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2011-07-08, 04:24 | Link #22 | |
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2011-07-08, 12:44 | Link #23 | |
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Is it just me? Or is there very little interest in these recent Naruto chapters? Naruto being the savior and the Kage fights just don't seem to have any juice. Is the war boring folks?
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They should be there 3-8 chapters from now and will come at the end in typical shonen manner to save them.
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2011-07-08, 13:50 | Link #24 |
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In my opinion, the war has been pretty boring indeed. I had hoped to see some of the best rookies show their skills and how they've grown since part I, but we were instead shown a pretty lackluster fight between some cloud nin we just met, and what seems to be a badly contrived super villain duo. Chouji's fight was lackluster as well, considering there was not much real strategy involved, just him whining the entire chapter until he finally manned up in the end.
While there are many complaints about brining the dead back, I really didn't mind much, because I still believe it could have been well written, but I don't like how it turned out --especially the way some of these epic villains are being defeated. For instance I thought Sasori's death (the suicide) was arguably the best in the story. But he was brought back, for that?? I guess it can be argued that he was redeemed this way, but he also seemed at peace the first time, as if he knew he made the wrong choices and did what he did. It almost ruins the moment for me. ( I did like the Hanzo fight though; even though it was felt a bit brief ) I also don't like how the entire town is made to seem weak just for Naruto to do everything himself. It is really annoying to read, and just seems corny. Even the guy who just trained Naruto with his vast experience, already seems to be pigeon-holed into some side-kick type of character for him. I think they could have also brought Naruto into the war much better than they did. I was expecting to see a well written, technical fight, comparable to Sakura and Chiyo vs. Sasori, but with characters like Shikamaru, Neji, and Shino; this war was a nice place to give Naruto and Sasuke a break and show some epic fights with the other rookies, but oh well. I just hope Itachi and Nagato will be put to much better use than what we've seen so far. |
2011-07-08, 14:12 | Link #25 | |
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Agreed. More than that, I feel Kishimoto misused the technique by introducing new "villains" that had no previous history. Bringing back the Akatsuki, even possibly the Jinchuuriki (I'm on the fence concerning the issue), would have been okay (it could have been more interesting for Madara to use the armies of the smaller villages as his attack force, but that would have still required new characters, so the zombies, as a means to an end, are more than servicable), but to bring back another dozen or so additional zombies, many of which have no bearing on anything, was a tragic misstep that simply bogged down the story (which already had too many character) with even more characters (many of which are fairly uninteresting). |
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2011-07-08, 17:13 | Link #26 | |
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2011-07-08, 18:53 | Link #28 | |
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As for Naruto, I'm pretty sure people have been getting irritated with the Messiah Complex that he'd been working towards for a while now. Since he's finally embraced it himself, while also contradicting information stated in previous and recent chapters, it's just boring. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't enjoy seeing the main character one-shotting all the bad guys that everyone else is struggling to fight. |
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2011-07-08, 20:19 | Link #30 |
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Kishimoto introduced us to such a rich world in the first part of the manga, consisting of many different characters, each with their own unique struggles. But then he resolved those problems much too quickly, forgot to develop other characters and began writing a completely different story, that has almost nothing to do with the first part of the manga. He's ignoring countless possibilities this huge world has to offer. The current story would work with just Konoha, Naruto and a handful of other characters. It would even work better that way, because there wouldn't be other loose story strings getting in the way of what really matters. But instead, there are other villages, characters and even techniques completely forgotten by the plot.
You can either create a huge world and make use of it (One Piece), or you rely on a more limited set of elements and create a deep experience by intensively focusing on those elements (Fate/Stay Night). Kishimoto tries to get the best out of both worlds, but that's just destined to fail in my opinion.
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2011-07-09, 02:52 | Link #33 | |
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I'm just remembered something weird. During his childhood, Gaara is always dealing with assasins sent by his father. If his father is strong enough to stop Shuukaku, why it's not his father who tried to kill him by himself ? It'll be much more easier, isn't it ? |
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2011-07-09, 12:52 | Link #38 | |
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^On the contrary. I think if Kishimoto focused more on fewer characters, their lives being in danger would have a much bigger impact on me, than a threat concerning lots of characters we know short of nothing about.
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Like you said, Naruto is a lot like DBZ in the storytelling department. And DBZ was not exactly a good example of how you tell an engaging story, or a story at all for that matter. I guess I shouldn't search for that in shonen manga to begin with, though.
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