The Q & A of Haruhi Suzumiya

[Akito]

I'm not sure if this had already been asked, but here it goes:

What type is Suzumiya Haruhi? (personality or character 'staple')


Tsundere???

[C.A.]

Originally Posted by Akito

I'm not sure if this had already been asked, but here it goes:

What type is Suzumiya Haruhi? (personality or character 'staple')


Tsundere???

Yep, definitely tsundere. Pretty obvious I think.

[Vexx]

Warp factor Tsundere.... but her own unique twists (as all good characters should have some twist out of the archetype or they'd be boring).

[Akito]

Originally Posted by Vexx

Warp factor Tsundere.... but her own unique twists (as all good characters should have some twist out of the archetype or they'd be boring).

Well I see that Haruhi is so unique that is making the anime so popular.
different from like Shana that is explicitly tsundere.

the kind of tsundere of Haruhi is sometimes not so annoying as Shana´s.

Haruhii suki!!!!!!

[C.A.]

Well in this story, the archetypes are taken to extremes. Like I've never seen any other character that glows with moeness as much as Mikuru or a character that matches Yuki's level of quietness.

Haruhi's tsundere level is taken to such extremes that she totally hates humans in the first place but actually falls in love with one really annoying human lol.

edit: One other extreme archetype would be Tsuruya lol, shes probably the most hyper genki girl ever.

[iamandragon]

Why is everyone comparing Shana with Haruhi? True the art illustrator is the same person, but the authors are different!

[Vexx]

I'm not sure why the authors being the same or different is relative here.... the discussion is over character archetypes. Can Haruhi be considered a derivative of the "tsundere" archetype? She has many elements of the "violent but cute and secretly cuddly" type but she has her own features that may be unique.

[Sushi-Y]

Originally Posted by Vexx

I'm not sure why the authors being the same or different is relative here.... the discussion is over character archetypes. Can Haruhi be considered a derivative of the "tsundere" archetype? She has many elements of the "violent but cute and secretly cuddly" type but she has her own features that may be unique.

Haruhi is a tsundere, she's just a rare case because her dere% is far lower than the usual tsundere character.

Average tsunderes have a good balance of tsun and dere (70/30, 50/50, 40/60, etc.), Haruhi, on the other hand, is more like 90% tsun / 10% dere. As a result, some people might not recognize her dere as dere. But even though her dere is rare, as long as it's there, Haruhi counts as a tsundere.

(In fact, some people probably like Haruhi because she has the 90/10 mix. It makes her dere all the more significant and, er, valuable?)

[Vexx]

(obligatory applause for the absolutely terrible rhyming)

[eVaX]

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y

In fact, some people probably like Haruhi because she has the 90/10 mix. It makes her dere all the more significant and, er, valuable?)

I generally agree with the tsun>dere statement for that reason.

Guess thats why I dislike Belldandy, among other reasons, since she's like a 100% dere with her constant diabetic-inducing sweetness.

But I didn't really like Naru's "I'll roundhouse kick you in the face every single time you look at me" from LH either, even though she had a very high tsun %. Haruhi has that insane/naive tsun persona that's irresistable.

Guess in the end, it is how likeable the character is in overall and not the tsundere combination.

Question: So is there actually a sequel to Mikurun-run in the novel? Or did Haruhi just make a huge fat lie?

[iamandragon]

Haruhi is only dere because of the anime...blame the anime and read the novel...

Anyways when I watch the anime again(which is the 8th time now...played in 'shuffle' mode on my windows media player), Haruhi's doesn't seem tsun to me...she's just very self-centered...

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by eVaX

Question: So is there actually a sequel to Mikurun-run in the novel? Or did Haruhi just make a huge fat lie?

Haruhi is not inclinded to lying... She can lie, but I don't see why she would want to in this case.

After all, Harhi enjoyed making the first movie, and has no reason to not make another. Sure, it causes major issues (lots of closed-space problems... You may or may not see an explanation in future episodes, but it's related to the anomalies in episode 00, like the talking cat or the Mikuru beam.) for Kyon and the gang, but Haruhi doesn't know that.

[M.D. Geist]

Can anybody tell me how haruhi is broadcasted ?!

Is it HD like 720i / p or just normal pal resolution (or even lower)?

Some say these 1280x720 (@120fps) are just upscaled, however they do look better than afks 640x360 ...

Or does it use a resolution like 8xx * 6xx ? *confused*

[Sushi-Y]

Originally Posted by eVaX

Question: So is there actually a sequel to Mikurun-run in the novel? Or did Haruhi just make a huge fat lie?

As of now (volume 8, March in the novel), no, not yet. But knowing Tanigawa Nagaru, he usually follows up on his forshadowings/underplots. Maybe we'll see a new "Asahina Mikuru no Bouken" when the new school year starts.

Originally Posted by iamandragon

Haruhi is only dere because of the anime...blame the anime and read the novel...

Haruhi's dere is more subtle in the novel, but it's there (hence my comment "some people might not recognize her dere as dere").

- The ponytail is a good example.
- Shoushitsu's (vol.4) ending scene at the hospital was another.
- Near the end of Inbou (vol.7), Haruhi gave her hand-made chocolate (cake), which took her all night to make, to Kyon on Valentine day while making a bunch of excuses about it.
- Even the last scene in "Editor In Chief ★ Straight Ahead!" (vol.8), where Haruhi showed an unnatural level of interest for Kyon's "former girlfriend" (she pushed him to the ground and rode on top of him ) are all signs of Haruhi's dere.

Originally Posted by iamandragon

Anyways when I watch the anime again(which is the 8th time now...played in 'shuffle' mode on my windows media player), Haruhi's doesn't seem tsun to me...she's just very self-centered...

A character is tsundere when she (or he) takes on a very harsh and unkind attitude (tsuntsun) towards the main character at first, but over time, begins to show signs of affection and care (deredere) for the main character. There are various tsundere types. Before she cut her hair, Haruhi was a Loner tsundere type. After the SOS-dan was created, Haruhi became an Arrogant/High Pride tsundere.

(Since it sounds like you can read Japanese) Refer to the Japanese wiki entry on tsundere for more info. Notice how Haruhi is listed on the tsundere list as well.

Originally Posted by M.D. Geist

Can anybody tell me how haruhi is broadcasted ?!

Is it HD like 720i / p or just normal pal resolution (or even lower)?

Some say these 1280x720 (@120fps) are just upscaled, however they do look better than afks 640x360 ...

Or does it use a resolution like 8xx * 6xx ? *confused*

Here's a post from a while ago where I noted the difference between the hi-res and the normal version:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=434

The hi-res version isn't HD (it if was, the file size would've been ridiculous). I heard Chiba TV is offering HD contents for their programs, but I don't think that applies to this either.

The important thing is that the hi-res versions do look far better than the regular 704x396 versions, that's all that matters to me.

[Mecha_Trueno]

hey btw, what does the M stand for on their uniform? is it the name of their school or something?... hmm... what is the name of their school anyway

[Sushi-Y]

Originally Posted by RiXeD

*twitch* O_o

Originally Posted by arias

Sush, we really need you to give us, or at least me, a concise summary of Volume 8.. I can't wait forever for the chinese version.............. T__T

Wouldn't it be more fun to find out for yourself?

Anyway, I can provide a short summary, in case people want to know what it's about. I'm going to avoid significant spoilers though, so it won't be a "complete" summary.

Volume 8 (涼宮ハルヒの憤慨, Suzumiya Haruhi no Fungai) is made up of two medium-sized stories,
"Editor In Chief ★ Straight Ahead!" (編集長★一直線！) and "Wandering Shadow" (ワンダリング・シャドウ).

Spoiler for Editor In Chief ★ Straight Ahead!:

This story takes place near the end of the term (Februray~March).

One day, out of the blue, the student council suddenly called Yuki out and declared that unless the Literature club (Yuki's original club) publishes something within the next week, the Literature club will be disbanded, which means the club room (currently taken over by the SOS-dan, which is not recognized by the school) will have to be vacated and returned to the school. It was clear that the student council president was using this as an excuse to get rid of the SOS-dan.

Haruhi finds out, and naturally, declares war on the president, and took up the task of creating a student magazine in order to save the Literature club (and their room). Haruhi gave herself the role of "Editor-in-Chief" and demanded one piece of fiction from each of the SOS-dan members (+ from innocent bystanders like Taniguchi and Tsuruya-san). Through lottery drawing, the topic were distributed like this:

Mikuru: Fairy-tale
Yuki: Fantasy Horror
Koizumi: Mystery
Kyon: Romance

After this, the SOS-dan entered crunch mode, throughout the story, we got to see various interesting "work in progresses" from Mikuru and Yuki. (Mikuru's fairy-tale featured Mikuru's own drawings, but the story made no sense because Haruhi kept on modifying her own historical warfare contents into Mikuru's fairy-tale . Yuki's fantasy horror actually provided a surprising look into her inner thoughts.)

Nobody wants to read Koizumi's mystery, so it wasn't mentioned at all.

Finally, Kyon's romance novel. After much pain and deliberation, Kyon finally wrote a story (well, more like a journal) about a time when he went to watch a movie with a girl back when he was in the 3rd year of junior high. Koizumi, however, noticed that the story had a hidden twist to it through the various "clues" left behind by Kyon. In the end, what Kyon has written isn't a romance story at all (it's not even fiction).

Haruhi, on the other hand, didn't notice the clues and demanded to know who the girl was, which resulted in the horseride scene above.

In the epilogue, they somehow managed to complete and publish the Literature club magazine, and the student council allowed the Literature club to remain (although they still won't admit SOS-dan's existence).

Oh yeah, Kimidori Emiri returned in this story as the student council clerk. We find out in this story that there's more to her than what we thought...

Spoiler for Wandering Shadow:

This story is very similiar to "Mysterious Sign" as it involves the SOS-dan accepting an investigation request from a fellow student.

The story takes place in the lazy days of early March, the final exams are all over, and all that's left for the students is to wait until spring break (and after that, a new school year).

One day, a classmate named Sakanaka-san showed up at the club room and asked Haruhi for help with a certain problem: she thinks there might be a ghost in her neighbourhood.

Apprantely, Sakanaka is a dog-lover herself, and walks her dog (it's name is Rousseau, a West Highland White Terrier. Haruhi calls it "J.J.", for some reason) everyday. But one day, her dog suddenly began avoiding going into a certain area on their walk path. And after asking around, she finds that other dog-owners in the area are having the same problem too: their dogs won't go into that certain area either. On top of that, one owner's dog suddenly became mysteriously sick, and had the vets stumped.

Anyway, Haruhi took the usual preparations (dressing Mikuru up in Miko costume, and asking her to learn some exorcism spells) and set out with the whole gang to investigate.

Upon arriving at the scene, through J.J.'s help, Koizumi finds that the "dog repelling zone" is a circular area originating from the riverside. The gang heads there, and Haruhi got Mikuru to recite the Heart Sutra (which, as pointed out by Kyon, is probably sacriligious, since the Heart Sutra is a Buddhism mantra, while Mikuru's Miko look is representative of the Shinto religion. ).

Soon after that, they encountered a jogger running past them with his dog. Surprised, Haruhi asked him how he got his dog to enter the area. The jogger said his dog didn't want to enter the area at first either, but after forcing the dog into the area a few times, the dog no longer fears the area anymore.

The "mystery" appeared to have been dispelled at this point, but a sudden twist came a few days later, when Sakanaka-san's dog also fell sick, with exactly the same symptoms as the other owner's dog.

The SOS-dan makes a second trip out to Sakanaka-san's place, there, Yuki finds out that the dog is infected with a type of alien mechanical lifeform (virus), which she called a "silicon-based coexisting type information lifeform element" (珪素構造生命体共生型情報生命素子). At this point, Yuki and Kyon began discussing the deeper aspects of how we define "life", as well as about the concept of spirits and souls.

(A memorable moment here is when Kyon asked Yuki whether or not spirits are actually real. Yuki, after showing a troubled look (that only Kyon can tell, of course), made an expression "like someone trying to hold back from laughing at a joke he's about to tell" (that only Kyon can tell, of course), and said

"That's a prohibited subject" ("それは、禁則事項")
(Yuki was copying Mikuru ))

After figuring out the problem, Kyon and Koizumi deliberated a plan with Yuki to "cure" the dogs by removing the virus from them (Yuki wasn't allowed to destroy them because, according to her creator, they are beneficial existences). To do that, Shamisen was required as a vessel to contain the removed viruses. The procedure was a success (which was performed under the guise of aromatherapy, to fool Haruhi and the dog owners), and the dogs became healthy again.

In the "epilogue", there was a discussion between Kyon and Koizumi about the implications of the incident this time. Kyon mentions the possibility that Haruhi's using her power again to cause odd events to occur again, but Koizumi denies that and says Haruhi's powers has not been used for a quite a while now. As a matter of fact, Haruhi has been absolutely stable for the past few months, and that's the problem. Since Haruhi's so stable, it's possible that some aggressive parties might be itching to cause some troubles (again) in order to get a reaction from Suzumiya Haruhi. The alien virus event this time may just be a sign or premonition to that.

This story really revealed more about Haruhi's personality than anything else. Also, we get a feeling that Kyon has really gotten to know Haruhi's personality after being together with her for a whole year.

Also, like the hints provided in the "epilogue", this story felt like a foreshadowing to another serious big event. Now, since Shoushitsu (vol.4) was a serious story about Yuki, and Inbou (vol.7) was a serious story about Mikuru, maybe we'll finally get a serious Haruhi-story in vol.9? ^^;

[Furudanuki]

Question for those who have read the chapter of the novel dealing with the events that take place in episode 10 of the anime.

Spoiler:

Since it turns out that Ryoko and Yuki are the same type of entity, is there any explanation given as to why they are so radically different in their mannerisms, presence or absence of emotions, and the way they interact with the humans around them?

[C.A.]

Originally Posted by Furudanuki

Question for those who have read the chapter of the novel dealing with the events that take place in episode 10 of the anime.

Spoiler:

Since it turns out that Ryoko and Yuki are the same type of entity, is there any explanation given as to why they are so radically different in their mannerisms, presence or absence of emotions, and the way they interact with the humans around them?

I'm not very sure and may not be correct but:

Spoiler:

Yuki was created specifically for one purpose, observation of Haruhi. Though she's supposed to be 'interactive' as well too lol

Ryoko is Yuki's subordinate, she's probably a 'newer model' a MKII or something. They probably created her with more human emotions and placed her in the same class for direct actions and approach towards Haruhi.

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y

Wouldn't it be more fun to find out for yourself?

Anyway, I can provide a short summary, in case people want to know what it's about. I'm going to avoid significant spoilers though, so it won't be a "complete" summary.

Volume 8 (涼宮ハルヒの憤慨, Suzumiya Haruhi no Fungai) is made up of two medium-sized stories,
"Editor In Chief ★ Straight Ahead!" (編集長★一直線！) and "Wandering Shadow" (ワンダリング・シャドウ).

Spoiler for Editor In Chief ★ Straight Ahead!:

This story takes place near the end of the term (Februray~March).

One day, out of the blue, the student council suddenly called Yuki out and declared that unless the Literature club (Yuki's original club) publishes something within the next week, the Literature club will be disbanded, which means the club room (currently taken over by the SOS-dan, which is not recognized by the school) will have to be vacated and returned to the school. It was clear that the student council president was using this as an excuse to get rid of the SOS-dan.

Haruhi finds out, and naturally, declares war on the president, and took up the task of creating a student magazine in order to save the Literature club (and their room). Haruhi gave herself the role of "Editor-in-Chief" and demanded one piece of fiction from each of the SOS-dan members (+ from innocent bystanders like Taniguchi and Tsuruya-san). Through lottery drawing, the topic were distributed like this:

Mikuru: Fairy-tale
Yuki: Fantasy Horror
Koizumi: Mystery
Kyon: Romance

After this, the SOS-dan entered crunch mode, throughout the story, we got to see various interesting "work in progresses" from Mikuru and Yuki. (Mikuru's fairy-tale featured Mikuru's own drawings, but the story made no sense because Haruhi kept on modifying her own historical warfare contents into Mikuru's fairy-tale . Yuki's fantasy horror actually provided a surprising look into her inner thoughts.)

Nobody wants to read Koizumi's mystery, so it wasn't mentioned at all.

Finally, Kyon's romance novel. After much pain and deliberation, Kyon finally wrote a story (well, more like a journal) about a time when he went to watch a movie with a girl back when he was in the 3rd year of junior high. Koizumi, however, noticed that the story had a hidden twist to it through the various "clues" left behind by Kyon. In the end, what Kyon has written isn't a romance story at all (it's not even fiction).

Haruhi, on the other hand, didn't notice the clues and demanded to know who the girl was, which resulted in the horseride scene above.

In the epilogue, they somehow managed to complete and publish the Literature club magazine, and the student council allowed the Literature club to remain (although they still won't admit SOS-dan's existence).

Oh yeah, Kimidori Emiri returned in this story as the student council clerk. We find out in this story that there's more to her than what we thought...

That sounds almost right...I'm still stuck at Editor In Chief though, so I havn't read Wandering Shadow.

[stormy001_M1A2]

Why Haruhi wants horseride Kyon like that? Is she really that jealous?