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The World of Bleach has been built and developed. Hueco Mundo and especially the fake Karakura Town where the other battle is taking place. There has been loads of character developments in Bleach we got plenty of character developments in the Vice-captain battles vs the Espada's fraccion..Even the Fraccion got development. We also got development on Ulqui and Yammy these past chapters. I lol'd at your last comment no story progression? No my friend, that right now is One Piece's department [Dragging in this boring Disney land of a prison], In Bleach each battle is fought for the sake of story progression...TO STOP AIZEN, each Espada that is defeated is plot progression whether you like it or not. Quote:
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2009-04-17, 22:44 | Link #342 |
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It isn't simple at all. It feels like it is being written by a 10-year-old who can't keep track of all the complicated rules and powers he made up. Being too complicated is actually a major problem for Bleach. For example there are way too many rules that don't seem consistent about when and where characters can "power up" to certain levels. |
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2009-04-17, 23:18 | Link #344 |
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Here's a question that I am curious to know everyone's answer to.
In terms of the art style between One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach, which art style do you like best? For me, it's One Piece hands down, followed by Naruto and then Bleach. As I've said before, Oda's designs are very eccentric (one can argue against this with his female designs though ) and because of that all of his characters really stand out and are differentiated very well from one another. If you were to shave everyone's head bald in One Piece, you would be able to tell who's who; whereas for Naruto and Bleach on the other hand, there will definitely be some confusion discerning who's who since a lot of the designs are very generic and similar to one another (a lot of characters have almost the exact same face).
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2009-04-17, 23:39 | Link #347 | |
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Kubo is very good at using sleek designs, with a good use of angles to accentuate character's faces and hair. I do prefer Kubo's male character designs, though, since I feel that too much attention is placed on a female character's breasts in Bleach. Kishimoto generally has a good eye for small details. Facial distinctions (in battles), slight movements, heights, and a wonderful use of sound effects etc, and other minute details are quite apparent in all of his character designs (even if the basic facial or hairline structure is quite similar between multiple characters). But, his clothing ensemble is awful, sometimes Kishimoto will even lose track of the basic designs of his clothing (especially inseams and clothing that covers the arm). (That is not to say that Bleach or One Piece are better, Bleach's clothing, while chic, are too common and eventually they become boring; and One Piece's clothing is seen as largly irrelevent, so not much focus is applied.) Oda is great at creating wonderfully unique characters, and he really likes to give odd looking characters quite interesting powers, which adds to their designs. Oda is fairly bad at drawing different scales, though, with character's switching sizes sometimes mid-chapter (part of this is due to the fact that Oda loves to use interactions between characters in the foreground and background at the same time (he uses this quite a bit during his comedic segments were a lot of characters are interacting together, especially on the ships). So, in terms of basic characters designs, Bleach looks better, One Piece is more interesting, and Naruto has a great eye for details. For setting design, though, One Piece wins hands down. Bleach's settings are static, sleek, yet ultimately boring in their simplicity (admittedly, there have only been three distinct settings in the series, so far). Naruto, again, has a great eye for detail, creating a "lived-in" world with clutter and phone lings, and other small details. And One Piece has a beautiful chaos of constantly unique and interesting settings each mixed with unique types of characters. Oda really goes out of his way to create some truly cool as well as beautiful locations. Last edited by james0246; 2009-04-17 at 23:54. |
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I had a feeling you would like Oda's art the best.
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For me, Bleach's art is just very boring and dull. What's sad is the fact that so many people like it just because of the "art". A lot of people tend to think the characters look "badass" and for them that takes precedence over anything else. One Piece is generally not very appealing to these kinds of fans since a lot of its characters look wacky and abnormal. Quote:
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2009-04-18, 00:07 | Link #349 |
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The "Lift the Limit" storyline felt really fake to me. Vice Captains almost die using power limiters to stay at 20% power. To avoid creating ripples. Meanwhile we watch the fight thinking it may be a real contest.
Then they go full power anyway and immediately win. Why wait so long other than stretching the chapters? If Vice Captains are supposed to stay at 20%, why wasn't Ichigo given a major power limiting device as well? Another inconsistentcy... Hitsugaya at 20% >>>> VC at 20%... doesn't make sense to restrict the VC so much. Spoiler for recent Bleach:
Anyway, I probably shouldn't have brought this up here. In my defense, I kind of meant it as a joke (I had just said it was stupid to compare One Piece and Naruto, and then I compared them to Bleach. It was supposed to be a joke because it was so obviously hypocritical). Last edited by Ermes Marana; 2009-04-18 at 00:26. |
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and yes Hitsugaya Toushirou will crush his current opponent! and its not because of the fans but for Hitsugaya is that bad. Last edited by Master Mold; 2009-04-18 at 00:45. |
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Yeah, this is probably the main reason I would put One Piece first, then Naruto, then Bleach. Just the locations in One Piece are enough to fire up the imagination. And I like the overall eccentric style. But again... different styles for different stories. One Piece's art style would not work well with the story of Naruto or Bleach. Each of them has good art that complements their story. |
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I get it that Sasuke had to face Itachi at some point but making all 15 years old stonger than all prevois shinobies is... SasukexItachi felt like fanservice for me, but I accepted it, but then we've got a whole arc of Sasuke going with his new team and showing that he can beat somoene at nearly Kyuubi level just so some girls can wet their pants. Naruto took the whole Jounin level that Kakashi vs Zabuza and Kage level that's Orochimaru vs 3rd Hokage, and stomped on them by Making Naruto and his friends so strong that I don't know that if Yondaime would win against them. Orochimaru lost to 4tails, and Pain goes against 8tails now? In OP we have Whitebeard, Aokiji and Mihawk that are the highest level, and we see Strawhat lose just to remind us that they aren't at that level yet. Quote:
Hitsugaya mopps because he's that weak, it's annoying becuase he even says it himself and some people don't notice.
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Um, let's stop right there before this gets out of hand, and remind yourselves that this is One Piece - Chapter 539 thread, not Which is better OP, Bleach, or Naruto thread.
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2009-04-18, 15:45 | Link #355 |
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the hole bleach thing was a bit off topic no?
anyway,what do u guys think will be one piece next saga? luffy looks for kuma in order to get all of his crew members back,sence kuma is the only one that knows where they are.... and who do u think will join the straw hats?bon clay is a good addition to the team dont u think? |
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Well Luffy and all of his crew have biblio card pieces that will lead them to Rayleigh, so I assume that will be the first order of business. He even mentioned it back at the Amazon Lily chapters, he needed a ship so he could go back to Sabaody.
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What I'm curious about is how much time within OP has actually passed since the Kuma battle?
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whoever joins cant be stronger then any of them three really, it would upset the balance edit, Bon Clay would be very good at gathering information or spying with his ability, and he can teach people to dance, job role sorted
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For a small off-topicness, I prefer bleach art to the other two, but KT's plot is getting on my nerves big time. Naruto is average on everything and OP has a great plot and fairly good art (at least for me).
Back to the notorious WB war, I think that WB will die of illness or that he would have planned to die in the hands of the government, much like Roger did before him. The possibility of a 10th crew member, while it is there, it shouldn't be so soon after Brooke joined-he still hasn't had a unique battle or a separate arc (although his bone jokes are more than enough...), compared to others. Quote:
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Additionally, the next (final) member of the crew will probably be someone that has knowledge of the New World. Right now, the Strawhat crew is flying blind when it comes to the Nw World, and if they should hope to succeed there, then they need a native guide to help them (a native like Vivi or Robin, who hold a great deal of knowledge concerning the world of the Grand Line). Right now, besides Ace, there is really no one that the Strawhats are on friendly terms with that can help them in the New World, so they need to find someone either before they enter, or right after they enter. |
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