sola - Episode 12 Discussion / Poll

[kct]

Seriously, this episode topped the rest in terms if insanity.

[Kenji_Chaos]

Spoiler for Sigh..:

and so my prediction on a triple KO came true
well at least Mayuko is now human..and she might end up with Takeshi >.<

[octoberasian]

Originally Posted by Kenji_Chaos

Spoiler for Sigh..:

and so my prediction on a triple KO came true
well at least Mayuko is now human..and she might end up with Takeshi >.<

That is one pairing I would never imagine... o_o

[Kenji_Chaos]

Originally Posted by octoberasian

That is one pairing I would never imagine... o_o

lolz it was just random XD
i think is impossible for it to happen unless

Spoiler for haha:

Either Takeshi turns back to a child or Mayuko turns to an adult according to her current age.

[z3phyr.mp3]

Originally Posted by Kenji_Chaos

Spoiler for Sigh..:

and so my prediction on a triple KO came true
well at least Mayuko is now human..and she might end up with Takeshi >.<

Spoiler for about mayuko:

was it mentioned that mayuko would also turn back into a human... i thought only aono would be the only one to turn back...

[WanderingKnight]

Oh my god, what an episode.

Spoiler for episode 12:

Final twist of the plot... Despite all predictions Matsuri actually wants to kill herself and revive Aono... now THERE'S something I really didn't expect. Cheers, sola, for surprising me again and again.

Originally Posted by Kenji_Chaos

Spoiler:

and so my prediction on a triple KO came true

Spoiler:

Huh? I don't see it ending that way. Have you actually watched the episode? O_o

Final thought:

MAN, I SOOOOO WANT THE FRIGGING OST!

[Icerack]

Spoiler for :

Originally Posted by z3phyr.mp3

was it mentioned that mayuko would also turn back into a human... i thought only aono would be the only one to turn back..

My impression was that only Aono was to be reverted back.

[octoberasian]

Originally Posted by z3phyr.mp3

Spoiler for about mayuko:

was it mentioned that mayuko would also turn back into a human... i thought only aono would be the only one to turn back...

Spoiler:

Yeah, only Aono is turning back to a human. Remember what Takeshi told Matsuri that her life (well, her blood) on that sword and stabbed into another Yaka will turn them back into a human. So, Mayuko will live on as a Yaka, unless by some surprise, Aono takes the sword (if still has Matsuri's blood on it) and stabs Mayuko with it in Ep.13. (Highly doubtful, but knowing the authors, they might surprise us.)

[Kenji_Chaos]

Originally Posted by octoberasian

Spoiler:

Yeah, only Aono is turning back to a human. Remember what Takeshi told Matsuri that her life (well, her blood) on that sword and stabbed into another Yaka will turn them back into a human. So, Mayuko will live on as a Yaka, unless by some surprise, Aono takes the sword (if still has Matsuri's blood on it) and stabs Mayuko with it in Ep.13. (Highly doubtful, but knowing the authors, they might surprise us.)

Spoiler for ops:

opps sorry my bad >.<
just saw many stabbings thats all >.<

[Kaoru Chujo]

Another great episode. Had my attention from start to finish. The only thing that bothered me was...

Spoiler for ep12:

...why and how the film of the sky started up when it did. Who did that? Was it Matsuri? How?

It looks now as if Aono will be left alone, but I look forward to yet another twist in the final episode.

[Mentorian]

Spoiler for Sola 12:

Does anyone notice that in the beginning, Matsuri wanted to kill Aono?

It was only later after she saw "sky" that she decided to stab herself. An oversight, perhaps?

[octoberasian]

Originally Posted by Mentorian

Spoiler for Sola 12:

Does anyone notice that in the beginning, Matsuri wanted to kill Aono?

It was only later after she saw "sky" that she decided to stab herself. An oversight, perhaps?

Spoiler:

I noticed that. Matsuri definitely had intentions of killing Aono. She tried once, then realized it was a fake Aono. Second time, as shown above in that picture, another fake.

I wonder why she changed her mind at that moment of seeing the sky on that theatre screen. It's like something snapped inside of her and probably realized that killing Aono isn't the best way. I guess by making herself and Yorito disappear would be a greater punishment. But, Aono doesn't want to be human nor does she want to live without Yorito. You can even hear Aono scream at the end. I was even more surprised that Yorito was supporting this as he held down Aono for that "final blow" to Aono. By becoming human, there is no way Aono can ever remake Yorito for her selfish needs.

She was also in denial. After she restrained Yorito on the wall, she said "You're my brother... and I'm your sister." (If I translated that right.) So, she was in denial all the way up to the end refusing to believe Yorito is gone from this world already.

And, I think, Aono does deserve it after all that she put Matsuri through. The question now: Would she kill herself again?

[Omniscient]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Spoiler for ep12:

...why and how the film of the sky started up when it did. Who did that? Was it Matsuri? How?

Spoiler:

Sometime during the fight earlier (18:21 mark), an electric current started flowing to the movie projector. I assume that it reached the blue sky part right as Matsuri was approaching the other two.

[wontaek]

What is likely is another twist in the next episode.

Spoiler for matsuri:

I thought, judging from Matsuri's tendency, it would be more likely for her to kill herself to turn Aono back to human. The thing is, Aono would resist that, bitterly, thus the need to weaken and immobilize Aono in order to give her the sword, so maybe that is the reason why she had to try to wound Aono deeply. Still, there is no reason why she might not thought about killing Aono, thus making Yorito disappear, and turning Mayuko back to human, although Mayuko would really be upset that someone had been killled. So many questions, so little information. Still, it was rather clear that Aono was the superior fighter had Yorito not intervened. I wonder how come Aono became so powerful compared to Matsuri. Maybe Aono tried to power up for centuries while Matsuri tried to enjoy life the best she can.

[Skyfall]

Originally Posted by WanderingKnight

Oh my god, what an episode.

Spoiler for episode 12:

Final twist of the plot... Despite all predictions Matsuri actually wants to kill herself and revive Aono... now THERE'S something I really didn't expect. Cheers, sola, for surprising me again and again.

Spoiler:

Ha! Now at least this is one prediction i finally got right! The question is ... what happens now? Does Matsuri have to die in the process? What happens to Yorito? I am not that worried about Aono after (if) she is turned back in to human - i suspect her memory of Yorito/Matsuri will disappear, just like the rest of townspeople, thus enabling her to live on as a normal human, without being bound by the past.

That is, unless we get yet another curveball thrown at us.

[Owaranai Destiny]

Originally Posted by wontaek

What is likely is another twist in the next episode.

Spoiler for matsuri:

I thought, judging from Matsuri's tendency, it would be more likely for her to kill herself to turn Aono back to human. The thing is, Aono would resist that, bitterly, thus the need to weaken and immobilize Aono in order to give her the sword, so maybe that is the reason why she had to try to wound Aono deeply. Still, there is no reason why she might not thought about killing Aono, thus making Yorito disappear, and turning Mayuko back to human, although Mayuko would really be upset that someone had been killled. So many questions, so little information. Still, it was rather clear that Aono was the superior fighter had Yorito not intervened. I wonder how come Aono became so powerful compared to Matsuri. Maybe Aono tried to power up for centuries while Matsuri tried to enjoy life the best she can.

Spoiler:

That's the thought I had in mind as well, though perhaps a clearer explanation for the rationale of her actions in this episode will be provided in the next one, possibly clearing things up for people who don't quite grasp the concept of Matsuri stabbing herself.

Aono probably was stronger in the sense that she had probably desperately wanted to "revive" her beloved brother, thus possibly 'honing' the usage of her Yaka powers. The strange thing is, if creating a Yorito took so much time and energy for her to land into hospital (assuming this is so), how could she create another two more golems of herself with seemingly less effort and less strain?

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by Skyfall

Spoiler:

Ha! Now at least this is one prediction i finally got right! The question is ... what happens now? Does Matsuri have to die in the process? What happens to Yorito? I am not that worried about Aono after (if) she is turned back in to human - i suspect her memory of Yorito/Matsuri will disappear, just like the rest of townspeople, thus enabling her to live on as a normal human, without being bound by the past.

That is, unless we get yet another curveball thrown at us.

Spoiler for Aono:

Maybe if Matsuri successfully turn Aono into human,Koyori will come by to rescue Aono. The series invested lots of time into their relation, and this is a series which didn't to waste much screen time.

[Deathkillz]

turn you dam tables turn!!

Spoiler:

a story of the past and present...i guess with this most if not all of the past is revealed ~ i dont feel much is missing from the situation now and its all down to what happens after...

from the past it seems that it was already quite a complex love triangle going on...while aono is jealous about matsuri being close too yorito, so is the same for matsuri being jealous towards aono and yorito (as they are siblings after all). It was aono who claimed that matsuri will never be left alone again now that she has friends...which is a rather bad move for her ~ after being lonely for so long and to know the comforts of having friends it like a drug...matsuri just doesnt want to be alone anymore so even after aono died this will pushed her into reviving aono even though it is not something that should normally be done...as we see in the flashback aono flips and tries to run out of the cave (and thus getting burnt) trying to deny the truth...matsuri then pulls her back and says that she does not want to be alone...

back to the present the fights were hard and fast...matsuri is clearly no match for aono (deadly paper cuts ) but she carries on with her goal...while it seems to be pretty standard stuff showing matsuri and aono trying to counter each other, the trick came from aono actually cloning herself not once but twice! (and i do not call that cheating by the way "all's fair in love and war" as they say ~)

the end was a realy twist! after pausing to stare at the screen with the projection of the sky matsuri ends up stabbing herself. Is she crazy? no...and the reason to why she did that was because takeshi's sword has the power to sacrifice the life of one yaka to turn another into a human again...so does this mean that by stabbing herself, matsuri intends to turn aono into a human again? (ofc yorito will sure to die...)

but no! from earlier it is clear that matsuri is intended to kill aono...looking at how she stabbed the second clone i for cant one take the "shes only trying to immobilize her" as an excuse...it was a full shot aimed for the body and that would be a killing blow...instead the reason why matsuri stabbed herself instead is a whole new split second idea...she did it after seeing the sky at last ~ maybe this caused her to make up her mind about who to save...while it is a fight to the death and the winner gets to claim yorito as the prize only one can become human...

matsuri sees the sky at long last...her wish is fulfilled so there is no reason to stay anymore...giving up her reason to be with yorito she decides to give aono a second life...while she did intend to become human herself so yorito can keep his promise with her the fact that the promise is fulfulled means that she that promise is finished...and thus we see what has happened happen...

oh boy...what an ep ~ not the most twisted ep ive seen comming from this series but aono has an insane amount of yaka power...i mean making a house and the even some clones...puts a whole new meaning to "unlimited paper cut works" ~ the music was just drop dead gorgeous ~ especially during the final fight...BRING ON THE CONCLUSION!

[JediNight]

I don't know why everyones using spoilers still but...

Spoiler:

God ... Aono has WAAAAAY too many hax powers in this episode. She can not only control paper, but create paper, and then turn that paper into anything she wants. And she can plaster paper on stuff to control it remotely too... I mean wtf. And all Matsuri can do is a weak disintegration shield?

As for the whole sword deal: I assume Mayuko didn't want to become human at the expense of another life, and so that's why they left. If it does end up where Aono is left human, then yeah I really hope she hangs onto life long enough for Koyori to rescue her. Although she did erase everyones memories ... I wonder if Koyori still has hers?

With how much deus ex machina has been tossed around lately, I wonder if the sword wouldn't also bring Yorito back to "human life" as well. It could happen, god knows everything else has been possible so far ;p

Matsuri is a bit of a sensationalist though -- the sword requires a Yaka's blood coated on it. Surely there's a way to make a non-lethal wound to apply the blood on it from. And even the wound she gave herself I'm assuming should be easily healable with her Yaka powers. But it IS Matsuri, and she's had a rather suicidal attitude for the entire series.

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by JediNight

I don't know why everyones using spoilers still but...

Spoiler:

God ... Aono has WAAAAAY too many hax powers in this episode. She can not only control paper, but create paper, and then turn that paper into anything she wants. And she can plaster paper on stuff to control it remotely too... I mean wtf. And all Matsuri can do is a weak disintegration shield?

As for the whole sword deal: I assume Mayuko didn't want to become human at the expense of another life, and so that's why they left. If it does end up where Aono is left human, then yeah I really hope she hangs onto life long enough for Koyori to rescue her. Although she did erase everyones memories ... I wonder if Koyori still has hers?

With how much deus ex machina has been tossed around lately, I wonder if the sword wouldn't also bring Yorito back to "human life" as well. It could happen, god knows everything else has been possible so far ;p

Matsuri is a bit of a sensationalist though -- the sword requires a Yaka's blood coated on it. Surely there's a way to make a non-lethal wound to apply the blood on it from. And even the wound she gave herself I'm assuming should be easily healable with her Yaka powers. But it IS Matsuri, and she's had a rather suicidal attitude for the entire series.

Spoiler for Takeshi's word:

As far as I can comprehend, Takeshi said that The Sword must be imbedded with a life essence of a Yaka and then given/transferred to another yaka who will become human. Mere coating of blood won't do, although I don't think Matsuri needs to stab Aono with the sword, but since Aono won't likely accept the sword, Matsuri might stab Aono in non-life-threatening area in order to transfer Matsuri's life to Aono so Aono can become a human again.