merged with each other and haven the taken the best elements from both of Tsukune's natures - meaning that physically Tsukune might already be a pretty unique being with a body that is capable of using the abilities of a vampire, while still keeping the immunities to typical vampire weaknesses that Tsukune has from the fact that he was originally human - well, maybe Tohou Fuhai's examination is going to say something more about that...

Simply saying at the current point, it's hard to classify if Tsukune is still a human or not, since at the current point he has elements of both being a human and at the same time he has elements that classify Tsukune as a vampire, and in my opinion that won't change, even if the remnants of Tsukune's humanity drag him down - which, as a matter of fact I don't agree with, after all both Moka's don't seem to mind the fact that Tsukune was originally a human and now is a hybrid between a human and a Shinso vampire, and well if the rest of Moka's family is going to have a different opinion about that - well they could try to talk to Inner Moka about it, but I doubt it is going to be a pleasant talk

Spoiler for 39:

Yeah, Tsukune being originally human, is the important role for the coexistence between humans and ayashi and the R+V storyline, i agree with you there.

I also agree that, Tsukune wouldn't be classified as a human anymore since he has already succumbed to ghoulification back in season I. At best the only human parts of him that would remain would be his original human lineage, his human immunities and his human mentality.
But his physical human body will eventually be absorbed by his Shinso blood in the future if it hasn't already by the ghoulification process.

I did some rethinking and i have to agree that. No his humanity didn't drag him down, both Ura and Omote have the same feelings for Tsukune, but show it in different ways and they have the same desire and want to protect him, they also love him even though they haven't admitted it yet. I also have to say that even though he was orginally human, the Shinso blood alone was enough to make him into an S-Class apparition, he should not be underestimated, because everyone who has so far have been defeated by him.

Tsukune being a Human/Shinso is appropriate, i guess you could refer to him as a human inside a demon's body.

Except Ura-Moka, shes going to be the dominate one in the relationship above Omote-Moka, because Ura-Moka with all her pride as a vampire has accepted Tsukune even though he was human and like you say i doubt the opinion of her family (Shuzen family) would matter to both Mokas especially Ura-Moka, because Tsukune is her property which means, NO TOUCHY!!!

[Chris38]

@Shinso Tsukune

Spoiler for 39:

Well, I don't think that Tsukune's body will be completely absorbed by his Shinso blood, simply because if that happened then Tsukune probably wouldn't be able to survive that - after all, considering the pain that Tsukune has went through when his bodies abnormalities have started to appear for the first time it's not something pleasant to go through - but considering the fact that Tsukune's pains seemed ti disappeared after he went through Ghoulification, I believe that the human and vampire elements within Tsukune's body have reached a state of balance, which for the most part won't change, unless there is some integration from the outside world - like for example Tohou Fuhai's human body modification technique...

Of course, I could be wrong about this, but I don't think that Tsukune would be able to survive completely if his physical body has been made completely different from his original human body - not to mention that his immunity to vampire weaknesses has to come from somewhere from within his body, which means that there are still some differences between Tsukune's body and the body of a vampire... and I don't think that Tohou Fuhai's ritual is going to be able to change that difference...

Regarding Tsukune's relationship with Moka, well I believe that Akasha would certainly approve the choice that Moka has made on her destined partner, I also agree that Inner Moka is going to have a dominant role in her relationship with Tsukune, although if we take the events of chapter 23 into consideration, she starts to listen to Tsukune (if she's in a good mood, of course), since before she would just beat Fong Fong up, for saying that she's Tsukune's "legal wife", rather then asking Tsukune if she can shut him up, so I don't think she's going to be as dominant in her relationship with Tsukune as you think Shinso Tsukune, provided that Tsukune is going to be able to take care of her urges of course

[Tachibana]

Spoiler for 39:

Kurumu also pushed one of Moka's buttons saying that "Ura-Moka is the only to be Tsukune's wife", which caused Ura-Moka to blush and she was fidgeting.

Yeah, Akasha definitely would approve of Tsukune being Moka's destined one. Perhaps she would be able to help Tsukune out that will allow him to take care of those urges that Ura-Moka has, but Tsukune definitely will have all the power and most importantly stamina he needs to take care of both Ura-Moka and Omote-Moka.

However, the thought of Ura-Moka being the dominate one in the relationship, is just great!

Fanfan was right about Ura-Moka being Tsukune's legal wife, she will be in the future.

[Tachibana]

Another topic, to be honest as i said before i'm not entirely convinced that Akua is out to destroy the world, which was her original goal.

Do yall think that both Omote-Moka and Ura-Moka now as Akua's "hostage" will try to convince her not to do such things if she is?

And another thing, do yall also think that Hokuto and Kiria got it wrong believing that the Fairy Tale HQ needs Moka's strength to achieve their goals, when in reality, it was out of Akasha's promise and Akua's free will that Moka was "captured" by Fairy Tale, misleading them to believe this?

These are my thoughts, what are yalls?

[Cebi]

@Shinso Tsukune

I think that Akua is stil thinking about conquering the world. Altough, after all, only Shinso to who she has close is Moka. So a little time pass before Akua gain enough great power to achieve her goal. Unless she will choose to break promise with Akasha. And then Tsukune will be wait.

Omote’s and Akua’s conversation can be very interesting and requesting a lot to the plot. By the way I’m curious how Omote will be treated in HQ.
I cannot imagine that the Ura-Moka tries to influence Akua’s plans in a manner different than the "Know your place". Besides she’s sleeping now sealed in the rosary and will not return too soon.

Hokuto and Kiria are too smart and crafty to be able make mistake in such an important issue. Even if Akua is currently progressing only for a promise we can’t forget that Fairy Tale’s HQ isn’t just Shuzen family under her command.

And besides, is it really so weird that everyone wants Ura-Moka?

[Tachibana]

Akua wouldn't break Akasha's promise, Touhou Fuhai knows this and she has kept it for seven years.

Akua has also known that Moka went to the Youkai academy, so she knew where her sister was all this time, if Akua was still after the Shinso blood she would have gone after it already.

The reason way Akua waited for Ura-Moka's Rosary to break was to keep the promise with Akasha, now the Rosary is fixed the promise is now "on hold". Because i think according to Akua's logic. Ura-Moka (real Moka) is the one she must protect, not Omote-Moka, and now that the Rosary is fixed she cannot keep the promise and look after Ura-Moka, now that Omote-Moka has resumed her status as the dominate personality, which in reality it doesn't matter to which one she protects, they will both be safe, even in Akua's hands.

As for Omote-Moka being treated at Fairy Tale. the last guy who "touched" Ura-Moka, Akua threated to "slice that person's head off", and her family (Shuzen family) will be there, so even in enemy hands, both Ura and Omote will be safe.

Besides according to Akua and Akasha, by obtaining the Shinso blood the individual dies. This is something Akua would never do to Moka, even if she has her ruthless nature, which means the Shinso blood isn't her goal anymore.

Akua has neither Fairy Tale nor the Shuzen family under her command, Issa is still the current head of the family and Fairy Tale has an unknown leader figure.

Either way i'm still not entirely convinced that world domination is still Akua's goal, it's as if something is "off" about her regarding on what her actual goal is...

As for Hokuto and Kiria, you might be right about that, but weather or not they know about Moka's Shinso blood is a mystery. They might want to use her after their encounter with her in season I, the only way they would actually find out about her Shinso blood would be from the Shuzen family or Akua, to which i doubt they tell them out in the open, unless those two did some sneaking about Moka...

If this were to be true, about them not knowing about Moka's Shinso blood that is, than Hokuto and Kiria might be getting themselves into more than what they bargained for.....

[Chris38]

@Shinso Tsukune

Well, in my opinion at the current point, it's hard to say what Akua wants to achieve, I mean that, while she says that she wants to fulfill the promise that she made with Akasha, taking Inner Moka to an organization that wants to use Moka's powers to destroy the human world, definitively isn't something that Akasha would want her daughter to take part in.

Still, I agree with you that Akua wouldn't harm Moka, but I don't think that I could agree with you're statement that taking the blood of a Shinso causes the individual to die, since both Moka's and Tsukune's cases speak against that - but the reason for that might be because both Akasha and Moka have willingly given their blood to save someone's life.

Regarding the Shuzen family, at the current point it's hard to say what is the current situation within Moka's family, so currently I don't think that you can say anything on that topic besides speculations...

Regarding Hokuto and Kiria, while I agree that it's a mystery if they know about the fact that Moka is a Shinso, but considering the abilities that Hokuto displayed in chapter 38, I think they know what kind of youkai Alucard is, and might be suspecting that Moka is also a Shinso vampire, based upon their encounter with her in the first season, although I don't think that they suspect that Tsukune is possessing the same blood as well, despite the fact that they probably realize that Moka is the one who has injected Tsukune with her blood...

[Tachibana]

Either way taking the Shinso blood, even from Moka would require harming her which that is something Akua isn't willing to do, and besides it's as ive said for the past 7 years Akua has known that Moka went to the Youkai Academy. Akua could have gone after Moka for her Shinso blood but she didn't, but the only reason why Akua went after Moka now, was because her seal broke and because it has, Akua can fufill the promise with Akasha or so she thought.

Since the Shinso blood isn't her goal anymore, whatever Akua has in mind, Tsukune will stop her.

But i think Hokuto and Kiria got the impression for Fairy Tale HQ needing Moka's power, when in reality, it was Akua's free will and Akasha's promise that Moka is with them and that those two are the only ones who need her power, i'll stick to this for now.

As for Hokuto's abilities we can't really say for sure if it's from Alucard at all. Ikeda did a lot of art improvements way back from season I, he probably wanted to redraw Hokuto's tentacles that match Alucard's. However, even if those two did discover Alucard there is no possible chance that they could have connected Alucard to Moka.

However, they could have connected the Shuzen family to Moka since thats her family and since the Shuzen family are the ones who watch over Alucard than thats probably how Hokuto and Kiria might of connected the two, but for now this is a complete unknown.

Now that Moka's Rosary is fixed and that Tsukune has the Shinso blood, this will basically foil Hokuto's and Kiria's plans, if they "have" learned of Moka's mothers's Shinso blood thats within her body.

Another thing, i think it would great to see Tsukune get a battle attire other than his school uniform, i hope he gets one after Touhou Fuhai's training.

[Chris38]

Well, I didn't mean that Akua is still after Moka's Shinso blood, since if she was just after that, she could appear in youkai Academy where Moka has been staying and not wait 6 years, before appearing before Moka.... it's just that I don't think that taking Moka to a organization that according to what we know at the current moment need Moka's powers to achieve their objective of destroying the human world is something that Akasha would want - why else would she configure the Rosario so that only someone who doesn't mean Moka any harm (more specifically Moka's destined person) would be capable of removing it, and according to what we know about Akua I don't think that she is capable of removing the Rosario...

Still, I don't think that Akua's objective will be revealed, until we get to her fight with Tsukune, and currently, I think it's still going to take some time (in my opinion about 2 to 3 chapters), before we get to that part of the story....

Although, in my opinion, none of Akua's plans have considered the possibility that Moka is going to give her blood to someone else, which is a real miscalculation on her part and I can't wait to see how she is going to react, once the fact that Moka has shared her blood with Tsukune is going to be revealed...

Regarding Hokuto and Kiria, well considering the fact that they openly admitted that they are members of Fairy Tale I think that they know something about Alucard and how important Moka is, although I have to agree with you Shinso Tsukune that what Hokuto and Kiria really know and what is their real objective haven't been revealed yet, and like in the first season, I think that we will be kept in the dark on this, until Hokuto and Kiria are ready to put their plans into motion....

[Tachibana]

If anything, Akua would reveal her plans to Omote-Moka before she fights Tsukune or like you say before her fight with him.

But whatever Akua's plans, Tsukune with Omote-Moka's help will stop her and try to get her to join their side.

I doubt Tsukune and Omote-Moka would want anything truly bad to happen to Akua, even if she is one of the antagonists.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Shinso Tsukune

If anything, Akua would reveal her plans to Omote-Moka before she fights Tsukune or like you say before her fight with him.

But whatever Akua's plans, Tsukune with Omote-Moka's help will stop her and try to get her to join their side.

I doubt Tsukune and Omote-Moka would want anything truly bad to happen to Akua, even if she is one of the antagonists.

I agree that Tsukune and Outer Moka wouldn't want anything bad to happen to Akua, but in my opinion, that won't prevent Tsukune from beating her up, and honestly speaking Akua's fate is in the hands of Ikeda and currently I don't think we can say anything about it, besides speculations...

Spoiler for 39:

Still, I believe that the first thing that both Moka's are going to be interested in, is the progress that Tsukune has made during the time when they had been separated from each other.

After all, while we still haven't got ant specifics on the ritual that Tohou Fuhai is going to preform on Tsukune and how much of an impact it's going to have on Tsukune's vampire abilities - it's still going to be some upgrade compared to the level that Tsukune currently has... - I mean that both Moka's, who in my opinion are going to be somehow spectators to Tsukune's fight with Akua, are probably going to be shocked by Tsukune's ability to use ayashi arts, and their shock is probably going to be compounded if they see Tsukune removing his Holy Lock and still managing to retain his sanity (Of course, only if Tohou Fuhai's ritual is going to allow Tsukune to that, which I believe has a very high chance of occurring), since after all both Moka's know how important Tsukune's Holy Lock is, and I can't wait to see how they are going to react once they see Tsukune consciously removing it...

[Tachibana]

Originally Posted by Chris38

I agree that Tsukune and Outer Moka wouldn't want anything bad to happen to Akua, but in my opinion, that won't prevent Tsukune from beating her up, and honestly speaking Akua's fate is in the hands of Ikeda and currently I don't think we can say anything about it, besides speculations...

I agree, not only is her fate in Ikeda's hands, but more importantly in Tsukune's hands as well...

Spoiler for 39:

I can imagine Touhou Fuhai telling Tsukune something like "Ok kid, your human body sucks, time for me to give you a body that kicks lots of ass". These days seem to be going by very fast itle only be 2 weeks and a few days before we see raws for 40.

[Tsuyoshi]

Sorry for the stupid question but does anyone know if the translations for 39 are out?

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Tsuyoshi

Sorry for the stupid question but does anyone know if the translations for 39 are out?

Unfortunately ... no they haven't appeared yet, but if we compare the current date with the times when the previous chapters where translated I think they should appear soon...

@Shinso Tsukune

Spoiler for 39:

Well, like I said in our discussion on this topic earlier, I don't think that Tsukune is going to lose the physical remnants of his human body ...

After all, based on what we know so far, apart from Kahula (who has the ability to transform her body) and Alucard the difrence between vampires in the R+V series and humans isn't that great - it's just that vampires occasionally need to suck blood, have a higher metabolism then humans do - which is probably the root of their regenerative abilities and have a lot more physical strength then a human...

Of course the difference between a human and a Shinso vampire might be a lot greater then that, but for now, since we don't know a lot about the capabilities of a Shinso vampire it's probably best to not discuss that yet, but based upon what we know I don't think that Tsukune's body needs to be changed much for him to be capable of using his vampire power's - and the restriction on his power's is placed because of a mental problem rather then a physical one...

Simply saying the reason why Tsukune isn't capable of using the full extent of his vampire abilities is because the nature of a vampire (which Tsukune seemed to acquire along with his vampire abilities) isn't compatible with Tsukune's human nature, which for now Tsukune is able to maintain thanks to the power of his Holy Lock and while Tohou Fuhai's technique might help Tsukune in overcoming this problem it's up to Ikeda to decide how that is going to happen, since at the current point we don't have enough information to deduce how Tohou Fuhai's ritual is going to help Tsukune in becoming stronger, besides allowing him to use ayashi arts, which naturally might not be enough for Tsukune to be capable of defeating Akua, but that is only my speculation based upon what we know about Tsukune's abilities so far, which might already not be an actual representation of Tsukune's current strength, if we consider the fact that we haven't seen Tsukune fight against someone for a long time...

[Tachibana]

Spoiler for 39:

Well, Touhou knows how strong Akua is and how strong he will have to make Tsukune in order for him to fight, that much we know for certain, i don't think we will have to worry to much about the upcoming fight between Akua and Tsukune.

Tsukune needs two things that will allow him to be able to fight Akua on equal terms.

Tsukune needs his Shinso power and Youjutsu.

Touhou Fuhai will be giving him the Youjutsu with the ritual. But as for his Shinso power, as we all know, he cannot use these powers for a long period of time, so hopefully Touhou will know how to fix this.

But, i do agree with you that it's up to Ikeda to decide, on whats going to happen regarding Tsukune to overcome the problem with controlling his powers and the Holy Lock, one of the many things i'm interested in seeing.

[kenjiharima]

From:

http://blog.funimation.com/2010/11/c...rom-anime-usa/

Rosario + Vampire / Rosario + Vampire CAPU2
Character Cast

Moka -Alexis Tipton

Tsukune - Todd Haberkorn

Kurumu - Brina Palencia

Yukari - Monica Rial

Mizore - Tia Ballard

The Bat -Jerry Jewell

ADR Director - Jason Grundy

Rosario + Vampire
Available on DVD Spring 2011 featuring:

* Art box
* Art booklet (subject to change)
* Contains episodes 1-13

Rosario + Vampire – CAPU2
Available on DVD Spring 2011 featuring:

* Contains episodes 14-26

EDIT:

Akuha fan art



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[Tachibana]

Spring huh?, cool can't wait. But id still watch it in japanese audio.

Pretty Akua fanart, but i'm really praying for her... even if she is one of the antagonists.