2012-05-03, 21:31 | Link #741 | |
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And remember, as of A's, Fate is now a Bureau Probationary Mage, and was sent in by Lindy along with Yuuno to find Nanoha. Even if they toss Yuuno out of this movie, we'd still need a reason why Lindy wouldn't change sending Fate to Nanoha. |
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2012-05-03, 21:55 | Link #742 |
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Lindy does send Fate to Nanoha. It's just not a..."Oh no, barrier enveloped Nanohas house you better go dive into it, Fate!" After all, she is there to save Nanoha. Only a handful of minutes delayed.
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2012-05-03, 23:59 | Link #743 |
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It can take one minute for someone to say. "Damn this barrier is incredibly strong...it's gonna take a while to bypass."
Though honestly, there's really no need to rationalize this part. There's many reasons why they can have a delay and trying too hard to justify it would be too hard. I mean even if the movie starts with Nanoha discovering and engaging Vita and getting help later, the narrative of the story isn't going to change much. No need to overthink. It's not like it's the first time the TSAB has messed up. It's fairly trivial to place episode 1's events in 10 minutes and have a good fight scene in there, me thinks. Also, Keroko brings up the interesting point about Nanoha's role has never been that central. This makes it a natural winner to make whatever movie coming after this, whether it be StrikerS based or something completely new to be Nanoha-centric.
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You're really making a big deal out of a small, easily worked around problem here. |
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2012-05-04, 04:46 | Link #746 |
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Somehow I have a feeling they will find a way to shaft Hayate (again) and focus on more Fate story
Though I think the dream sequence could be shortened a bit, and that the fights themselves could be rearranged fairly easily while still keeping the overall plot the same. It could be Fate vs. Signum, Vita + Shamal vs. Chrono and Lindy. But I doubt they will give Lindy combat time, she seems like a support type and with how pressed for time the movie seems to be, I don't think showing off her combat ability will be a wise use of movie time. /tin foil hat EDIT: As far as I know (I haven't watched all the previews yet), there's nothing that concretely states that the reuinion scene in the movie is actually a current reunion scene. It could be a flashback or one that happened a while back. Trailers are tricky things >:[ |
2012-05-04, 05:10 | Link #749 |
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I think the dream sequence was important in the series for Fate to feel like her own person. She'd been getting used to living her own life, instead just doing what others wanted of her, but she wasn't quite ready to make the final leap and join the Harlaown family. the dream sequence allows her to make that decision. If they cut it out in the movie, and I have a feeling they will, they'll just have her come to that decision in a different way.
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2012-05-04, 05:20 | Link #750 |
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The sequence was more fanservice than it was actual development. A glimpse in the "what if Fate was an actual part of the Testarossa family." It added nothing to Fate that the season itself hadn't told us beyond a final goodbye to her family, and ate up almost an entire episode.
I'd have rather the sequence had gone to Hayate (who, mind you, was in a similar dream subspace) and explain some of her backstory. You know, stuff actually relevant to the season. |
2012-05-04, 05:34 | Link #751 |
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It was their for the purpose of giving her the last push she needed to see herself as an individual and deciding what she wanted out of her life. It was part of her sub-plot throughout season 2. Yes, it would have been good to see Hayate's dream sequence. However, they've she'll will be involved in the incident much more this time around, and Kana Ueda even said she had many speaking lines, so I'm not worried about her being shafted in the movie.
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2012-05-04, 05:56 | Link #754 | |
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2012-05-04, 05:58 | Link #755 |
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No, and you're relatively new here if I recall. As for some others, they've been repeating the same process for a couple years now. And yeah, I definitely agree with you. It's the same reason I think the scene was important. But some people have the herpderp mentality that it's just fanservice for Fate fans. Alas, I don't see how character development could ever be considered fan service, regardless of the reactions of the fans in question.
@Ditto: she/he was referring to the dream eater sequence in A's.
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2012-05-04, 06:10 | Link #758 | |
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It also disrupted the flow of A's, which had been far more about Hayate in general and the battle arc specifically was all about Hayate, her going berserk and how to stop the book and save her. Then suddenly "here, have an episode devoted to the Fate subplot." Meanwhile, Hayate's past and motivations were left more vague in the anime, and the later had to be answered by the manga. Had the dream sequence been about Hayate, it would have fit in the theme of the series, the battle and enhanced Hayate's character and motivations. |
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2012-05-04, 06:19 | Link #759 | |
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Perhaps, but I keep to myself until pandoras box gets opened once more.
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If I were to be unbiased, I'd say it's likely to get removed due to time constraints of the movie, since I'm sure they will only have time for a single focal point with such short time. But I still think it was one of the most well done scenes in A's.
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2012-05-04, 06:26 | Link #760 |
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I agree we should have had a dream sequence for Hayate, but I don't think Fate's dream sequence took anything from her development at all. She made the choice to stick the life she had now and move forward completely. Fate had anxieties about the past, including questioning whether or not she was actually human. Her dream sequence showed what she most wanted, but through her time on the Asura and with others in her life, she realized she wanted the imperfect, yet wonderful life with people who cared about her.
She'll still have worries in the movie, but I'm sure they'll play differently. And Hayate will be getting plenty of screen time. The review of the seiyuu have confirmed that. Last edited by Elle_White; 2012-05-06 at 02:38. |
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